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Rhobar121

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Creche no matter what you do you will have to fight everyone
Actually, after fighting the Gith Inquisitor you can go grab Blood of Lathander and teleport outside from there, sparing dozens of innocent Gith. Game doesn't acknowledge that, but it is THE moral choice.
You cant use "innocent" and "Gith" next to each other
 

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By trying to redeem evil people who you see may have a chance at redemption like a Paladin might instead of just killing them outright.
No, a Paladin does no redeeming himself. A Paladin is only expected to spare people that are displaying honest intent to turn their life around. If there is even an inch of doubt or dishonesty present, a Paladin might actually allow evil to fester a few years down the road by letting them go. What you are talking about is being 'lawful stupid' instead of 'lawful good', Paladins aren't choirboys.

Even though I'm not the biggest fan of 'Wrath of the Righteous', it does contain one of my most favorite conversations in any RPG's. After a local congregation of Shelyn (goddess of art, love, etc...) is wiped out by cultists, you can find the leader of the cultists still at the place of slaughter. One of your party members is a cleric of Shelyn and, once you've cornered him, wants to execute the cultist leader. However this cultist mockingly states that he wants to redeem himself, and that Shelyn's teaching dictate that, no matter how small the chance, the goddess requires the cleric to let him repent so that he might create beautiful art. The cleric is livid and has a crisis of faith, but as a Paladin you can comfort him, causing him to not steer away from his faith and forgiving the cultist leader. If you're able to persuade the cleric to forgive the cultist leader, you get the dialogue option as a Paladin to state 'But I'm not of Shelyn, so in the name of my god I sentence you to death, executed by my hand. Immediately'.

Yes, you have 'Paladins of Shelyn', but both Pathfinder games make it a point to show how useless they are. The personification of 'lawful stupid'.
Nah. Paladins are all pushovers. If it weren't the case, we Gnomes wouldn't be doing so well.
 

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We truly live in a post bear sex world. All developers and publishers will have to adjust to the new normal.
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Witcher 4 - you can rape female monsters!
Mass Effect 5 - you can have sex with all party members at once!
Elder Scrolls VI - interactive porn movie, CE comes with a fleshlight!
It was always the way it was going to go since they put romance in bg2. Heck since they drew chainmail bikini sloots on oldfag rpg boxes.
 

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Creche no matter what you do you will have to fight everyone
Actually, after fighting the Gith Inquisitor you can go grab Blood of Lathander and teleport outside from there, sparing dozens of innocent Gith. Game doesn't acknowledge that, but it is THE moral choice.
If you teleport from there, shouldn't the big gun destroy the whole creche? I didn't try going outside in my playthrough, but when I disarmed the trap, the portal to outside disappeared, so I was under the impression you either disarm the gun and stay inside the creche, or teleport outside and let everything blow up
 

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I wonder how much sick stuff Bioware will add to Dreadwolf to have at least a minimal chance with Swen.
 

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We truly live in a post bear sex world. All developers and publishers will have to adjust to the new normal.
View attachment 40197
Witcher 4 - you can rape female monsters!
Mass Effect 5 - you can have sex with all party members at once!
Elder Scrolls VI - interactive porn movie, CE comes with a fleshlight!
It was always the way it was going since they put romance in bg2. Heck since they drew chainmail bikini sloots on oldfag rpg boxes.
So yeah, there's these black elves, and they are ruled by women who enslave the men and have harems of breeding males they abuse for sex haha.
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I wonder what the lore reason is for not being able to resurrect any other outside the party. Like for example Jaheira when she is not with you, or Minsc from his fight if you kill him (like I did by accident).
 

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The encounter design is pretty alright, but, so far, a tad too easy (playing on Tactician) - which is a pity considering the detailed underlying system. I had to retry a few encounters, but it's still not as engaging as Knights of the Chalice


I'll stick with what I said but let me rephrase:
So far, it seems to me that some encounters can be cheesed very easily once you understand how environmental elements can be transformed into damage (or even instant-death if you throw someone off a cliff). There is a lot of stuff that you can do there and to me, it feels like the difficulty of the enemy encounter is not properly balanced with the damage output your group can cause by just looking around the room. Maybe that gets better, I don't know. But that's my impression so far.

