Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

All you need to do is take the age of the house de vir fall

Which we only have one RA Salvatore book from 2005 to tell us about.

I'm trying to discuss the original vision for the character. If you want to talk retcons, it's pointless, since BG3 itself is a retcon, so you might as well say "nuh uh! BG3 says she's old, so she's old!".

 

[Orud]

Viconia turned into a sour grape while Jaheira still looks damn fine even at an older age.

Ya'll just salty you bet on the wrong horse in BG2.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Before she pissed off Loth and escaped from the Underdark, she was a priestess which means she was an adult.

Btw, on this point, I'm going to do more than you or Meb:

Serving Lloth in the temple did not equal adult. She could have done this for decades and still only been 200 by BG2.

Elves mature more slowly compared to humans also being brought to the temple does not mean be a priestess right away by depicted in the forst Drizzt book one first had to serve a lot of time as an acolyte that if she survives that since devoted of Lolth have the bad habit to consort with demons or kill each other."this is also in the forst drizzt book"
Elves are considered adult at 100 years old

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Ya'll just salty you bet on the wrong horse in BG2.

I'll have you know that I cucked Khalid with the rest of you.

 

[whydoibother]

All you need to do is take the age of the house de vir fall

Which we only have one RA Salvatore book from 2005 to tell us about.

I'm trying to discuss the original vision for the character. If you want to talk retcons, it's pointless, since BG3 itself is a retcon, so you might as well say "nuh uh! BG3 says she's old, so she's old!".

If you refuse the canonical texts, and purity spiral into what is acceptable, then consider this:

• elves live several hundreds of years
• in front of you is an elf that has been a noble, a cleric of one goddess, an exile, and a cleric of another goddess
• what is your guess as to the age of that elf?

If you say 20 year old hot babe, you are stupid. This is a wrong answer to the question. An accurate guess is much higher.
And Baldur's Gate 3 takes place 120 years after Baldur's Gate 2. So that's your minimum age for the character in this game.

I really don't care enough to argue the point, I'm just confused as to why you are arguing and why you are upset by this.

 

[fantadomat]

2023 will be the beginning of a new sexual revolution.

Please, no Turks in this thread.

How about pakies then,or marocans?!

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Does anyone give a shit about "romances" in games?

Nah. I do them for fun, have a chuckle at awkward sex scene, then continue with life and don't really think too much of it.

 

[AwesomeButton]

In the city I intervened with one of the people on the kill list, fought the assassin, who escaped, and now the quest likely got bugged because I can't find Gauntlet Devella.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Elves mature more slowly compared to humans also being brought to the temple does not mean be a priestess right away by depicted in the forst Drizzt book one first had to serve a lot of time

You just said they mature slowly and then you say "a lot of time". She could have served for 50 or 75 years and still been the equivalent of 18 by the time she had her crisis of faith. Not that I'm saying she was.

This is the problem with your argument. You take into account Drow age, but not in any way that could be detrimental to your argument.

I'll do a bit more of your work for you: In the game, she says she worshiped Shar for "an age and a half" and "longer than you have been alive". But the player is still a young man. That's a meaningless timeframe. 20 years at most without kowing what she means by "an age and a half".

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

In the city I intervened with one of the people on the kill list, fought the assassin, who escaped, and now the quest likely got bugged because I can't find Gauntlet Devella.

Seek the tailor

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

So uh……. How many of you ordered the RL sized silicon dolls of the characters and love interests. Sven is waiting for the orders to be filled.

I wouldn’t doubt you could get them made.

Leave the LCD and embrace the silicone. It will happen. Then you can fuck those weirdos just like in the game… sort of.

https://www.game-planets.com/news/single/from-the-character-quotresident-evilquot-made-a-sex-doll

https://www.siliconwives.com/products/eva-elfie-sex-doll

https://www.rosemarydoll.com/?gad=1...uczKEUKIVs3wxl5WzC_V_OZsQAJqnBPMaAse_EALw_wcB

https://myrealdolls.com/?gclid=Cj0K...GMujRHtj0ujxfT1Jbs7Nnqv6xCq4OuNUaAt-1EALw_wcB

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[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Elves mature more slowly compared to humans also being brought to the temple does not mean be a priestess right away by depicted in the forst Drizzt book one first had to serve a lot of time

You just said they mature slowly and then you say "a lot of time". She could have served for 50 or 75 years and still been the equivalent of 18 by the time she had her crisis of faith. Not that I'm saying she was.

This is the problem with your argument. You take into account Drow age, but not in any way that could be detrimental to your argument.

I'll do a bit more of your work for you: In the game, she says she worshiped Shar for "an age and a half" and "longer than you have been alive". But the player is still a young man. That's a meaningless timeframe. 20 years at most without kowing what she means by "an age and a half".

No... and i explain you why like i said elves mature slowly they are considered to be of major age when they hit the 100y treshhold. Now lets assume is like you say and Viconia becomed acolyte of Lolth when she was like 75 or 80 then from acolyte there is all the time spent to become a total priestess that would had been also quite some time as well. Then fall of house de vir escape in to the surface becoming acolyte of shar to then become a priestess of shar. That is a huuge time gap to cover.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Getting upset over waifus in RPG in your teens is an ugly scene, but can be reasonably expected. Getting upset over the same when you are twice that ages though, only means you need some kind of help.

Growing up is for suckers, I'm going to be a teenager forever. Suck it, boomer!

EAT MY SHORTS!

