Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[dukeofwoodberry]

Well halsin doesn't really have a questline either. It's just a case of these two characters being later tacked on addition. Halsin is actually offensively boring too, made me wish I went the evil route in act1 at every turn. Probably purely made as a second romance option for females to counterbalance the effeminate astarion before they decided that everyone in the game is queer.
I don't even understand why they needed to make him an actual party member, when they have jaheira as a druid also on the good path and she is surprisingly well characterized as the old adventurer that just can't retire.

Halsin isn't a real character. He's a bear sex meme they tacked on last minute. I never heard that Minthara was tacked on last minute. But you lose like 3 companions recruiting Minthara so she should have more content and a quest line to compensate. It's not the same situation.

Minthara is also very popular which I don't think Larian expected. Larian doesn't understand hot, female drow = popular.

Lots of players are pissed off you have to sack the grove to get her (which is gay.) And I think a lot more players sacked the grove than Larian expected because a lot of players wanted Minthara over the fags

who leaves if you sack the grove ?

Karla wyll and you kill halsin so 3 companions

Oh god, so you lose the 3 shittiest companions lmao.
What a tragedy I didn't go evil in act1.

You lose more than just 3 companions, you also lose future quests and vendors in a2 and 3.
It's a really well developed game, see.

Being bad has... le bad consequences?
Color me shocked

Shouldn't being super altruistic and going out of your way to help others having negative consequences also? Not looking out for your self interests has consequences if there's competent writing

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Who was the most played character for people who played as an origin character? Gale. The white human lol. I know Larian was upset so many players were making their MC human when they put all these races and sliders in the game.

I actually think Larian is a kind of out of touch and not understanding the customer base for their games.

If you pay for this game despite hating woke stuff, then Larian knows what sells. If you pirate because there's woke stuff, you aren't a customer and don't count. Hence the next game by them will have an equal amount of woke stuff given how well BG3 has sold.

$100 says you're an incel who is so sexually frustrated you're considering (or have already) dressing up as a girl to have sex with men

Le projectione le much

No I'm actually good looking

 

[VerSacrum]

35% sacked the grove which was quite a lot. Most likely to get minthara and because they didn't like the fag "good" characters

Based Gobbo ethnostate vs. Rainbow grove of diversity
I only saved them because of the tief qts

If you sign this here i'll let you lick my soles

 

[Black]

Well halsin doesn't really have a questline either. It's just a case of these two characters being later tacked on addition. Halsin is actually offensively boring too, made me wish I went the evil route in act1 at every turn. Probably purely made as a second romance option for females to counterbalance the effeminate astarion before they decided that everyone in the game is queer.
I don't even understand why they needed to make him an actual party member, when they have jaheira as a druid also on the good path and she is surprisingly well characterized as the old adventurer that just can't retire.

Halsin isn't a real character. He's a bear sex meme they tacked on last minute. I never heard that Minthara was tacked on last minute. But you lose like 3 companions recruiting Minthara so she should have more content and a quest line to compensate. It's not the same situation.

Minthara is also very popular which I don't think Larian expected. Larian doesn't understand hot, female drow = popular.

Lots of players are pissed off you have to sack the grove to get her (which is gay.) And I think a lot more players sacked the grove than Larian expected because a lot of players wanted Minthara over the fags

who leaves if you sack the grove ?

Karla wyll and you kill halsin so 3 companions

Oh god, so you lose the 3 shittiest companions lmao.
What a tragedy I didn't go evil in act1.

You lose more than just 3 companions, you also lose future quests and vendors in a2 and 3.
It's a really well developed game, see.

Being bad has... le bad consequences?
Color me shocked

It must be shocking to 2023 newfags that you can have "evil" paths and still not neuter your game's content.

That would be stupid, you want to be evil and still go around helping refuges and shit?

Isn't it amazing how both KOTOR 2 and MotB managed to make proper evil paths without cutting content?
Of course the underlying problem here is that both you and larian assume evil = basic bitch murderhobo.

 

[Grauken]

Who was the most played character for people who played as an origin character? Gale. The white human lol. I know Larian was upset so many players were making their MC human when they put all these races and sliders in the game.

I actually think Larian is a kind of out of touch and not understanding the customer base for their games.

