Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lacrymas]

Remarkable that the guy still ends up being worlds above every other companion in the game. Any sources on that? Did he leak his initial concept somewhere? Might be interesting.

Here you go, from Chris' own words.

 

[Thac0]

Remarkable that the guy still ends up being worlds above every other companion in the game. Any sources on that? Did he leak his initial concept somewhere? Might be interesting.

Here you go, from Chris' own words.

Goddamnit, persons of public interest like him shouldnt be allowed to conceal their posting history by limiting they account. Any way to circumvent that?

Sounds like he gave them the backstory for him and then let them tinker in good faith. But might also him being cherishable in words to not burn any bridges in the industry.

I am such a stan of Avellone, whenever I google a character I particularily liked this fucker shows up as the author. Erritis from Torment:NumaNuma was the last one where that happened.

 

[Grotesque]

...says the one who I skullfucked months and months ago because he's an imbecile (derogatory term intended this time) who likes to fap to snuffs and videos with gore galore.

It's hard to take your claims of skullfucking me seriously as you type furiously on the keyboard, tears streaming down your eyes and your butthold clenched up tight. Whatever floats your boat.

even your imagination and wishful thinking is mediocre at best, the hallmark of every degenerate and gory thrill seeker out there.

 

[Thac0]

...says the one who I skullfucked months and months ago because he's an imbecile (derogatory term intended this time) who likes to fap to snuffs and videos with gore galore.

It's hard to take your claims of skullfucking me seriously as you type furiously on the keyboard, tears streaming down your eyes and your butthold clenched up tight. Whatever floats your boat.

even your imagination and wishful thinking is mediocre at best, the hallmark of every degenerate and gory thrill seeker out there.

Ah the blossoms of young love. Get a room you two, there you can skullfuck eachother all you want.

 

[Lacrymas]

Goddamnit, persons of public interest like him shouldnt be allowed to conceal their posting history by limiting they account. Any way to circumvent that?

Sounds like he gave them the backstory for him and then let them tinker in good faith. But might also him being cherishable in words to not burn any bridges in the industry.

I am such a stan of Avellone, whenever I google a character I particularily liked this fucker shows up as the author. Erritis from Torment:NumaNuma was the last one where that happened.

I really have no idea why they keep butchering his contributions tbh. I guess in the case of PoE1 it's understandable because he wrote like 4 times more than everyone else and they had a word quota, which I also don't understand, especially since the text was so badly edited (read: not at all) it doesn't matter. Not using any of the text he wrote (if he has written anything at all) for D:OS2 seems even weirder.

 

[Grotesque]

Get a room you two, there you can skullfuck eachother all you want.

you get a room with that fuck, imbecile.
thus you will have a chance to get your dick literally eaten along with some french gourmet sauce, all videotaped for other degenerates to fap to.

 

[Incendax]

If all you care about is story then why even play an RPG? There are thousands of visual novels and adventure games that are all about dialogue. It makes sense for some people to hate storyfags because it is so unnecessary. But hate combat and you are playing the wrong genre.

Combat is hardly necessary for an RPG, it's just the most common 'game' element. A good example of a low combat RPG would be Disco Elysium.

 

[Cryomancer]

On VtMB, the dialog and investigation is the best part of the game and the final parts more heavy combat focused, the worst. On New Vegas is possible to convince the final boss to not fight you. Same for Arcanum. I honestly love heavily combat focused RPG's like icewind dale and heavy story focused games like vtmb.

 

[anvi]

If all you care about is story then why even play an RPG? There are thousands of visual novels and adventure games that are all about dialogue. It makes sense for some people to hate storyfags because it is so unnecessary. But hate combat and you are playing the wrong genre.

Combat is hardly necessary for an RPG, it's just the most common 'game' element. A good example of a low combat RPG would be Disco Elysium.

If it doesn't have combat it isn't an RPG. It is an Adventure Game. (or visual novel)

 

[Harthwain]

Combat is hardly necessary for an RPG, it's just the most common 'game' element. A good example of a low combat RPG would be Disco Elysium.

Combat is necessary when violent conflict resolution is required.

In case of Disco Elysium it did work out, because the game is limited in scope and the story is shaped in the way that not much combat is required, but I expect more possibilities for combat in something like Disco Elysium 2: The Shadows of Revachol. The real question then is how the combat will be handled, if there will be more of it. It could be a good reason to incorporate a separate combat layer.

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Then again, it's entirely possible to make combat wholly dialogue-controlled, for consistency and more player-control over the action. The main obstacle in this case would be that it's a lot of extra work for every encounter. On the plus side, this means each encounter has to be meaningful in a way, otherwise it's a waste of resources to write a script for it containing all the ways of dealing with said combat scenario.

