Cain on Games - Tim Cain's new YouTube channel

[Roguey]

Fargo complained to Cain about how people are harassing him over the stolen bonus.

Regarding In-N-Out, I agree with Mr. J here

Tim liked the show but he says himself he wasn't even paying attention the dialogue. Like Rex with Hellgate London, maybe he just enjoyed the experience surrounding it (and the set and prop design).

 

[deama]

I suspect he didn't want to say anything bad, so he just focused on the stuff he liked, or at least could pretend to like.

 

[ciox]

It's pretty crazy to think that people won't just go with the flow in this type of situation.
Even James Cameron said he thought T3 was great at the time when it just came out. I also remember that Warren Spector actually did criticize the new Deus Ex games a little when he was asked for his opinion and everyone was shocked like he broke some unwritten rule (HR for having no free melee option, MD for having a trailer that's too combat focused) and was "getting out of line".

 

[Butter]

It's pretty crazy to think that people won't just go with the flow in this type of situation.
Even James Cameron said he thought T3 was great at the time when it just came out. I also remember that Warren Spector actually did criticize the new Deus Ex games a little when he was asked for his opinion and everyone was shocked like he broke some unwritten rule (HR for having no free melee option, MD for having a trailer that's too combat focused) and was "getting out of line".

Yeah it's standard for people in the industry to not publicly shit on each other's work. That doesn't stop Bethesda fans from screaming "Look, even Tim Cain liked it!" like Tim is incapable of being wrong.

 

[NecroLord]

Good Guy Tim.

 

[likash]

I binged every episode yesterday and it's... I don't really fucking know. Not gonna go into a whole rant about the TV show considering that's not the topic here but yeah.
It was carried by Walton Goggins, his performance alone made it watchable even if I was seething the entire time.
I'm curious to hear what Tim has to say.

Cletus van Damme is solid as always

 

[Saldrone]

Man i care very little less about this Fallout TV show, but talking about his opinion about it reminds me about this part of his Interview from this website:

"I did enjoy both Fallout 3 and New Vegas. I know that surprised some of my fans, who wanted me to hate the games and rail against their design choices (which I have repeatedly pointed out were different than the ones I would have made), but there is no arguing that more people enjoy the modern versions of the franchise than the older ones."

https://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=8416

 

[rojay]

I might be able to pick Todd Howard up with one hand.

 

[Sweeper]

My estimation of v*deo g*me d*velopers is continuing to plummet to previously thought impossible levels. It's like you pour your heart and soul into something, then whoever holds the IP shits all over it and you have to smile about it.
"Hehe, I don't actually care."
I remember a time when creatives used to shit all over each other and everyone else for really minor shit. They're all corporate slaves now.

 

[NecroLord]

Tim really going full retard.
Said he likes the new Fallout show and doesn't understand the criticism aimed at it and "those" who try to create new things.
Did the nigga even see what's happening on the Fallout wiki??

 

[NecroLord]

Boomer Game devs are truly fucking retarded...
Only a select few still have their brains glued to their heads and their dignity and morals intact.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Said he likes the new Fallout show and doesn't understand the criticism aimed at it and "those" who try to create new things.

That's the argument I didn't get. They're not "creating new things". They're just taking something that's been in existence for two and a half decades, tossing in "modern sensibilities", making it goofy, and coughing it up like a cat with a particularly slimy hairball.

I haven't seen it. I really have no desire to see it. About the only reason I think I would see it would be morbid curiosity, the same reason why I watched the trailer. The big problem I have with the trailer is all the years that Bethesda has flip flopped on the Brotherhood of Steel, which somewhat started with Fallout Tactics. They were practically morally grey in the first two games, they just had their own interests. They went from nearly dying out in Fallout 2 to being spread across the entire United States in everything after that. In no game after Fallout 2 did they seem "small" with maybe the exception of New Vegas. They were ridiculously large in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 with no really good explanation. Even Fallout Tactics attempted to explain why the Brotherhood was fairly large in that game, even though they probably shouldn't be. You watch the trailer and it's like, "Oh, they're the good guys again?"

 

[NecroLord]

BOS were always self righteous pricks.
Unfortunately said pricks had access to high tech and advanced military training and scientific method, making them one of the big dogs in the post nuclear wasteland (albeit they were always rather
secretive).
Honestly, they were little better than the Enclave, just lacking the whole "Let's purify the post nuclear wasteland by committing genocide on those living in it" thing the Enclave had going.