If you pay for this game despite hating woke stuff, then Larian knows what sells. If you pirate because there's woke stuff, you aren't a customer and don't count. Hence the next game by them will have an equal amount of woke stuff given how well BG3 has sold.

$100 says you're an incel who is so sexually frustrated you're considering (or have already) dressing up as a girl to have sex with men

Le projectione le much

No I'm actually good looking

Sure you are incel

 

[Barbarian]

Who was the most played character for people who played as an origin character? Gale. The white human lol. I know Larian was upset so many players were making their MC human when they put all these races and sliders in the game.

I actually think Larian is a kind of out of touch and not understanding the customer base for their games.

Doesn't Durge count as an origin? I would imagine he is the most played.

 

[Rhobar121]

Who was the most played character for people who played as an origin character? Gale. The white human lol. I know Larian was upset so many players were making their MC human when they put all these races and sliders in the game.

I actually think Larian is a kind of out of touch and not understanding the customer base for their games.

Doesn't Durge count as an origin? I would imagine he is the most played.

From what I remember it counts as a custom character.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Yeah I don't understand evil= murder hobo and cutting off quests and content. Evil should equal acting in your own self interest, not necessarily killing everyone.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Who was the most played character for people who played as an origin character? Gale. The white human lol. I know Larian was upset so many players were making their MC human when they put all these races and sliders in the game.

I actually think Larian is a kind of out of touch and not understanding the customer base for their games.

Doesn't Durge count as an origin? I would imagine he is the most played.

I don't think larian was counting durge. That's a technicality

 

[Barbarian]

Yeah I don't understand evil= murder hobo and cutting off quests and content. Evil should equal acting in your own self interest, not necessarily killing everyone.

The whole raiding the grove bit is stupid. So stupid that the drow allegedly questions your motives afterwards, not really understanding why you went along with it.

There is no solid reward or motive involved besides "lewl, let's go murder hobo, join the evil cult and kill every druid or tiefling I see". There is the meta motive of romancing and recruiting mommy drow, but even that is not presented in the game before you take this option.

 

[Larianshill]

I'm currently pondering a small rewrite of the evil route in this game. Nothing too substantial is necessary, just a change there, a recurring NPC there.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Yeah I don't understand evil= murder hobo and cutting off quests and content. Evil should equal acting in your own self interest, not necessarily killing everyone.

The whole raiding the grove bit is stupid. So stupid that the drow allegedly questions your motives afterwards, not really understanding why you went along with it.

There is no solid reward or motive involved besides "lewl, let's go murder hobo, join the evil cult and kill every druid or tiefling I see". There is the meta motive of romancing and recruiting mommy drow, but even that is not presented in the game before you take this option.

I can see the arguement that you're trying to stay on the absolute's good side/infiltrate instead of appearing as an obvious enemy

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Who was the most played character for people who played as an origin character? Gale. The white human lol. I know Larian was upset so many players were making their MC human when they put all these races and sliders in the game.

I actually think Larian is a kind of out of touch and not understanding the customer base for their games.

If you pay for this game despite hating woke stuff, then Larian knows what sells. If you pirate because there's woke stuff, you aren't a customer and don't count. Hence the next game by them will have an equal amount of woke stuff given how well BG3 has sold.

$100 says you're an incel who is so sexually frustrated you're considering (or have already) dressing up as a girl to have sex with men

Le projectione le much

No I'm actually good looking

Sure you are incel

How do you look in women's clothes?

 

[Larianshill]

The problem is, you don't get shit for infiltrating the Absolute. Do you subvert their members and turn them on your side? No, outside of Mintharra, and that one is mostly by accident. Do you gain unique knowledge of your condition, that you wouldn't otherwise? No, not really. Do you end up in a better position against the cult? No, and if you were dumb enough to side with the cult during your entrance to Shadowlands, you actually end up in the significantly worse position, because you have to fight a very strong drider later on. Do you gain access to some unique tadpole powers? No. Do you gain acceess to some powerful cultist weaponry? No, you actually gain far better access to it when you side AGAINST the cult, which is... Odd.
The idea of infiltrating the cult to achieve some goals is definitely an interesting one, you can do things with it, but the game doesn't do anything.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Being bad has... le bad consequences?

Immoral acts happen because they let you get ahead of the curve, at least theoretically. In this game, most narratively immoral acts not only do not let you get ahead of the curve, they objectively pull you behind the curve set by the nominally moral options.

