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From Software Bloodborne. Discuss or die!

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Morgoth, May 2, 2014.

  1. hackncrazy Learned

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    There is absolutely zero places in any of Dark Souls or Bloodborne that is as good as Tower of Latria.
     
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  2. sullynathan Arcane

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    The tower is retarded and filled with glitches.

    Brume tower is better and that's not the least of it
     
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  3. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Yeah I suspected you're one of those. There's a subset of Souls fandom that only cares about the game to be pretty and the combat to flow nicely. Basically you care about the body. And sure, if that's the case for you then absolutely, the best game for you will be DS3 and BB, obviously. And DeS, DS1 and DS2 will feel "clunky".

    For me - and many others - what makes the series truly special is not the body but the soul. The mystery, the secrets, the quirks, the little mischievous details, the itemization, the twists and turns in the level design, the unique on-line mechanics like messages, invasions and bloodstains, the many design features nobody has ever seen or even imagined before DeS (you have to fight a gigantic boss 10 minutes into the game and if you don't die by a miracle there's another boss, even more gigantic, that kills you for sure...and that's just one of many) and that literally blew everyone's mind. To all that, the great body - the fact it's pretty and moves nicely - is the bonus.

    So for me DS3 is a Souls game without a soul. The body moves better than ever but it's just a living undead, a hollow. The magic, the spark of life, of innovation, originality and ingeniousness is gone. It's all disinterested, by-the-numbers, rehashed, half-assed grey ash. Figures I guess.

    If what Miyazaki wanted to achieve with DS3 is for the fans to stop pestering him with calls for more sequels and say "ok it was a good game but now I'm ready for the FromSoft to make something different" than he succeeded beyond imagination.
     
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  4. Ivan Arcane

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    Dark Souls 2 DLC>Bloodborne>all else
     
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  5. TheSentinel Arcane

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    But they don't feel clunky. DS1 and DeS still shit on DS2 from miles up above.
     
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  6. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Oh he does but I did find it convincing enough to be engaged. And when I watched the BB lore run by ENB he said pretty much the same thing.

    Seems to me people say that only because they hear other people saying that. Because "everybody knows that". Saying DS2 level design is worse than DS1, I could understand that. But saying DS1 level design is great and DS2 "abysmal" smacks of drama edginess sorry.

    But whatever, let's agree to disagree.
     
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  7. hackncrazy Learned

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    Almost 100% of what you described something that me, a person 100% interested in the gameplay portion of the games, cares about. With that, I still think that if you care about any of these items, Dark Souls 2 is easily the worst game in the series (with the exception of the invasions/PVP, which seems to be very praised on that game).
     
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  8. hackncrazy Learned

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    For me, DS2 design is bad because pretty much every area is just a corridor. You never have a rewarding discovery feeling like the one when you discover the shortcut from the Church back to Firelink Shrine on DS1 or the one in Forbidden Woods back to Iosefka's Clinic in BB. And even those (and any other areas in the game) have alternative paths and secrets that are nice to uncover.

    From the fight against the Mirror Knight until the one against Velstadt, is a couple of hours that you're just following a straight line, with almost anything to do but keep going. Even on better designed areas, like The Iron Keep, they could have been done so much more giving you extra places to explore, but is just the roof and then a straight line to the bosses.

    But anyway, let's certainly agree to disagree. ;)
     
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  9. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Dude. We've all played this game. There are videos on jewtube. The only corridors are the connecting areas. Just...stop.
     
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  10. TheSentinel Arcane

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    I must say I agree with him. I have no idea what the fuck you're on about in that quote. The bolded text part is exceptionally bad in Dark Souls 2.

    I think this is present on all souls games, but much less so in DS2
    what secrets? does dark souls 2 even have any secrets or secret areas? the only thing that comes to mind is NG+ changing 1 boss location but that's it.
    what
    must have missed them

    The only thing DS2 does right is itemization. And even then, it's a "kind of". It has a lot more shit, but a lot more reused shit as well (particularly movesets), which makes finding a new weapon completely joyless.
     
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  11. sullynathan Arcane

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    Gonna get old hunters today or tomorrow but I lost all my bloodborne saves a while back and restarted. I'm past vicar Amelia now, what level should I start the DLC?
     
