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I'm completely ignorant of what D&D is and so I'll run my mouth.

You'd surprised since Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson were both Christians. Staunchly at that. Let me show you how wrong you are with the TSR Code of Ethics circa 1984.

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I draw your attention to point 10. Nudity in any form is prohibited. Suggestive and salacious scenes are unacceptale.

Point 11. Illicit sex relations are not to be portrayed or discussed and sexual abnormalities are unacceptable.

Point 12. Rape or seduction are never to be portrayed or discussed.

Notice point 13. It clearly says Sex perversion or any inference to same is strictly forbidden.

So you just lied about what is D&D. Four of 13 points says that you're a goddamn liar.

Did you have anything intelligent to add that actually pertains to the history of the D&D game?
Dude look at the manuals. And also Forgotten realms was created by Ed Greenwood.
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Belial and Fierna from the manual of 3.5 Book of Vile darkness.
They are father and daughter and sex partners.
The document you put is no more followed from a long time.
There is even worse stuff in all the manual scattered around the various edition and don't let me talk about the novels.
Ah yes. 3.5 by WotC, people completely unrelated to D&D other than buying the rights to the name. It's not real D&D.

Greenwood is a degenerate and his setting is equally degenerate. It can be effectively divorced from the ruleset.
 

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The problem is that the writers have no experience with any hardship beyond my latte is cold. They haven't been in danger or survived anything worse than a broken fingernail.
unlike you, grandpa, whose biggest hardships are struggling with self-checkout or running out of werther’s originals
 

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Paladins and Priests are often not Chaste.

Speaking of which... Paladins from AD&D 1E and where they first appeared as a core class.

Law and good deeds are the meat and drink of paladins. If they ever knowingly perform an act which is chaotic in nature, they must seek a high level (7th or above) cleric of lawful good alignment, confess their sin, and do penance as prescribed by the cleric. If a paladin should ever knowingly and willingly perform an evil act, he or she loses the status of paladinhood immediately and irrevocably. All benefits are then lost, and no deed or magic can restore the character to paladinhood; he or she is everafter a fighter.

Chaotic is selfishness as per the alignment description. Being a whore is a sin since you are pursuing pleasure of yourself over being selfless and the good of the whole.

Lawful Good: While as strict in their prosecution of law and order, characters of lawful good alignment follow these precepts to improve the common weal. Certain freedoms must, of course, be sacrificed in order to bring order; but truth is of highest value, and life and beauty of great importance. The benefits of this society are to be brought to all.

Did you have anything pertinent to the discussion at hand?
 

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The problem is that the writers have no experience with any hardship beyond my latte is cold. They haven't been in danger or survived anything worse than a broken fingernail.
unlike you, grandpa, whose biggest hardships are struggling with self-checkout or running out of werther’s originals

You sound upset. Do you need your bottle?
 

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Throughout the game I feel like I've run into a fair share of equipment that gives you various bonuses while drunk. Has anyone tried a drunk brawler archetype Monk playthrough yet?
 

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How is pursuing casual sex with numerous partners not go against Paladins and good clerics. As pointed out above its a selfish and hedonistic act only concerned with acquiring pleasure.
 

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D&D today: intercourse with fiends in hell, making friends with mindflayers, allowing drow to live without slaying them on sight. No moral panic.
Not only no moral panic, but cries "We should celebrate diversity!"
"especially later fights can become too much about winning initiative and nuking the enemy before they nuke you"

wow crazy deep tactical goodness!
You know the paradox - "classics" are those works which everybody praises, but nobody reads.
 

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Yes, though, the prostitutes are all displayed as overly horny. This, again, is a form of either horrible tone-deafness or a deliberate attempt by writers to portray the sex industry in a certain way. Studies consistently show that around 95% of actual prostituted women in real life want to leave but are unable to do so due to either physical force or economic coercion, and without wanting to get too personal or into a debate about it, I'm very painfully aware of this fact from the experiences of several people very close to me.
W-what?
Bb-but I thought that a woman selling her body as a prostitute or in porn was EMPOWERING and a HUGE blow to the patriarchy!
So, a retarded game that deals with mature topics in a retarded manner.
 

