Incline Battle Brothers + Beasts & Exploration, Warriors of the North and Blazing Deserts DLC Thread

[Salvo]

A-ha! Battle Brothers influencing "popular" culture!

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Fake news...
Schrat is a forest demon according to an on-line dictionary, I checked because many names have a german consonance.

Aye, Waldschrat is some sort of undefined evil forest troll.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrat

It looks like a german Tengu

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Darth Canoli]

Gee, it was supposed to be a joke goddamit.

Hah, I thought about correcting you, but then thought that you probably can put 2+2 together seeing as most BB-specific monsters are from Germanic folklore.

It's sad how we've been trained nowadays to assume everyone but us is an idiot. I blame social media.

Well, next time you make a joke, make sure it's funny to give us a hint.

 

[Serus]

A propos. As someone said, most monsters' names are either from German mythology of are generic fantasy stuff. However i'm not sure where Necrosavants come from? Obviously they are vampire-like creatures but the name. Is it from some fantasy book, fully made up by the authors, else?

 

[*-*/\--/\~]

But sadly the base game just isn't playable as is.


I know many years back the developers had done some initial exploration of adding women,

You need Beasts & Exploration for that.

You mean... Breasts & Exploration? :D I'll show myself out now.

 

[Harthwain]

A propos. As someone said, most monsters' names are either from German mythology of are generic fantasy stuff. However i'm not sure where Necrosavants come from? Obviously they are vampire-like creatures but the name. Is it from some fantasy book, fully made up by the authors, else?

Necrosavant as a creature concept predates Battle Brothers. Below you can see a card from Magic: The Gathering:

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In MTG it is a giant zombie. However, I have no idea how accurate it is or where the very idea of necrosavant originated from.

 

[Old Hans]

A propos. As someone said, most monsters' names are either from German mythology of are generic fantasy stuff. However i'm not sure where Necrosavants come from? Obviously they are vampire-like creatures but the name. Is it from some fantasy book, fully made up by the authors, else?

Necrosavant as a creature concept predates Battle Brothers. Below you can see a card from Magic: The Gathering:

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In MTG it is a giant zombie. However, I have no idea how accurate it is or where the very idea of necrosavant originated from.

I think it's just another name for Necromancer

 

[Tse Tse Fly]

Hello,
Does mercenary's background really affect anything for a newly recruited mercenary? His performance in battle for example? Is there any real difference between, say, a ratcatcher and beggar?

 

[Old One]

Short answer: yes. The differences get more pronounced as they gain levels.

It is possible to have a really garbage ratcatcher and a really good beggar though.

There's a much bigger difference when you start comparing your beggar to a gladiator or a hedge knight, or any other serious bro.

 

[Serus]

I think that's not what he asked.

Hello,
Does mercenary's background really affect anything for a newly recruited mercenary? His performance in battle for example? Is there any real difference between, say, a ratcatcher and beggar?

The answer is no with one or two exceptions. Ratcather and beggar with exactly same stats IN COMBAT are the same.
The exceptions are:
- The houndmaster gives his dog a better morale.
- A killer on the run has (iirc) +5% to hit head.
- Brawlers get +100% unarmed damage (useless)
- Maybe one or two more.
Other than that it is all stats and all stats are gained at the same rate.
However starting stats can wary greatly. Starting with 50 + * melee vs 60 + *** means a 75 vs 95 melee at level 11 and the way it works linearly it is a very big difference. It might be a difference between 20% and 40% chance to hit for example.
There are different encounters and options outside combat with different backgrounds and traits though but that's obvious. Monk has some nice ones but even having a stupid character helps in one encounter.

 

[Tse Tse Fly]

If I have two candidates - one is a beggar and the other is a ratcatcher, the latter being more expensive, should I ever consider taking the ratcatcher? Their starting equipment is almost always trash which I'm going to replace with my own equipment anyway, so why would I want to pay more? Do starting stats depend in any way on the background? Have some backgrounds better rolls for certain stats - both in the beginning and upon gaining a new level?

In my experience, ~450 coins backgrounds seem to die just as easily as ~150 ones, so is there any reason to pay more if it is not some highly experienced veteran with top equipment?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Do starting stats depend in any way on the background?

Yes.

 

[Teut Busnet]

I think that's not what he asked.


The answer is no with one or two exceptions. Ratcather and beggar with exactly same stats IN COMBAT are the same.
The exceptions are:
- The houndmaster gives his dog a better morale.
- A killer on the run has (iirc) +5% to hit head.
- Brawlers get +100% unarmed damage (useless)
- Maybe one or two more.
Other than that it is all stats and all stats are gained at the same rate.
However starting stats can wary greatly. Starting with 50 + * melee vs 60 + *** means a 75 vs 95 melee at level 11 and the way it works linearly it is a very big difference. It might be a difference between 20% and 40% chance to hit for example.
There are different encounters and options outside combat with different backgrounds and traits though but that's obvious. Monk has some nice ones but even having a stupid character helps in one encounter.