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  12. D_X Arcane Patron

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    Don't listen to Karhu, he's bullshiting you. Somebody punched the first boss of the DLC to death, naked at level 1 4, so you'll be fine go for it.
     
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  13. sullynathan Arcane

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    Level 48, I'm in:terminate:
     
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  14. Matador Prophet

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    The start of the DLC should be fine.

    Maybe you will encounter problems with some of the bosses. Depending on skill, of course.
     
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  15. cruel Savant

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    13,99$ right now on ps store for complete edition of this.
     
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  16. sullynathan Arcane

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    it's Yharnam again, way to reuse stuff FROM

    Sony is real gay. I bought bloodborne already so I can't buy the complete edition, I'm forced to only buy DLC which isn't on sale on it's own. I paid $21 for it
     
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  17. Black Angel Arcane

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    So I've tried playing online, but once loaded a save I got a popup telling me that I'm losing connection and then got kicked to title menu. Apparently, this was a problem in the past:
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/805577-bloodborne/71737491
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/805577-bloodborne/74092945
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/805577-bloodborne/72927193
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/805577-bloodborne/75480819

    Tried the solution posted on that last link (play offline, warp back to dream, warp to other place, warp again back to the dream, quit game, play online), and several other; no luck. Probably because I changed my router because the old one broke from a lightning strike during really bad rains. Anybody has this problem at the moment?
     
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  18. D_X Arcane Patron

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    I remember having some problems with the connection and it got fixed by remaking the internet connection from the PS4's settings. Might be worth a try, but I don't think what I had is the same thing you have.
     
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  19. Stereotypical Villain Arcane

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    Got a beginner question: Does it make any sense to go full ham in one stat in Bloodborne or can you settle for 40-ish? Kind of interested of trying to squeeze some arcane into my skill - bloodtinge build because I wanna add a bit of utility and MOTHERFUCKING TENTACLES into the mix. I wouldn't mind being given a rough template of how such a build would look either if anybody could be arsed.

    Brilliant game though. Really looking forward to getting further in to it, especially after playing the dark souls games earlier this year.
     
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  20. D_X Arcane Patron

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    Stats actually break off at 25 and 50 not at 40 like in Souls. 25/25 str/skill is OK for a quality build. For a Bloodtinge build using the Chikage I went with 40+ Bloodtinge and some 20 skill. So yeah, you can leave it at 30-40 something.

    Arcane is a different story though. The basic functionality of the Augur is that it can be used to parry and backstab. For that, you don't need scaling, just what it takes to be able to use it. If you want to start using shit like the Executioner's Gloves or milk everything out your hunter tools, mind you that Arcane has weird ass scaling that requires a lot of investment.

    Give a little more info on what weapons you're using and what Arcane tools you want.
     
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  21. Gentle Player Arcane

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    For a pure Arcane build you want to go right up to 99. It makes a tremendous difference. Other damage stats can be left at 50.
     
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  22. Stereotypical Villain Arcane

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    Fair enough. I was just curious how much the scaling in arcane mattered in Bloodborne as opposed to Dark Souls.

    Foooor... weapons... Was thinking Chikage and the Bowblade, which means that strength can be put on the backburner but if the offensive tools are gonna be next to useless with 30-ish arcane I don't really see the point in going higher than 15 for the utility tools. Alternatively I could start over and go for a strength - arcane build. I donno, I'm a sucker for magic, especially the brand of magic being pitched in Bloodborne.
     
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  23. D_X Arcane Patron

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    Chikage is a beast in trick mode with the proper Bloodtinge investment. Even with the caveat that I already knew what I was doing, with the Chikage I wrecked the end game bosses faster than with anything else I tried.

    I recommend not starting over since Blood builds are good, just put 15-18 in Arcane if you really want since that gives you Augur of Ebrietas and a couple of other Arcane items. Upgrade your pistol and carry bone marrow ash and use it to shoot shit. Bowblade is also quite fun.:terminate:

    Then you can replay it with a pure arcane build.:D
     
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  24. Black Angel Arcane

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    Yeah, trying to just turn off connection to internet and then manually setting it up again do nothing. This is definitely a problem from replacing my router.
     
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