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Yes, though, the prostitutes are all displayed as overly horny. This, again, is a form of either horrible tone-deafness or a deliberate attempt by writers to portray the sex industry in a certain way. Studies consistently show that around 95% of actual prostituted women in real life want to leave but are unable to do so due to either physical force or economic coercion, and without wanting to get too personal or into a debate about it, I'm very painfully aware of this fact from the experiences of several people very close to me.
W-what?
Bb-but I thought that a woman selling her body as a prostitute or in porn was EMPOWERING and a HUGE blow to the patriarchy!
So, a retarded game that deals with mature topics in a retarded manner.
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How is pursuing casual sex with numerous partners not go against Paladins and good clerics. As pointed out above its a selfish and hedonistic act only concerned with acquiring pleasure.
I agree, brother.
A paladin should be above such base desires, but falling in love or wanting to "get it on" are perfectly human desires.
A cleric should be more concerned about his faith rather than fucking, regardless of alignment.
 

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Yes, though, the prostitutes are all displayed as overly horny. This, again, is a form of either horrible tone-deafness or a deliberate attempt by writers to portray the sex industry in a certain way. Studies consistently show that around 95% of actual prostituted women in real life want to leave but are unable to do so due to either physical force or economic coercion, and without wanting to get too personal or into a debate about it, I'm very painfully aware of this fact from the experiences of several people very close to me.
W-what?
Bb-but I thought that a woman selling her body as a prostitute or in porn was EMPOWERING and a HUGE blow to the patriarchy!
So, a retarded game that deals with mature topics in a retarded manner.
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The problem is that the writers have no experience with any hardship beyond my latte is cold. They haven't been in danger or survived anything worse than a broken fingernail.
unlike you, grandpa, whose biggest hardships are struggling with self-checkout or running out of werther’s originals

You sound upset. Do you need your bottle?
The problem is, no one is concerned. Everyone who has posted in this topic like the game. And because you cannot stand the idea of people enjoying this game, you are filled with hate, which is really too bad. Gigax underwent significant improvements in recent years. Even while I might agree with you that the fifth edition of the lore is not the best, it doesn't really matter if we disagree because my point still stands. Greenwood was quite firm about the things I mentioned, so if you have complaints, go to him or write him a letter. Baldur's gate is in the Forgotten Realms and Greenwood is the setting creator.

I find amusing you people feel the need to come whining in a thread of a game you dislike. We love it and you can't suffer that.
People actually enjoy having sex, you know? You have no right to criticize someone because their choices and way of life are entirely their own. Regardless, the game is a huge success despite your dislike of it.
But keep crying nobody cares.
:smug:

Finally: Seethe, Cope, etc.
 

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Codexers look at sixty dollar price tag for kotc2: lol pogz…miss me wit dat shieeet muthafugga

Codexers look at bg3: thank you daddy I will spend 150 on double deluxe edition for my cuck mindflayer bestiality fantasies

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Ouch.

I'm pretty sure KotC2 is a passion project and has its moments but to put that even in a competition with a behemoth like BG3 ... retarded.
It's the best D&D CRPG ever made, the most complete implementation of the 3.5 ruleset ever put to the computer. It has grapple attacks, disarming attacks, trip attacks, shove and push and pull, your fighters actually become utility characters who can do more than just attack. Systems-wise it is the PERFECT tabletop D&D 3.5 simulator.

The campaign is so hardcore it will filter 90% of players though. To be fair, especially later fights can become too much about winning initiative and nuking the enemy before they nuke you, but the whole second level of the dungeon was the most intense and tight dungeon crawling experience I ever had.

This game is worth every penny. It's a masterpiece of game design. For hardcore CRPG players, this is leagues above the casual-friendly BG3.

KotC2 is a grognard's game.

"especially later fights can become too much about winning initiative and nuking the enemy before they nuke you"

wow crazy deep tactical goodness!

:swen:

It's "monocled fun", you know?
 

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I didn't like the brothel when you get past the first gate guards btw. First time in the game where I actually felt like an ideology was being forced on me by the writers, given that all your dialogue options are "I love this place! Sex work is real work! Prostitution is great! There is no such thing as exploitation of women!". Also lol @ half the brothel patrons being female, modern (presumably male) game writers love doing that even though it simply bears no resemblance to reality and is actually harder to believe than the existence of dragons and shit.

Now this is bollocks. I was worried about how they handle a brothel and this is as bad as it can get.
The brothel in question is dedicated to Sharess, the goddess of Sensual pleasure. Is it normal that there is not explotation there again? This is another case of misunderstanding by those that don't know the realms or the lore.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Sharess
I'm not a FR lore expert, but I'm giving you my impression as someone who just reached it in the game. The problems are:
- The player character has literally no way to express anything other than a positive opinion. This is despite the fact that, before you enter the place, a woman outside tells you there's a lot of debate around it. So in-universe, people are concerned, and yet you can't voice any of that concern yourself.

