CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Fenix]

People talking about the cuck stuff in this game. Yes, its there. The perfume someone showed. Someone told Judy was a lesbian. But the game didnt tell me she was. I had a guess but on my playthrough neither Judy nor that other chick told me about their lesbianship.

Its more subtle than in other games. Its not so syrupy, not so in other face.

Yes, it's mundane. Which makes it even worse.

 

[GewuerzKahn]

The "Gameplay cutscene" is also what gave people the impression that they could do things like go dancing, etc.

You can dance at the Totentanz (maybe other locations too).
But it gave me the impression that you could throw your weapon at enemies. That would be kinda fun.

 

[just]

i went to a club and there was no music coz of some bug
the party was still going on and i was dancing in silence

 

[Robber Baron]

i went to a club and there was no music coz of some bug
the party was still going on and i was dancing in silence

Music is on an encrypted channel for members only

 

[just]

i went to a club and there was no music coz of some bug
the party was still going on and i was dancing in silence

Music is on an encrypted channel for members only

the bartender did say that he filters out music otherwise he'd be deaf
me too friend, me too

 

[AwesomeButton]

You need to realise that on a PBR/PBS engine that you're using a pre-baked reflection map so you can only have so many light sources. Even with RTX they're still using a hybridisation approach which generates reflections over the top of a reflection map this is why it looks consistent regardless of if you're using RTX or not plus if you see what games look like with just raytracing they tend to look really artificial and sterile the reflection maps add that much needed texture to them. I can't fault them on the technique its textbook in the way its done in Cyberpunk.

Personally though I don't like to dabble in PBR because its too much handling of assets. I'm the sort of developer that just likes to be done with things and move on so I'm not a fan of the workflow but I can't fault the results in that they do look amazing when done right.
I tend to just go as far as Diffuse , Normals, AO, Emssive and Specular. Any more than that and I feel you're over doing it since you're going to be ideally putting it into atlases anyway which again is a whole other ballgame of overhandling of assets.

Game development is hard lol.

Speaking of graphics quality, don't you have the feeling that Keanu is a noticeably lower quality model than other more detailed minor and major characters? His face proportions seem off, and I even noticed yesterday that he has no eyelashes.

There is the chance that because he is based on a real person I'm more predisposed to finding the differences with the real person, but I don't know, just seems bad.

 

[Yoomazir]

2 things that have been really bothering me:
- No flashlight
- No option to change appearances in the game

I know the later is gonna be added in a patch but how 2 basic features like these aren't included since day one baffles me. Wtf happened during development...

 

[RapineDel]

The introduction, lifepaths and everything else starting off feels very undercooked.

V just darts off right away. no pre-text really, you just get put into this world without knowing anything about it.

and then ur supposed to care about jackie, watch cutscene, wow u had a great time together, suddenly you meet the best fixers ever.

it's all kind of chaotic and messy, you don't feel the progressions at the start, you're just thrown into it head first.

The rags to riches story is great, but feels tacked on here.

Agreed, I haven't done all of them part the Corp one was odd. I'd rather they didn't bother with life paths at all and just gave us a single, coherent starting point that didn't feel rushed.

I feel like they got halfway into development and realised how much more work a "realistic" setting RPG is compared to the typical sword/sorcery and started cutting as much as they could while it all fell apart around them.

A ton of the complaints centre around the city feeling empty but did these people get an alternative version of Novigrad to me in W3? That city to me was pretty similar, it looked great but there was absolutely nothing to do in it aside from play Gwent and accept quests.

The game isn't amazing but its not as bad as Reddit would have you believe, particularly when half their comments are "fuck this game I'm going back to Assassin's Creed Valhalla" which is far more generic and repetitive then this game.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

I like that Dex's gun you can loot off his body is called "Plan B".

 

[Dexter]

I can't fault the results in that they do look amazing when done right.

Nah, I actually agree. The city environment and some of the interiors are at least up there with anything we've seen so far especially with RT turned on. Those light and environment reflections on smooth surfaces do look good and there's a reason why Epic used such an environment to Demo off their RT for the first time:


The thing is that from what I've seen so far the same can not be said for landscapes, nature, distance shots that can be on par with San Andreas, background geometry outside the city is pretty laughable when you compare it with even something like Battlefield 3 and a lot of other elements are seemingly hacked together to somehow make it work like some other parts of the game so it's a bit annoying to hear that it's the "best looking game around by a mile" or similar because it renders a bunch of rectangular buildings with lights and reflections and in-door environments particularly well.