If you're being consistently punished for being bad, are you role playing a bad person, or an imbecile?

 

[Grauken]

Who was the most played character for people who played as an origin character? Gale. The white human lol. I know Larian was upset so many players were making their MC human when they put all these races and sliders in the game.

I actually think Larian is a kind of out of touch and not understanding the customer base for their games.

If you pay for this game despite hating woke stuff, then Larian knows what sells. If you pirate because there's woke stuff, you aren't a customer and don't count. Hence the next game by them will have an equal amount of woke stuff given how well BG3 has sold.

$100 says you're an incel who is so sexually frustrated you're considering (or have already) dressing up as a girl to have sex with men

Le projectione le much

No I'm actually good looking

Sure you are incel

How do you look in women's clothes?

I don't know, but sent me a picture when you put them on as usual and I will know what not to do Duke of Wool

 

[Fedora Master]

It's really simple. A lot of the minor additional content was put in because "the community" was horny for it. Dick options. Minthara and Halsin as companions.

Should've spent the time on fixing the last act instead.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

The problem is, you don't get shit for infiltrating the Absolute. Do you subvert their members and turn them on your side? No, outside of Mintharra, and that one is mostly by accident. Do you gain unique knowledge of your condition, that you wouldn't otherwise? No, not really. Do you end up in a better position against the cult? No, and if you were dumb enough to side with the cult during your entrance to Shadowlands, you actually end up in the significantly worse position, because you have to fight a very strong drider later on. Do you gain access to some unique tadpole powers? No. Do you gain acceess to some powerful cultist weaponry? No, you actually gain far better access to it when you side AGAINST the cult, which is... Odd.
The idea of infiltrating the cult to achieve some goals is definitely an interesting one, you can do things with it, but the game doesn't do anything.

Oh I totally agree but that's an act 2 and act 3 problem. The logic/strategy is there in act 1 but Larian drops the balls with it in act 2 and act 3. Larian shit the bed with evil after act 1, another thing players are realizing after they get deeper in the game or do a 2nd evil playthrough.

This is not a 97/100 game. Tons of flaws and act 1 is the best of the game

 

[Larianshill]

No, I think act 1 has the same problem. In fact, I remember many people (including myself) complaining about more or less these exact things in the early access.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

It's really simple. A lot of the minor additional content was put in because "the community" was horny for it. Dick options. Minthara and Halsin as companions.

Should've spent the time on fixing the last act instead.

Minthara is not the same as Haslin. She's necessary because you lose companions going evil and it's necessary to have evil only companions. Plus she's actually somewhat cool and her story makes sense within the overarching plot.

Minthara should be a fully developed companion. BG games are known for having awesome evil companions and Larian dropped the ball

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

No, I think act 1 has the same problem. In fact, I remember many people (including myself) complaining about more or less these exact things in the early access.

It gets way worse as the game goes on. Evil gets shafted more and more with less and less content.

 

[volklore]

The problem is, you don't get shit for infiltrating the Absolute. Do you subvert their members and turn them on your side? No, outside of Mintharra, and that one is mostly by accident. Do you gain unique knowledge of your condition, that you wouldn't otherwise? No, not really. Do you end up in a better position against the cult? No, and if you were dumb enough to side with the cult during your entrance to Shadowlands, you actually end up in the significantly worse position, because you have to fight a very strong drider later on. Do you gain access to some unique tadpole powers? No. Do you gain acceess to some powerful cultist weaponry? No, you actually gain far better access to it when you side AGAINST the cult, which is... Odd.
The idea of infiltrating the cult to achieve some goals is definitely an interesting one, you can do things with it, but the game doesn't do anything.

Oh I totally agree but that's an act 2 and act 3 problem. The logic/strategy is there in act 1 but Larian drops the balls with it in act 2 and act 3. Larian shit the bed with evil after act 1, another thing players are realizing after they get deeper in the game or do a 2nd evil playthrough.

This is not a 97/100 game. Tons of flaws and act 1 is the best of the game

Are you actually getting barred from last light if you go evil route, assuming you don't just durge kill isobel? There is different evil routes than just siding with the absolute and infiltrate it at every turn : killing/not killing the nightson for example. Losing content is a bit of a moot point. You're still going to have the main content there, you just lose companions and a few vendors. But amount of quests you lose by going evil is not that big of deal. Definitely not exp wise.
What do you lose if you side with one of the baddies in a3?