- One of the prostitutes inside mentions the exchange of money. Money for sex is inherently exploitative, IMO. You might disagree, but given that it's an RPG, I'd hope both of us would be able to express our opinions through our characters. If they don't want to approach this issue seriously, they shouldn't put something this sensitive in the game.

- This comes right after you meet some of the most impoverished people in the game, the refugees. Again, it's tone deafness to have "here's a massive group of homeless, destitute women" and "here's a brothel two meters away" and not think about the grim way those two things would connect IRL.

- Again, half the patrons are female. It's all larger-than-life fantasy, I know, and you don't typically find female raiders, slavers and thugs in real life either. But this is something I notice in a lot of modern games and it's always jarring in how little resemblance it bears to reality. It's also something I keep noticing over and over again in modern fiction, and it feels like propaganda to me, to whitewash the image of the sex industry and try to absolve the men who take part.

Hopefully if you've seen my prior posts in the thread, you know that I'm not a culture warrior, I can handle depictions of things I might not like in media, and I do like the game overall. This is one issue that's very serious to me personally though for a number of reasons and I was greatly disappointed in the flippant, tone-deaf, casual depiction it received in a game that's previously been much better than that, alongside the total lack of ways to roleplay your character.

You didn't answer the only pertinent question: Can we kill everyone inside?
 

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It had wacky stuff good memoral moments but overall was pretty straightforward.
Really, m'queen?
Like the bear sex? I heard it is INCREDIBLY IMMERSIVE AND CINEMATIC! 10/10!
Literally not one of the companions in the game is memorable as a character, just typical party member with stupid backstory and motivations.
5E was a mistake.

She's a woman and confuses sex with characterization.
Or maybe i know the lore unlike many here.

Or maybe we all realize that Ed Greenwood is a pervert and lost his marbles 20 years ago. Of course you would like perverts. It is as I said. You confuse sex with characterization just like Ed does.

Ed never was that good of a writer. What made FR explode in AD&D 2E was other writers using it as a setting. All of his characters sucked ass as they were Gary Stues or Mary Sues.
Thank you for sharing your opinion, which unfortunately is of little value. For this reason, I will place you in ignore as there is no discussion when there is no will to debate and argue and instead bring Twitter talk. Thank you for trying; unfortunately, your opinion is of no value to me, so there is no need for me to read it. Keep coping.
Twitter talk? Twitter is not half as autistic as Codex! Go back to Resetera if this bothers you!
Codex is resetera. But this is not an argument for this thread lunatics are lunatics wich side they swing is not relevant.
If the Codex was retardera every person that admitted to buying this shit would be banned.
 
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It had wacky stuff good memoral moments but overall was pretty straightforward.
Really, m'queen?
Like the bear sex? I heard it is INCREDIBLY IMMERSIVE AND CINEMATIC! 10/10!
Literally not one of the companions in the game is memorable as a character, just typical party member with stupid backstory and motivations.
5E was a mistake.

She's a woman and confuses sex with characterization.
Or maybe i know the lore unlike many here.

Or maybe we all realize that Ed Greenwood is a pervert and lost his marbles 20 years ago. Of course you would like perverts. It is as I said. You confuse sex with characterization just like Ed does.

Ed never was that good of a writer. What made FR explode in AD&D 2E was other writers using it as a setting. All of his characters sucked ass as they were Gary Stues or Mary Sues.
Thank you for sharing your opinion, which unfortunately is of little value. For this reason, I will place you in ignore as there is no discussion when there is no will to debate and argue and instead bring Twitter talk. Thank you for trying; unfortunately, your opinion is of no value to me, so there is no need for me to read it. Keep coping.
Twitter talk? Twitter is not half as autistic as Codex! Go back to Resetera if this bothers you!
Codex is resetera. But this is not an argument for this thread lunatics are lunatics wich side they swing is not relevant.
If the Codex was retardera every person that admitted to buying this shit would be banned.
Is a mirror Resetera bans you for sneezing codex allows its user to dump and trash everything. Is the same thing but in reverse.
 

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D&D back in the day: Adventuring parties smiting demons and devils, killing orcs and saving villagers. Moral panic.