 

[REhorror]

Each day I believe Death of Authors more.

Some people don't even understand the things they write.

 

[Sweeper]

19:10
Here's your based and totally not mentally ill gay video game developer bro.
Turns out Fallout really is transcore, going all the way back to the very beginning.

 

[Gilius Thunderhead]

Tim being a faggot nerd has no bearing on what Fallout is or isn't. He made some good games when he was young, surrounded by smart and talented people, and immersed in an interesting, not completely spent culture. Many such cases in history. Now that he's no longer being worked like a slave, he's just another faggot nerd. He's not someone you look up to or ask opinions about general things.

 

[REhorror]

Tim being a faggot nerd has no bearing on what Fallout is or isn't. He made some good games when he was young, surrounded by smart and talented people, and immersed in an interesting, not completely spent culture. Many such cases in history. Now that he's no longer being worked like a slave, he's just another faggot nerd. He's not someone you look up to or ask opinions about general things.

I think a nerd still got some pride.

Tim Cain is just straight out selling out now, I'm not sure how he really feels when the camera no longer records.

 

[Gilius Thunderhead]

Aside from some very special circumstances, a nerd is defined by not having pride.

 

[REhorror]

I don't remember that being associated with nerd, but meh, whatever.

 

[Maldoror]

Tim really going full retard.
Said he likes the new Fallout show and doesn't understand the criticism aimed at it and "those" who try to create new things.
Did the nigga even see what's happening on the Fallout wiki??

Mind spoonfeeding me about what's happening on the Fallout Wiki? I'm going to guess it's just drama over the canon but I'm still interested.
I used to dick around there in 2010 - 2012, fond memories. The moderators at that time were largely very trigger-happy with the banhammer and would pretty quickly chew anyone out for thinking that Fallout 3 was good. At the same time, they were autistic spaztards in many respects, and I'm pretty confident that nobody who was around back then frequents that site any longer. They don't even have their own dedicated chat software anymore, it's just a Discord now from the looks of it.

I'm guessing it's mostly populated with Fallout 4 redditors now.

 

[StrongBelwas]

 

[NecroLord]

Tim really going full retard.
Said he likes the new Fallout show and doesn't understand the criticism aimed at it and "those" who try to create new things.
Did the nigga even see what's happening on the Fallout wiki??

Mind spoonfeeding me about what's happening on the Fallout Wiki? I'm going to guess it's just drama over the canon but I'm still interested.
I used to dick around there in 2010 - 2012, fond memories. The moderators at that time were largely very trigger-happy with the banhammer and would pretty quickly chew anyone out for thinking that Fallout 3 was good. At the same time, they were autistic spaztards in many respects, and I'm pretty confident that nobody who was around back then frequents that site any longer. They don't even have their own dedicated chat software anymore, it's just a Discord now from the looks of it.

I'm guessing it's mostly populated with Fallout 4 redditors now.

They are fighting over editing certain pages on the wiki like Shady Sands and others...

 

[agris]

Aside from some very special circumstances, a nerd is defined by not having pride.

That’s the pride talking

 

[NecroLord]

Aside from some very special circumstances, a nerd is defined by not having pride.

That’s the pride talking

He's gotta be joking...
Many of the nerds who made our beloved games are defined by their pride, they got high off their own farts.
Just look at John Romero...

 

[Roguey]

They are fighting over editing certain pages on the wiki like Shady Sands and others...

Hilarious.

They should just declare Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas Legacy Canon. Chris Avellone said as much years ago https://chrisavellone.medium.com/fallout-apocrypha-77c75954641a

If you’re looking for what’s canon and what’s not, then the actual game content from the Bethesda/Bethesda-backed titles (F3, NV, F4, 76) are the sources you should refer to (F1, F2, Tactics are not necessarily canon).

In talks with Bethesda during development, it was pretty clear that unless a franchise lore point was actually mentioned in Fallout 3+, it wasn’t confirmed to exist.

In short, I stick by “not necessarily” canon, because unless a previous Fallout element is specifically mentioned in Fallout 3, New Vegas, or 4, these elements don’t automatically exist by default.