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

No... and i explain you why like i said elves mature slowly they are considered to be of major age when they hit the 100y treshhold.

In her dialog, where she speaks of her rite of passage into adulthood, she also mentions that she had slept with countless males before.

I think you're projecting modern, human concepts of what is and isn't maturity.

Now lets assume is like you say and Viconia becomed acolyte of Lolth when she was like 75 or 80

First, I never said this was her age.

Second, the game says she was taken to serve as a child. It doesn't specify her age. It could have been any age where she was old enough to stand. Probably the younger the better.

time spent to become a total priestess that would had been also quite some time as well.

Again, citation needed on the age of a priestess in Drow society.

Then fall of house de vir escape in to the surface becoming acolyte of shar to then become a priestess of shar. That is a huuge time gap to cover.

For a human, not for a Drow.

I will add that sacrificing infants to Lloth is common. For her to have balked at that as a priestess tells me that she wasn't a "total priestess", as you say, of Lloth for very long.

then become a priestess of shar.

She's a level 2 cleric lmao.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

As I said, that was from a book post-BG2. I've already mentioned it and it doesn't give her age.

House Do'Urden destroyed House De'Vir in "Homeland", which was released in 1990.
In BG1 you already meet Drizzt walking the surface, so that's like three books into the saga and after the destruction.

I don't know man.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

House Do'Urden destroyed House De'Vir in "Homeland", which was released in 1990.

Thanks for that. I could never stand the Drizzt books. The wiki said 2005, but that was a reprint.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

House Do'Urden destroyed House De'Vir in "Homeland", which was released in 1990.

Thanks for that. I could never stand the Drizzt books. The wiki said 2005, but that was a reprint.

All good, the wikis are off sometimes. Also yeah, R.A. Salvatore can write some good fight scenes and Drizzt was liked by the audience, but they're pretty lackluster, agreed.

 

[Tyranicon]

BG3: We made a game where all the women are ugly.

Codex:

BG3: That one character in BG2 that you used beat your meat to and was based on a pron star or whatever? We made her ugly too.

Codex:

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

No... and i explain you why like i said elves mature slowly they are considered to be of major age when they hit the 100y treshhold.

In her dialog, where she speaks of her rite of passage into adulthood, she also mentions that she had slept with countless males before.

I think you're projecting modern, human concepts of what is and isn't maturity.

Now lets assume is like you say and Viconia becomed acolyte of Lolth when she was like 75 or 80

First, I never said this.

The game says she was taken to serve as a child. It doesn't specify her age.

time spent to become a total priestess that would had been also quite some time as well.

Again, citation needed on the age of a priestess in Drow society.

Then fall of house de vir escape in to the surface becoming acolyte of shar to then become a priestess of shar. That is a huuge time gap to cover.

For a human, not for a Drow.

I will add that sacrificing infants to Lloth is common. For her to have balked at that as a priestess tells me that she wasn't a "total priestess", as you say, of Lloth for very long.

then become a priestess of shar.

She's a level 2 cleric lmao.

This is getting tiresome not for you let me clarify but the whole argument. All i quoted is the average life expectancy of the elves how much they take to get considered a major age and the average drow lifespan. For the drow lolth priestess process read the first drizzt book is explained well since Drizzt sister is an acolyte of Lolth and his mother is a Matriarch and a Priestess. Is a long process that usially involve staying alive and meet the approval of the high priestess at the same time.avoidong to become a threat for her or you get killed fast. She slept with many men. Well drows females actually have also sex with the slaves for personal amusement they are not even considered people they are considered objects or tools maybe she had sex before reaching the major age? Well i dont see how is pertinet but most likely. Elvea society even drows worka different from human ones they have a different concept of time because of their long lifespan. This is why most elves often think shor life races are reckless. Viconia had the time to become an acolyte and a priestess had the time to see her dinasty fall to then reach the surface and get close to the cult of shar. Also take in consideration that the power a cleric have from their God is something personal between the devoted and the divinity itself. Is no more like that in fifth edition so eventually before becoming a cleric she had to convince Shar to give her powers and that dosnt happen in a blink of an eye expecially for Shar that is often villified and secrecy is part of her whole being. This would be other time to be spent. If on that you add the timespan between bg and bg3 all a lot of more year in the middle.

 

[Eisenheinrich]

Some additional context, from the source AD&D 2nd Edition "Complete Book of Elves" by Colin McComb, released 1992.

This held true for all existing settings at that time (including Forgotten Realms & Greyhawk)

Drow Age:

Childhood 1-49
Adolescence 50-79
Adulthood 80-139
Middle Age 140-189
Old Age 190-224
Venerable Age 225
Maximum Age 225 + 3-300 (up to 525)

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

BG3: We made a game where all the women are ugly.

Codex:

What?

 

[Shaki]

BG3: We made a game where all the women are ugly.

Codex:

BG3: That one character in BG2 that you used beat your meat to and was based on a pron star or whatever? We made her ugly too.

Codex:

All the women aren't ugly tho, there is a shitload of random NPCs that look like supermodels, it's just companions and Viconia who are uggos

 

[Crichton]

So what are we saying here? Viconia hit some sort of wall between the 2E and 5E elven age categories?

 

[Eisenheinrich]

It all could've been worse. Guess they didn't want to roll with the "loud and obnoxious black women stereotype":

 

[Shaki]

It all could've been worse. Guess they didn't want to roll with the "loud and obnoxious black women stereotype":

Sheeeiiiit, now everything about her writing finally makes sense