Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Ryzer]

I don't really like Icewind Dale as much as most dexers

How ? Why ?

storyfags

Apart from the issue of sex with polar bears, Larian's simplified turn-based combat will always be higher in my opinion than RtwP combat.

Simplified combat, you say? The so-called 'game of the year' lets you sneak up in broad daylight, stroll across the street in front of guards with no consequences, imposes no range penalty, elevates the sniper rifle to king status even in melee range, and renders helmets pointless - just slap on a night goggle and snipe everyone on the map. From what I've seen, BG3 offers a much deeper tactical experience in comparison.

Nah

 

[Mortmal]

I don't really like Icewind Dale as much as most dexers

How ? Why ?

storyfags

Apart from the issue of sex with polar bears, Larian's simplified turn-based combat will always be higher in my opinion than RtwP combat.

Simplified combat, you say? The so-called 'game of the year' lets you sneak up in broad daylight, stroll across the street in front of guards with no consequences, imposes no range penalty, elevates the sniper rifle to king status even in melee range, and renders helmets pointless - just slap on a night goggle and snipe everyone on the map. From what I've seen, BG3 offers a much deeper tactical experience in comparison.

Nah

Should have seen it coming as you could mostly do it with rangers in solasta too.

 

[Moink]

Not going to watch the video but I'll assume it's buffing stealth with Trickery Cleric+items and then casting greater invisibility so combat never starts?

 

[Mortmal]

Not going to watch the video but I'll assume it's buffing stealth with Trickery Cleric+items and then casting greater invisibility so combat never starts?

Yes, it seems neither game handles Greater Invisibility well. At least it's closer to the end when you acquire that spell.

 

[Moink]

Not going to watch the video but I'll assume it's buffing stealth with Trickery Cleric+items and then casting greater invisibility so combat never starts?

Yes, it seems neither game handles Greater Invisibility well. At least it's closer to the end when you acquire that spell.

The game really struggles with anything that breaks line of sight, up until the last patch darkness party comps were meta because the enemy would lose track of where you are and just walk around in the clouds before ending turn.

 

[Barbarian]

Have they fixed shadowhottie's portrait when she dyes her hair silver?

 

[ArchAngel]

Not going to watch the video but I'll assume it's buffing stealth with Trickery Cleric+items and then casting greater invisibility so combat never starts?

Yes, it seems neither game handles Greater Invisibility well. At least it's closer to the end when you acquire that spell.

To be fair, even in PnP Greater Invisibility was basically death if you didn't have a counter ready. Especially if said Invisible attacker was also flying.

 

[Fedora Master]

I don't really like Icewind Dale as much as most dexers

How ? Why ?

storyfags

Apart from the issue of sex with polar bears, Larian's simplified turn-based combat will always be higher in my opinion than RtwP combat.

Simplified combat, you say? The so-called 'game of the year' lets you sneak up in broad daylight, stroll across the street in front of guards with no consequences, imposes no range penalty, elevates the sniper rifle to king status even in melee range, and renders helmets pointless - just slap on a night goggle and snipe everyone on the map. From what I've seen, BG3 offers a much deeper tactical experience in comparison.

Nah

wow a game that trivializes itself by lvl 8 is trival

 

[La vie sexuelle]

I don't really like Icewind Dale as much as most dexers

How ? Why ?

storyfags

Apart from the issue of sex with polar bears, Larian's simplified turn-based combat will always be higher in my opinion than RtwP combat.

Simplified combat, you say?

Yes.

 

[Jeskis]

Bg3’s stealth is a shitshow. You can cheese everything as a rogue.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Bg3’s stealth is a shitshow. You can cheese everything as a rogue.

it feels like that's the case since 3.x though

 

[Lagole Gon]

I loaded my old save to check out the bonus ending scene.
I had a file saved during the last *last* fight with the brain.

Gues what happened.

...

It bugged out.
The brain insta-died for no reason at all.

 

[jf8350143]

So in the new patch they added a new dialogue for Minthara where she gets angry at Dark Urge and break up with them if they reject Bhaal because she thinks rejects power is stupid, even when the power costs your freedom. Which basically goes against everything she does and says before the patch.

And the patch breaks her dialogue tree, again, for like the 10th time.