D&D today: intercourse with fiends in hell, making friends with mindflayers, allowing drow to live without slaying them on sight. No moral panic.

:hmmm:
Gary Gygax D&D: fantasy dressing for tabletop pnp

D&D 2023: theatre kid ERP session
 

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People fail to realize the old games were actually watered down by mature content by design. But the setting is not. They cry about degeneracy, but they show ignorance. Larian did only the sensitive thing by implementing a game with the content, as the old creator of the setting meant. Is it just that Interplay and Bioware at the time were pretty selective with the content in order to deliver a teen-friendly experience? So yes, when you complain about degeneracy, you clearly have no clue what there is and was in Forgotten Realms or D&D, and you are projecting your own false perception of how it was.



The game is pretty good; it has more choice, consequences, and character agency than any RPG could only dream about. It looks pretty and plays well; the only complaint I have is the UI. But you can get used to it once you learn how it works.
Also again why are you here?
We get it you don't like the game but no ammount of whining, crying and pointing finger will make us like less the game. All you will obtain is being laughting stock.

Wtf are you talking about? D&D is what you make it. There is no inherent degeneracy in the lore. In fact if you think about it, wouldn't some of these Gods and their clerics and paladins be against degeneracy and fags and trans. Or that doesn't fit your head cannon faggot?
Haem no.

"As to sexual attitudes in the Realms, there is indeed local prejudice against individuals who have “different” or “unusual” sexuality—bigotry and a dislike of change and “what’s not usual” is everywhere and is (unfortunately) part of being human.
Specific religions often invoke temporary abstinence as punishments for transgressions against the creed of the faith, but other matters sexual are usually ignored in doctrine, rather than policed by doctrine (consecration or baptism of willing, old-enough-to-choose offspring being an important exception; this is urged and promoted by almost all Faerûnian faiths).
Yet in a polytheistic setting in which everyone “believes in” and worships (in some fashion, even if it’s only “Here’s a prayer, now please don’t bother me today”) ALL of the gods, clergy avoid endorsing discrimination against someone because of sex. Which doesn’t mean they won’t severely speak to someone they think does something inappropriate, like trying to fornicate with grieving individuals at a funeral, or anyone forcing their attentions on someone except a recipient receiving such attentions as part of a ritual to Loviatar or Sharess or Sune or Shiallia the recipient has agreed beforehand to take part in, and knows what this will mean [[in other words, self-chosen submission is acceptable, but being on the receiving end of forced and unwanted sex is not]].
Shiallia wants all creatures to reproduce and multiply, which means fertile females should engage in sex with partners of their choice, regardless of their marital state (and all devout worshippers of the goddess should help in the feeding and rearing of said offspring); it does NOT mean those fertile females have to accept the advances of every passing creature.
In general, “anything goes” in the wilderness, the settled status quo is most valued (and adhered to) in small villages and towns, and as places get larger and have more contact with the wider Realms (market towns, being on caravan routes), the more tolerant and varied sexuality can be found and is tolerated/ignored. Bisexual characters exist in the Realms and always have done, as have “out” homosexual characters, May/December partnerships, polygamy, and just about everything else.

Yet matters sexual are seldom the “big deal” in the Realms that it is in any real-world area dominated by one faith, where clerics of that faith presume to tell others “how to behave.” The polytheistic nature of the Realms is one reason for this, and another is the D&D® game itself, that with its array of sentient races, presents what some would call “bestiality” or other terms for “coupling with other races” as a fait accompli (otherwise, there would be no “half-elves” or “half-orcs”).

Yes, this has all been discussed before, but that’s okay. The computerized search-fu in the Keep is frail, but the minds of its scribes are sharp, quick, and apt to dredge up old lines from older scrolls when the need arises.
The beauty of fantasy roleplaying, and the Realms, is that anyone playing in it can include or leave out or ignore or gloss over what they want to or are most comfortable with. The darkness creeps in when one player or group tries to impose their preferences on everyone else.

Some festhalls, brothels, and clubs signal whom or what they cater to, but most don’t; locals just “know” (and tavernmasters and innkeepers will discreetly answer queries as to “where to go” without misleading or reacting with hostility to such questions; correctly guiding guests without making judgments is just part of their livelihood). Carved signboards are the most common advertisement (depicting entwined, kissing couples or triads or quartets, usually in no more detail than heads, arms, shoulders, and bared breasts, with the participants indicating what “goes” inside: for example, two men together, or a lizard man and a human female, with a free hand raised to hold a glass if it’s also a drinking club, or holding a hand of cards or a platter of food to indicate a gambling establishment or that food is served, and so on)."