 

[Ramnozack]

Had a gut feeling this game would be complete ass, seeing that creature they hired to “””write””” for this game only confirms my suspicions. You all owe ontopoly an apology for your very hurtful mockery!

 

[Ontopoly]

Had a gut feeling this game would be complete ass, seeing that creature they hired to “””write””” for this game only confirms my suspicions. You all owe ontopoly an apology for your very hurtful mockery!

Yeah. Eat my ass you dumb bitches.

 

[AwesomeButton]

"From the sparks that created the RPG Renaissance, we lit our very own dumpsterfire!"

 

[Lacrymas]

Had a gut feeling this game would be complete ass, seeing that creature they hired to “””write””” for this game only confirms my suspicions. You all owe ontopoly an apology for your very hurtful mockery!

Except we've been saying the writing is going to be irredeemable trash from day 1, so this isn't a gotcha moment.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

bg games never had good writing

 

[Lacrymas]

BG1 was ok in the sense it's readable and unobtrusive. BG2 on the other hand assaults you with text and started the romance craze that still plagues us.

 

[Swen]

Had a gut feeling this game would be complete ass, seeing that creature they hired to “””write””” for this game only confirms my suspicions. You all owe ontopoly an apology for your very hurtful mockery!

Yeah. Eat my ass you dumb bitches.

Chill out fags. That soyboy is an ex gamespot employee, Larian hired him to get instant 10/10 ratings from gamespot and co. He has no influence on the real story and important characters.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Had a gut feeling this game would be complete ass, seeing that creature they hired to “””write””” for this game only confirms my suspicions. You all owe ontopoly an apology for your very hurtful mockery!

Yeah. Eat my ass you dumb bitches.

Chill out fags. That soyboy is an ex gamespot employee, Larian hired him to get instant 10/10 ratings from gamespot and co. He has no influence on the real story and important characters.

This is pretty old news my newbie friend. Van Ord hasn't been at Gamespot for more than 5 years. I remember he wrote the BG2 review at Gamespot way back when there was no youtube, facebook or twitter, and the Internet was in black and white.

 

[Grotesque]

bg games never had good writing

BG1 had good writing, brilliant even in some places.

And you're like any other nowadays apologist who thinks that smearing with shit the great classics, can obscure the ineptitude and impotence of his favorite pretenders.

 

[Thac0]

bg games never had good writing

Its servicable and nowhere near as bad as DOS.
BG1 has very little writing in general, and less of it if you dont follow the main quest. The main quest however is pretty good, with the Bhaalspawn and his own awakening to his blood.


BG 2 has more stories packed into it, but the main quest is worse. Irenicus makes for a compelling antagonist, but too much time is spent dicking around gathering gold for petty thieves and scaming Drow.
Pretty much all quests which end in you getting a class fortress in BG 2 are good. Most companion quests are good. Every area tends to have had one stand out quest which has interesting writing. Stuff like the Cult of the Eyeless.
They assigned the different areas to different writers and gave them full creative control and it shows. Some areas are amazing, others are pretty forgettable. It also lead to fun quirks like the minotaur in the caverns behind the inn in BG2. Serves no plot purpose and dies immediatly since he is a humage to on IRL campaign of the designer of that area.

 

[NJClaw]

Divinity: Original Sin 2 is a big improvement over the first game in the writing department (I don't know if thanks to or despite of the absence of actual dialogue lines for the main character). The "ahah big funnies" moments are scarcer and usually relegated to minor interactions and the overarching plot is less retarded (still too retarded, but in a less painful way). If going from D:OS2 to Baldur's Gate 3 they improve as much as they did between the two D:OS games AND understand that they should cut at least 75% of the dialogue lines, I think this can even be good.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Get a room you two, there you can skullfuck eachother all you want.

you get a room with that fuck, imbecile.
thus you will have a chance to get your dick literally eaten along with some french gourmet sauce, all videotaped for other degenerates to fap to.

Bride of Frank anyone? You guys are hitting all the beats

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[Roguey]

and they had a word quota, which I also don't understand,

It drives up localization costs. Not a big deal if you only release a game with English text, but that isn't the case (French, Italian, Germsn, Spanish, Russian, Polish).

 

[Lacrymas]

Remove some of the shitty and pointless lore books to make room for the characters then.

 

[Slaver1]

A better showing for BG3 in that little clip than what they showed before. If they're not going to give us a proper Baldurs Gate the least they can do is ramp up the production values commensurately. Lots of different biomes + polish and some decent lighting shouldn't be too much to ask for. Maybe if the writing somehow isn't a lost cause we could have something to chew on here.

bg games never had good writing

True, we aren't asking for much: just professional, immersive and consistent high fantasy writing. That's why no-one wants Larian to shit the bed in that regard, just stay the course.