A very good post.

Let me just add that it's the Juggler who gets +5% to hit the head, the Killer on the Run gets +10%.
The Witchhunter also has a bonus of '+20' on his resolve against fear and mind control.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Do starting stats depend in any way on the background? Have some backgrounds better rolls for certain stats - both in the beginning and upon gaining a new level?

Yes, substantially. You'll get a feel for which backgrounds are good as you play the game. Hint: people who do a lot of manual labour tend to be in shape.

 

[Serus]

If I have two candidates - one is a beggar and the other is a ratcatcher, the latter being more expensive, should I ever consider taking the ratcatcher? Their starting equipment is almost always trash which I'm going to replace with my own equipment anyway, so why would I want to pay more? Do starting stats depend in any way on the background? Have some backgrounds better rolls for certain stats - both in the beginning and upon gaining a new level?

In my experience, ~450 coins backgrounds seem to die just as easily as ~150 ones, so is there any reason to pay more if it is not some highly experienced veteran with top equipment?

Different backgrounds have different stats at the beginning. Additionally - this is important if you don't sevescum = better backgrounds get better traits. Beggars don't get almost anything good. However once the starting stats have been rolled they grow at the same speed. Remember the stars too.
What makes a beggar different than ratcatcher even later is the pool of his possible special encounters. But i don't remember any beggar encounter, i never take because they are terrible usually. Some high tier backgrounds or specialist ones can "give" you nice stuff. But those aren't crucial so don'rt concern yourself too much with.

 

[Old One]

Off the top of my head, the only one for sure worse than Beggar is Cripple. I could be forgetting some though.

 

[PorkaMorka]

The average beggar has sub-par stats in several categories, although they can still be good if they get near exceptional rolls, which is rare.

The average rat catcher has average lowborn stats, but with more initiative and a little less health. They don't need max rolls to be good, they just need decent rolls.

 

[Serus]

The average beggar has sub-par stats in several categories, although they can still be good if they get near exceptional rolls, which is rare.

The average rat catcher has average lowborn stats, but with more initiative and a little less health. They don't need max rolls to be good, they just need decent rolls.

Additionally beggars can't have many good traits which further lowers their "potential". I looked in the wiki, among others traits they can't get fearless, strong or determined which are among the better ones. He can, otoh, get almost all the bad ones. Truth to be told ratcatchers is not very different but he has better base stats as you said. And many more good events. And one more important thing often ignored. Some backgrounds can't get stars in some categories. Beggar can't have stars in health or resolve. Ratcatchers can.
I don't suggest to look for those stats on the wiki. It is funnier not to. After hiring a few guys of any given backgrounds you start to learn if they are the good ones or not. In addition those stats are somewhat "logically" distributed. One should not expect good stats from a "profession" called "cripple" (or "beggar") but a healthy "farmhand" has a good chance of being above average healthy (and slightly less brave). It often makes sense.

 

[Luka-boy]

Yep. Just like miners normally have a pretty low Fatigue stat because their lungs are fucked from breathing in so much dust and rock/metal particles.

 

[Space Satan]

Seek for gravediggers and cultists, they can have stellar stats sometimes.

 

[Sunri]

This game is pretty good, but it is more RNG heavy than Darkest Dungeon lol

 

[PorkaMorka]

This game is pretty good, but it is more RNG heavy than Darkest Dungeon lol

Try to avoid situations where you need good luck (or even decent luck) to win.

 

[Sunri]

This game is pretty good, but it is more RNG heavy than Darkest Dungeon lol

Try to avoid situations where you need good luck (or even decent luck) to win.

I went into woods got ambushed by 5 vampires, game over not much can be done except avoiding trees.

 

[Berengar]

Started playing Darklands recently and can't help but notice similarities with Battle Brothers(with the gameplay loops not the combat, obviously). At the risk of sounding naïve was there some Darklands inspiration for BB do you think?

 

[Alienman]

This game is pretty good, but it is more RNG heavy than Darkest Dungeon lol

Try to avoid situations where you need good luck (or even decent luck) to win.

I went into woods got ambushed by 5 vampires, game over not much can be done except avoiding trees.

Did you open a box you shouldn't have opened?

 

[Harthwain]

Did you open a box you shouldn't have opened?

Isn't the box

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related to skeletons, not vampires?

I read a few times about people who got ambushed by vampires. The problem is vampires are fast and can easily decimate your brothers, even if you try to run away (both on the map and in battle), so if you get jumped by them (playing on fast forward at night or in the woods) you are guaranteed to have a hard time.