Ed Greenwood.

I had to skim this because you wrote an entire novel but the fact there are multiple gods adds to my points. Wouldn't SOME of the gods and their paladins be against degeneracy? Some of these gods are about ORDER which obviously goes against a lot of this.

Why is there no option to play an anti fag and anti trans path? Because that would have faggots and degenerates all in their feels.
Simply because sex is not considered a sin in D&D. Even the most Lawful Gods don't regulate matters when it comes to sex. The good Christian D&D is a mental construct of some people who do self-insert into it.

There are Gods based on order no? Would a God of order support you fucking everything in sight or would they support sex within the constructs of marriage and reproducing? Some of you D&D nerds are bunch of creepy weirdos. Like D&D was about questing and adventuring, now it's taking your creepy ass kinks and making that a major part. The fact you want to resist any religion/faction/ect being anti degenerate shows how pathetic you are. That's not realistic in any setting for their to be no groups against that especially one based on medieval Europe. I like how you threw in the only people who would be against it are simple minded/backwards villagers. Lol at the LGBTQ weirdos
Order does not imply be against sex , you mix up order with Christian principles, and D&D was always a little degenerate to begin with. Only individuals who enjoy inserting their own values into fictional settings are likely to be thinking that. Sexual activity is not inherently sinful in D&D and is a natural aspect of both religious and ordinary life. Again, those who complain about degeneracy in D&D have no idea what they're talking about. D&D also offers prestige classes that use sex as a technique of manipulation and that not even in fifth edition. D&D is not based as a whole in Medieval Europe even forgotten realms have variety on the setting depending where you are. D&D is not an historical game.
Again answering to Lemming sex is not considered a Sin in the D&D universe.
Do STDs not exist in this world? Unplanned pregnancies? Of course having sex all the time with lots of partners is against order. Not to mention the distraction it would cause for holy paladins and priests.
Paladins and Priests are often not Chaste.
In 1e, they were chaste. They also had to give up all their loot to charity hence why it any Gnome is smart enough to stay away from that profession.
 
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People fail to realize the old games were actually watered down by mature content by design. But the setting is not. They cry about degeneracy, but they show ignorance. Larian did only the sensitive thing by implementing a game with the content, as the old creator of the setting meant. Is it just that Interplay and Bioware at the time were pretty selective with the content in order to deliver a teen-friendly experience? So yes, when you complain about degeneracy, you clearly have no clue what there is and was in Forgotten Realms or D&D, and you are projecting your own false perception of how it was.



The game is pretty good; it has more choice, consequences, and character agency than any RPG could only dream about. It looks pretty and plays well; the only complaint I have is the UI. But you can get used to it once you learn how it works.
Also again why are you here?
We get it you don't like the game but no ammount of whining, crying and pointing finger will make us like less the game. All you will obtain is being laughting stock.

Wtf are you talking about? D&D is what you make it. There is no inherent degeneracy in the lore. In fact if you think about it, wouldn't some of these Gods and their clerics and paladins be against degeneracy and fags and trans. Or that doesn't fit your head cannon faggot?
Haem no.

"As to sexual attitudes in the Realms, there is indeed local prejudice against individuals who have “different” or “unusual” sexuality—bigotry and a dislike of change and “what’s not usual” is everywhere and is (unfortunately) part of being human.
Specific religions often invoke temporary abstinence as punishments for transgressions against the creed of the faith, but other matters sexual are usually ignored in doctrine, rather than policed by doctrine (consecration or baptism of willing, old-enough-to-choose offspring being an important exception; this is urged and promoted by almost all Faerûnian faiths).
Yet in a polytheistic setting in which everyone “believes in” and worships (in some fashion, even if it’s only “Here’s a prayer, now please don’t bother me today”) ALL of the gods, clergy avoid endorsing discrimination against someone because of sex. Which doesn’t mean they won’t severely speak to someone they think does something inappropriate, like trying to fornicate with grieving individuals at a funeral, or anyone forcing their attentions on someone except a recipient receiving such attentions as part of a ritual to Loviatar or Sharess or Sune or Shiallia the recipient has agreed beforehand to take part in, and knows what this will mean [[in other words, self-chosen submission is acceptable, but being on the receiving end of forced and unwanted sex is not]].
Shiallia wants all creatures to reproduce and multiply, which means fertile females should engage in sex with partners of their choice, regardless of their marital state (and all devout worshippers of the goddess should help in the feeding and rearing of said offspring); it does NOT mean those fertile females have to accept the advances of every passing creature.
In general, “anything goes” in the wilderness, the settled status quo is most valued (and adhered to) in small villages and towns, and as places get larger and have more contact with the wider Realms (market towns, being on caravan routes), the more tolerant and varied sexuality can be found and is tolerated/ignored. Bisexual characters exist in the Realms and always have done, as have “out” homosexual characters, May/December partnerships, polygamy, and just about everything else.

