Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[NJClaw]

I've yet to see a post where Ontopoly was wrong.

I guess you have not been very active lately, right?

 

[Gyor]

Given enough numbers and resources, everything can be killed by rolling enough 20s in perhaps all D&D editions. That doesn't mean the system is meant to be used this way. It's like saying "if I had 10 queens in a chess match, I could annihilate the opponent", yes you would do that but the system isn't designed to take that into consideration.

Its not really a problem that shows up in video games. But as a DM it can be quite annoying.
Lets say there is a huge melee only beast apporaching a small town. A Tyrranosaurus rex. The party gathers the town guard and leads them into battle. That thing gets slaughtered before it can scale the walls when you actually let the guards do their job and dont fudge their rolls.
Also its a bit strange when you think about how much firepower a city has in 5e. The city of Baldurs Gate probably has enough high level archers and mages to slaughter that hell plane lord anArchers wt has been given a stat block and lead a crusade to conquer the first plane of hell.
But since as a Dm are omnipotent you can straighten those kinks out rahter easily. It just that the system when played Rules as Written leads to some strange situations.

I think Zariel might either be resistant or immune to none magical weapon damage, so those Archers won't be as useful as you think. And Zariel has much larger armies then Baldur's Gate does at her disposal, she has the armies of Avernus.

 

[Strange Fellow]

I've yet to see a post where Ontopoly was wrong.

I guess you have not been very active lately, right?

It just so happens that he is equally retarded, that's all.

 

[Sweeper]

It just so happens that he is equally retarded, that's all.

I'm actually more retarded than Ontopoly.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

2e had the right idea, with abilities being extremely hard to raise, above 20 only for monsters and 25 reserved for divine beings. Even 5e is better than 3.5 in this, despite allowing players to raise their stats, as it copied 2e's cap of 20 for PCs and also had magic items SETTING the stat to a score instead of INCREASING it.

I am in general agreement. I think the only minor change I would make, is that the cap would be raised beyond 20 to whatever racial bonus is. For example, a Forest Gnome with +1 Dex and +2 INT would have a maximum DEX of 21 and INT of 22.

 

[Ontopoly]

I really want to romance that githyanki lady. Wow.

 

[Ontopoly]

Turn based, 4 man party, barrels, 3d over isometric, over world map style and layout, origin characters, animations, character styles, character recruitment layout, exploration style.

No cooldown, no Zimbabwe number inflation and no stat stickie gear. I could't care less for 4 man party and barrels. I don't like DOS2, but DOS2 is critically aclaimed everywhere, including on codex where it appears on top 101 best CRPGs(i an not saying that game jounralists praising it is a signal of quality because anything praised by then is TRASH), but if BG3 becomes DOS2 with a superior ruleset, it will be worth each cent.

As for origins characters, many modules had the option of pre made characters.

This is about how they don't respect BG1 and 2. Not how good the mechanics are themselves. This game has no business calling itself bg3 when they take no inspiration from their own game OVER the BG series at every turn.

 

[eilef]

This is about how they don't respect BG1 and 2. Not how good the mechanics are themselves. This game has no business calling itself bg3 when they take no inspiration from their own game OVER the BG series at every turn.

Game will sell well because it is called BG3. But then again, Larian is a good developer. Who would you give BG3 now instead?

 

[Cryomancer]

Turn based, 4 man party, barrels, 3d over isometric, over world map style and layout, origin characters, animations, character styles, character recruitment layout, exploration style.

No cooldown, no Zimbabwe number inflation and no stat stickie gear. I could't care less for 4 man party and barrels. I don't like DOS2, but DOS2 is critically aclaimed everywhere, including on codex where it appears on top 101 best CRPGs(i an not saying that game jounralists praising it is a signal of quality because anything praised by then is TRASH), but if BG3 becomes DOS2 with a superior ruleset, it will be worth each cent.

As for origins characters, many modules had the option of pre made characters.

This is about how they don't respect BG1 and 2. Not how good the mechanics are themselves. This game has no business calling itself bg3 when they take no inspiration from their own game OVER the BG series at every turn.

I wanna see what happened to the Bhaalspawn descendants but i can only judge the game story after at least knowing a little about it.

 

[Robber Baron]

how they don't respect BG1 and 2

Is there anything Larian could do considering how WotC wanted BG3 integrated with Descent into avernus?

 

[Lacrymas]

Is there anything Larian could do considering how WotC wanted BG3 integrated with Descent into avernus?

Considering how Larian are lording over the lore, I assume they could do a lot.

 

[Ontopoly]

how they don't respect BG1 and 2

Is there anything Larian could do considering how WotC wanted BG3 integrated with Descent into avernus?

They could just call it Baldur's Gate: something mind flayer, something plot relevant if they really had to.

 

[Cryomancer]

Ontopoly, do you hate Siege of Dragonspear with passion too?

Larian could make Arcanum 2 just to provoke him, this is not a serious statement.