In comparison, think of the underground orc fort in KotC. If you go in there underprepared you gotta pull out all the stops or the slavemasters will wipe the floor with you. Same with undead encounters.
What you can do is roughly in line with what your enemies can take and what you can take is roughly in line with what the enemies can dish out.

Iirc I have retried two encounters in BG3. One was the goblins at the mill, which was more of a min-maxing/reload thing cause I wanted to take the leader's axe (he can actually escape the scene in various ways I believe).
The other one was the hobgoblin, where I tried a few things. That was a fun encounter but just bum-rushing the place with a fully rested group would probably suffice.
Instead, I placed a powder keg on a roof beam, lured the chief up there, and detonated the thing, making him fall off and taking him down to like 10% of his health.
If you have your group properly positioned (i.e., outside of battle) you can pull Halsin into the fight near the place where the chief landed and take him out with a dual attack.

That's like three turns and that encounter is practically over. The rest are trash mobs really.
Not that it isn't fun. It certainly is.

But I wouldn't mind if it was tougher.
At least on tactician. Maybe later it gets tougher, but that's just my impression so far.
 

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Nah. Paladins are all pushovers. If it weren't the case, we Gnomes wouldn't be doing so well.
Gnomish lobbying to have non-humans amongst ranks of Paladins was the first visible point in history to indicate the start of all modern decline.
 

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Like for example Jaheira when she is not with you, or Minsc from his fight if you kill him (like I did by accident).
I get with other NPCs, but you should've been able to resurrect these guys. If someone needs to die for a story to resolve, have their body mutilated, like when you behead Karlach to give her head to the paladins. This gives reason why she can't be resurrected.
 

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I wonder what the lore reason is for not being able to resurrect any other outside the party. Like for example Jaheira when she is not with you, or Minsc from his fight if you kill him (like I did by accident).
Except for Gayl, of course, not only you can, you have to resurrect him.
 

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So far, it seems to me that some encounters can be cheesed very easily once you understand how environmental elements can be transformed into damage (or even instant-death if you throw someone off a cliff).

If you don't cheese Tactician is fine as far as difficulty goes. The game gives you a lot of rope to have some fun cheesing stuff, but don't expect difficulty balanced toward it, since some of the cheese is basically insta-win buttons. If that bothers you, get the fuck out
 

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I wonder what the lore reason is for not being able to resurrect any other outside the party. Like for example Jaheira when she is not with you, or Minsc from his fight if you kill him (like I did by accident).
For a trivial reason. If you consider things like unlimited resurrections in the story, suddenly the story loses its weight (and sense). Who cares if anyone dies if you can resurrect them anyway.
Because of this, you couldn't resurrect Khalid and other npcs in bg even though you could just go to the temple.
 

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Like for example Jaheira when she is not with you, or Minsc from his fight if you kill him (like I did by accident).
I get with other NPCs, but you should've been able to resurrect these guys. If someone needs to die for a story to resolve, have their body mutilated, like when you behead Karlach to give her head to the paladins. This gives reason why she can't be resurrected.
I mean, we normally can resurrect companions even without a body at all, just from "lingering memory" or some shit, like when they die by getting thrown into a chasm.
 

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I wonder what the lore reason is for not being able to resurrect any other outside the party. Like for example Jaheira when she is not with you, or Minsc from his fight if you kill him (like I did by accident).
For a trivial reason. If you consider things like unlimited resurrections in the story, suddenly the story loses its weight (and sense). Who cares if anyone dies if you can resurrect them anyway.
Because of this, you couldn't resurrect Khalid and other npcs in bg even though you could just go to the temple.
You actually couldn't resurrect Khalid because Jaheira refused it, since she was a thirsty slut who wanted charname's dick and was tired of Cucklid, that's the canon
 

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Strap Yourselves In
You've missed the UI controls. you can resize it as you can any container window in the game. Bottom right corner, there is a handle.