Larian just please go back to fixing your useless kissing animation and leave her alone, she is a fine enough evil character from the begining, everything you added later just make her worse.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

that sounds like the sort of behavior a drow matron would have, so it fits her character at least

 

[KeAShizuku]

I'm conflicted. On one hand it is good that developers support their game on the other the game keeps changing to the point that YOU'VE NEVER ACTUALLY PLAYED THE GAME.

Where does it end? Will they keep tinkering away for the next 5 years?

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I'm conflicted. On one hand it is good that developers support their game on the other the game keeps changing to the point that YOU'VE NEVER ACTUALLY PLAYED THE GAME.

Where does it end? Will they keep tinkering away for the next 5 years?

they're probably adding content that wasn't fully ready even at release. i wonder how bad the situation went during 2020, with lockdowns and working from home.

 

[Yosharian]

that sounds like the sort of behavior a drow matron would have, so it fits her character at least

Yeah I would like to see the evidence that this is against her previous character motivations because that sounds EXACTLY like Minthara

Edit: actually I see where JF is coming from now.

 

[Haplo]

Bg3’s stealth is a shitshow. You can cheese everything as a rogue.

Yes, but you have to work for it and play relatively slow and methodically and/or keep re-setting combat.
Meanwhile without stealth there are plenty of items and builds that also trivialise the game - without the effort needed.

 

[Jeskis]

that sounds like the sort of behavior a drow matron would have, so it fits her character at least

Yeah I would like to see the evidence that this is against her previous character motivations because that sounds EXACTLY like Minthara

At first I had an impression that she kind of re-evaluated things after being an Absolute puppet. In some dialogs she’s more hesitant to go full power mongering and relies on charname judgements, in the others she still doesn’t care the price and is ready for another tadpole if that gives her.. something. I’d say despite her being the most likable character, she’s written pretty inconsistently.

 

[Yosharian]

that sounds like the sort of behavior a drow matron would have, so it fits her character at least

Yeah I would like to see the evidence that this is against her previous character motivations because that sounds EXACTLY like Minthara

At first I had an impression that she kind of re-evaluated things after being an Absolute puppet. In some dialogs she’s more hesitant to go full power mongering and relies on charname judgements, in the others she still doesn’t care the price and is ready for another tadpole if that gives her.. something. I’d say despite her being the most likable character, she’s written pretty inconsistently.

I think the difference here is that she sees Bhaal's power as a win-win scenario, but I do get where you're coming from there actually.

 

[jf8350143]

that sounds like the sort of behavior a drow matron would have, so it fits her character at least

Yeah I would like to see the evidence that this is against her previous character motivations because that sounds EXACTLY like Minthara

Edit: actually I see where JF is coming from now.

She is power hungry but she hates being controlled by others, especially gods because she was controlled by the absolute. She approves of Shadow heart rid of Shal's control while critize Warlocks for begging power from their patreon. Before this patch, in the epilogue she even praise Dark Urge for reject Bhaal if she is romanced.

Basically she values being free over power, she wants to be the one dominating the world, not dominate the world for a master. If anything she should break up with Dark Urge if they embrace Bhaal because that means they are Bhaal's little bitch and has no more control of their life.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

But if TDU is a baalspawn, that's what he is, unlike being controlled by a foreign entity like the absolute, unless i'm wrong

 

[Fedora Master]

Urge isn't just a Bhaalspawn, he was made directly from Bhaal himself. (Making the idea of a "good" Urge or a non-Human one very stupid.)

 

[MerchantKing]

Every man is a ballspawn. Where else do you think the sperm is made?

 

[Larianshill]

Mintharra hating on you for breaking up with Bhaal is absurd. Bhaal is the Absolute, all that shit that she's bitching about non-stop happened while the brain was under control of the Dead Three. Now she's fine with selling out TDU's ass (and hers, and everyone else's in the world) to the same guy? To what end? Bhaal's endgame is a worldwide free-for-all, where the last living human climbs a mountain of corpses, looks to the sky and yells "I've won!", and this is is the future that Bhaal-controlled TDU will bring about.
Once again, the game would be considerably better if TDU was the Banespawn, not Bhaalspawn. In that case, Mintharra's logic would kind of make sense - at least Bane's ideal world is consistent with hers.