 

[Dodo1610]

Nah Swen's plan worked perfectly the countless angry neckbeards are making sure Bg3 stays relevant

 

[vortex]

Larian could make Arcanum 2

Larian should make Arcanum 2. They're the only who could do it now. Or maybe Owlcats.

 

[Darth Canoli]

I miss when he had the "Possibly Retarded" tag, it was so fitting.

I like Village idiot better, after reading any Ontopoly's post, it feels really good to scroll up and read his tags.

 

[Thac0]

I miss when he had the "Possibly Retarded" tag, it was so fitting.

I like Village idiot better, after reading any Ontopoly's post, it feels really good to scroll up and read his tags.

Village idiot + possibly retarded is the best combination for him from a minmax perspective.
Most people I have seen sporting Dumbfuck!!! have been various assortments of vile or assholes (the exception being my buddy Dawkinsfan69). Ontopoly is pure in his quest to defeat Swen in oiled up Sumo combat.
Possibly retarded are usually entertaining, and Village Idiot is very rare.

 

[Ontopoly]

Ontopoly, do you hate Siege of Dragonspear with passion too?

Yes. And I haven't played it to this day. Despite BG series being my favorite series until 2021. But although beam dog is trash, it still seems like they at least tried to make a Baldur's Gate game and weren't just using the name like swen the thief is. Beam dog at least tried to bring new people into the old series with their ee's unlike cult leader swen who barely even acknowledges the series and doesn't acknowledge it at all through his game design

 

[Lilliput McHammersmith]

Ontopoly, do you hate Siege of Dragonspear with passion too?

Yes. And I haven't played it to this day. Despite BG series being my favorite series until 2021. But although beam dog is trash, it still seems like they at least tried to make a Baldur's Gate game and weren't just using the name like swen the thief is. Beam dog at least tried to bring new people into the old series with their ee's unlike cult leader swen who barely even acknowledges the series and doesn't acknowledge it at all through his game design

You’re right, adding self-insert transgender NPCs is way better than making a turn-based D&D video game. Thanks I now formally love Beamdog

 

[Ontopoly]

You’re right, adding self-insert transgender NPCs is way better than making a turn-based D&D video game in a rtwp series while not taking any inspiration from the og series that you had nothing to do with. Thanks, I now formally love Beamdog

 

[underground nymph]

Ontopoly, do you hate Siege of Dragonspear with passion too?

Yes. And I haven't played it to this day. Despite BG series being my favorite series until 2021. But although beam dog is trash, it still seems like they at least tried to make a Baldur's Gate game and weren't just using the name like swen the thief is. Beam dog at least tried to bring new people into the old series with their ee's unlike cult leader swen who barely even acknowledges the series and doesn't acknowledge it at all through his game design

You really are an idiot. Now it’s official.

 

[Lilliput McHammersmith]

You’re right, adding self-insert transgender NPCs is way better than making a turn-based D&D video game in a rtwp series while not taking any inspiration from the og series that you had nothing to do with. Thanks, I now formally love Beamdog

Hahahaha and I also love it that Beamdog changed the rules for Baldur’s Gate 1 and did a bunch of “balancing” in a 20 year old single player game.

Seriously Beamdog, how can a Mind Flayer eat the brains of a Skeleton. It doesn’t even make sense.

Oh and I really love that they forced the old games off the storefront so that you can only buy the “enhanced” editions.

 

[Ontopoly]

Oh and I really love that they forced the old games off the storefront so that you can only buy the “enhanced” editions.

The old ones are included with them at least. I already said I hate them and that I will never play their games. Not sure why you keep acting like I'm praising them or saying they can't do no wrong.

The weirdest part is you're acting like I love them when you're the one who bought their game and supported them. I don't support them, never will. You're one of those people that shits on the game then buys them anyways. No passion

 

[Apostle Hand]

Siege Of Dragonspear was really good. You should play it Ontopoly.

#justsaying

 

[Lilliput McHammersmith]

Oh and I really love that they forced the old games off the storefront so that you can only buy the “enhanced” editions.

The old ones are included with them at least. I already said I hate them and that I will never play their games. Not sure why you keep acting like I'm praising them or saying they can't do no wrong.

The weirdest part is you're acting like I love them when you're the one who bought their game and supported them. I don't support them. You're one of those people that shits on the game then buys them anyways. No passion

The old ones are only included on GOG, not any other storefront where they’re sold.

Also who said that I bought them? I don’t remember saying that.

I did buy them, however, but that was before I knew that they had changed the rules for so many things in both games, which is retarded.

And no, the retarded thing you said was “Larian is worse than Beamdog even though we have no idea what BG3 will be yet, but they are worse than the company who changed rules, items, dialogues, and created an SJW campaign, and re-balanced a bunch stuff, while also making it so that the originals are no longer for sale, meaning that if you do want the originals you have to buy the enhanced edition”