You can also sort by various criteria, including weight and type. No tabs, though they would have been nice. Underrail's tabs are very convenient.
It's been brought up earlier, but some people find Solasta's UI better. I find it more intuitive, but far more limited compared to BG3's UI. Once I got used to BG3's UI and customized it to my needs, I much more preferred the BG3 UI.

Larian's inventory management is constrained by having tons more items to pick up and lug around than Solasta has.

I think BG3's UI is actually pretty great for a Larian UI, and a lot better than the DOS games UIs - but that's a low bar :)

Solasta's UI is still ergonomically a lot better for the actual 5e combat. But then, even there, partly because Larian's interpretation of 5e is a bit loosey-goosey, it also has more "toys" and "fun" elements to cope with, so there's that.

Actually I'm surprised the prestigious assembly hasn't commented more on just how loose and Larianesque their implementation of 5e is, it's not really 5e but a hybrid of 5e and their own DOS tropes. In fact I'm a bit surprised that the WOTC people let some of their changes pass. Typical case in point: having Jump and Shove as bonus actions rather than full - Swen must think that's more "fun" :)

Half the non-porn modding activity on Nexus is people getting rid of any vestiges of 5e proper constraints like Concentration, the other half is people trying to pull the system back to a more formal 5e, like reverting Jump and Shove to full actions.
 

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You don't like MILFs?
Swen, I swear, if you ever arrive in Poland even Jean-Claude Van Damme will not be able to protect you.

I'm going to kick your ass with such a force you will fly around the world and travel more distance than Tin-Tin during all 24 comic book issues.

I bet you are a Walloon, you lazy hack. You are so lazy you grab your dick and wait for an earthquake when you want to masturbate.

Actually, maybe you are Flemish. This would explain how souless your games are.

Go choke on a chocolate waffle.
Poland was a mistake

But we Belgian bros still love you

:love:
 

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You don't like MILFs?
Swen, I swear, if you ever arrive in Poland even Jean-Claude Van Damme will not be able to protect you.

I'm going to kick your ass with such a force you will fly around the world and travel more distance than Tin-Tin during all 24 comic book issues.

I bet you are a Walloon, you lazy hack. You are so lazy you grab your dick and wait for an earthquake when you want to masturbate.

Actually, maybe you are Flemish. This would explain how souless your games are.

Go choke on a chocolate waffle.
Poland was a mistake

But we Belgian bros still love you

:love:
Yes we love our plumber bros.
 

Lagole Gon

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Swen's guide to writing an illithid story:
- Don't focus on illithids too much, shove devils, netheril artifact and dead three into the story too.
- Don't focus on the eldritch horror.
- Put a lot of effort on humanizing illithids outside of Elder's Brain control. They are not alien. They are just like us!
- Make a scene where a shirtless illithid tries to seduce you.

GOTY material, thank you Swen.
 

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You don't like MILFs?
Swen, I swear, if you ever arrive in Poland even Jean-Claude Van Damme will not be able to protect you.

I'm going to kick your ass with such a force you will fly around the world and travel more distance than Tin-Tin during all 24 comic book issues.

I bet you are a Walloon, you lazy hack. You are so lazy you grab your dick and wait for an earthquake when you want to masturbate.

Actually, maybe you are Flemish. This would explain how souless your games are.

Go choke on a chocolate waffle.
Poland was a mistake

But we Belgian bros still love you

:love:
Learn how to speak to elders, you jumped out of Netherlands cock just 2 centuries ago and still got no moral spine.
 

Rhobar121

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You don't like MILFs?
Swen, I swear, if you ever arrive in Poland even Jean-Claude Van Damme will not be able to protect you.

I'm going to kick your ass with such a force you will fly around the world and travel more distance than Tin-Tin during all 24 comic book issues.

I bet you are a Walloon, you lazy hack. You are so lazy you grab your dick and wait for an earthquake when you want to masturbate.

Actually, maybe you are Flemish. This would explain how souless your games are.

Go choke on a chocolate waffle.
Poland was a mistake

But we Belgian bros still love you

:love:
Learn how to speak to elders, you jumped out of Netherlands cock just 2 centuries ago and still got no moral spine.
Nobody organizes such events in Africa like the Belgians :)
 

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