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

The problem is, you don't get shit for infiltrating the Absolute. Do you subvert their members and turn them on your side? No, outside of Mintharra, and that one is mostly by accident. Do you gain unique knowledge of your condition, that you wouldn't otherwise? No, not really. Do you end up in a better position against the cult? No, and if you were dumb enough to side with the cult during your entrance to Shadowlands, you actually end up in the significantly worse position, because you have to fight a very strong drider later on. Do you gain access to some unique tadpole powers? No. Do you gain acceess to some powerful cultist weaponry? No, you actually gain far better access to it when you side AGAINST the cult, which is... Odd.
The idea of infiltrating the cult to achieve some goals is definitely an interesting one, you can do things with it, but the game doesn't do anything.

Oh I totally agree but that's an act 2 and act 3 problem. The logic/strategy is there in act 1 but Larian drops the balls with it in act 2 and act 3. Larian shit the bed with evil after act 1, another thing players are realizing after they get deeper in the game or do a 2nd evil playthrough.

This is not a 97/100 game. Tons of flaws and act 1 is the best of the game

Are you actually getting barred from last light if you go evil route, assuming you don't just durge kill isobel? There is different evil routes that just siding with absolute and infiltrate it at every turn. Losing content is a bit of a moot point. You're still going to have the main content there, you just lose companions and a few vendors. But amount of quests you lose by going evil is not that big of deal. definitely not exp wise.
What do you lose if you side with one of the baddies in a3?

You lose a lot of quests. It's not about the xp, it's about content playing the game. I don't want to lose like 5-6 optional 2nd act quests

 

[MerchantKing]

From what I've seen Mirantha is actually very popular. Shadow tits was by far the most romanced.

It makes more sense since Shadowheart is the only remotely feminine companion in the game. Karlack and Lezzel are just the typical girlboss modern leftist ESG score inserts. M

Minthara seems more like Viconia in BG2 though much less feminine due to the writers. She's bait for the "I CAN STILL SAVE HER" type just like Viconia. Too bad they gave her a man's face too and made her a paladin instead of cleric. That's if she's really a "she" and not a man like so many of the other "women" in this game.

The fag/tranny gamer population is wildly over stated. Most gamers are regular dudes. The average gamer is more conservative than the average person definitely

Most people in general are the go along to get along sort. That includes gamers.

I think Minthara looks good. We already have shadow tits as a cleric so it wouldn't make sense to have another one. I think they wanted an evil charisma character in case you sacked the grove and needed/wanted someone to handle dialogue checks.

I'd rather not have woke tropes like females with a martial class and more than 14 STR. They could've made her a warlock, sorc, or bard if they wanted an evil charisma character though.

Most people are non political yeah but my point is they're not writing content that the average consumer of their product will enjoy. And even these go along types were getting a little annoyed by all the fag come ons

Yet they still spent money on this game and bought into the hype, they still watch all these netflix, amazon, and marvel movies, and they still subscribe to twitch trannies in spite of all of them doing the same thing.

 

[MerchantKing]

Well halsin doesn't really have a questline either. It's just a case of these two characters being later tacked on addition. Halsin is actually offensively boring too, made me wish I went the evil route in act1 at every turn. Probably purely made as a second romance option for females to counterbalance the effeminate astarion before they decided that everyone in the game is queer.
I don't even understand why they needed to make him an actual party member, when they have jaheira as a druid also on the good path and she is surprisingly well characterized as the old adventurer that just can't retire.

Halsin isn't a real character. He's a bear sex meme they tacked on last minute. I never heard that Minthara was tacked on last minute. But you lose like 3 companions recruiting Minthara so she should have more content and a quest line to compensate. It's not the same situation.

Minthara is also very popular which I don't think Larian expected. Larian doesn't understand hot, female drow = popular.

Lots of players are pissed off you have to sack the grove to get her (which is gay.) And I think a lot more players sacked the grove than Larian expected because a lot of players wanted Minthara over the fags

who leaves if you sack the grove ?

The "female" roidtranny and the Basketball American. The bestiality bear just goes an hero in your camp later if it's still alive.