Yet matters sexual are seldom the “big deal” in the Realms that it is in any real-world area dominated by one faith, where clerics of that faith presume to tell others “how to behave.” The polytheistic nature of the Realms is one reason for this, and another is the D&D® game itself, that with its array of sentient races, presents what some would call “bestiality” or other terms for “coupling with other races” as a fait accompli (otherwise, there would be no “half-elves” or “half-orcs”).

Yes, this has all been discussed before, but that’s okay. The computerized search-fu in the Keep is frail, but the minds of its scribes are sharp, quick, and apt to dredge up old lines from older scrolls when the need arises.
The beauty of fantasy roleplaying, and the Realms, is that anyone playing in it can include or leave out or ignore or gloss over what they want to or are most comfortable with. The darkness creeps in when one player or group tries to impose their preferences on everyone else.

Some festhalls, brothels, and clubs signal whom or what they cater to, but most don’t; locals just “know” (and tavernmasters and innkeepers will discreetly answer queries as to “where to go” without misleading or reacting with hostility to such questions; correctly guiding guests without making judgments is just part of their livelihood). Carved signboards are the most common advertisement (depicting entwined, kissing couples or triads or quartets, usually in no more detail than heads, arms, shoulders, and bared breasts, with the participants indicating what “goes” inside: for example, two men together, or a lizard man and a human female, with a free hand raised to hold a glass if it’s also a drinking club, or holding a hand of cards or a platter of food to indicate a gambling establishment or that food is served, and so on)."

Ed Greenwood.

I had to skim this because you wrote an entire novel but the fact there are multiple gods adds to my points. Wouldn't SOME of the gods and their paladins be against degeneracy? Some of these gods are about ORDER which obviously goes against a lot of this.

Why is there no option to play an anti fag and anti trans path? Because that would have faggots and degenerates all in their feels.
Simply because sex is not considered a sin in D&D. Even the most Lawful Gods don't regulate matters when it comes to sex. The good Christian D&D is a mental construct of some people who do self-insert into it.

There are Gods based on order no? Would a God of order support you fucking everything in sight or would they support sex within the constructs of marriage and reproducing? Some of you D&D nerds are bunch of creepy weirdos. Like D&D was about questing and adventuring, now it's taking your creepy ass kinks and making that a major part. The fact you want to resist any religion/faction/ect being anti degenerate shows how pathetic you are. That's not realistic in any setting for their to be no groups against that especially one based on medieval Europe. I like how you threw in the only people who would be against it are simple minded/backwards villagers. Lol at the LGBTQ weirdos
Order does not imply be against sex , you mix up order with Christian principles, and D&D was always a little degenerate to begin with. Only individuals who enjoy inserting their own values into fictional settings are likely to be thinking that. Sexual activity is not inherently sinful in D&D and is a natural aspect of both religious and ordinary life. Again, those who complain about degeneracy in D&D have no idea what they're talking about. D&D also offers prestige classes that use sex as a technique of manipulation and that not even in fifth edition. D&D is not based as a whole in Medieval Europe even forgotten realms have variety on the setting depending where you are. D&D is not an historical game.
Again answering to Lemming sex is not considered a Sin in the D&D universe.
Do STDs not exist in this world? Unplanned pregnancies? Of course having sex all the time with lots of partners is against order. Not to mention the distraction it would cause for holy paladins and priests.
Paladins and Priests are often not Chaste.
In 1e, they were chaste. They also had to give up all their loot to charity hence why it any Gnome is smart enough to stay away from that profession.
1e is long dead.
 

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Throughout the game I feel like I've run into a fair share of equipment that gives you various bonuses while drunk. Has anyone tried a drunk brawler archetype Monk playthrough yet?
was thinking the same thing
would need to somehow spawn all these items to see if they synergize
 

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