 

[Bloodeyes]

CD Projekt Red said I can have a refund but Sony's chatbot told me to fuck off. I emailed CD Projekt but I'm not really expecting that to go anywhere. It's pretty easy to virtue signal and promise a refund you don't have the power to authorize then blame Sony for a policy CD Projekt knew about before release, just like they knew about the state of the fucking game. Oh sure act like this was all a big mistake. Like nobody at CD Projekt played Cyberjunk on a ps4 and they didn't know. Bastards.

I'm so sick of greedy fucking bastards looking to take advantage at every turn. Not an original thing to say but that's kind of the problem. It can wear you down at times. I went to the dentist to get my teeth cleaned today and he only did two thirds of them and said I had to book another appointment to get the other third done because he was out of time, but he spent half the appointment fucking chatting and nobody was waiting after me. One of these days I'm going to snap and slash one of these black hearted scamming fuckers right in their smug fucking face.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

There is the chance that because he is based on a real person I'm more predisposed to finding the differences with the real person, but I don't know, just seems bad.

its definitely bad work when you consider that
1. Scan data was available
2. its even easier to create meshes off of real world people especially if you have the image planes/orthos

There's no excuse for why the model came out that bad other than Keanus involvement came very late in development and that initially Johnny resembled his 2020 self with his short hair.
I just checked the concept art. Yep Keanu was late in development Johnny looks very different he's still got long hair but no beard but he does resemble the 2020 johnny more in the concepts similar facial structure.

 

[orcinator]

CD Projekt Red said I can have a refund but Sony's chatbot told me to fuck off. I emailed CD Projekt but I'm not really expecting that to go anywhere. It's pretty easy to virtue signal and promise a refund you don't have the power to authorize then blame Sony for a policy CD Projekt knew about before release, just like they knew about the state of the fucking game. Oh sure act like this was all a big mistake. Like nobody at CD Projekt played Cyberjunk on a ps4 and they didn't know. Bastards.

I'm so sick of greedy fucking bastards looking to take advantage at every turn. Not an original thing to say but that's kind of the problem. It can wear you down at times. I went to the dentist to get my teeth cleaned today and he only did two thirds of them and said I had to book another appointment to get the other third done because he was out of time, but he spent half the appointment fucking chatting and nobody was waiting after me. One of these days I'm going to snap and slash one of these black hearted scamming fuckers right in their smug fucking face.

You get what you deserve for not being informed.
Good luck on your future genocide crusade.

 

[Robber Baron]

The game isn't amazing but its not as bad as Reddit would have you believe, particularly when half their comments are "fuck this game I'm going back to Assassin's Creed Valhalla" which is far more generic and repetitive then this game.

People are just angry they were decieved by the marketing team into thinking they could run the game.

 

[Bloodeyes]

You get what you deserve for not being informed.
Good luck on your future genocide crusade.

No. Selling a game that doesn't run is straight up fraud. It's like selling a bucket with a hole in the bottom. That's not the fault of the customer. I chose to buy on console because releasing a console game that doesn't run on the console it is being sold on is not common at all. Whatever the expected quality of the game if I'm buying for a homogenous system like a console a reasonable person can expect it to run. Having to expect fraud in every transaction is no way to live.

 

[ChildInTime]

So basically the game is in Early acces "very early indeed".
No wonder they were pushing the whole penis customization thing and having Jhon Wick aka Keanu wooden actor of the decade in the game.
They probably tought that would make everything magically disappear.
Smoke and mirrors all the way to the bank.

It's not.

Console versions are shit, I guess, but on PC while there are some funny bugs like flying weapons and npcs - nothing major, certainly not on the level of Kingmaker for example, which could not even be completed on release.

 

[Justicar]

So basically the game is in Early acces "very early indeed".
No wonder they were pushing the whole penis customization thing and having Jhon Wick aka Keanu wooden actor of the decade in the game.
They probably tought that would make everything magically disappear.
Smoke and mirrors all the way to the bank.

It's not.

Console versions are shit, I guess, but on PC while there are some funny bugs like flying weapons and npcs - nothing major, certainly not on the level of Kingmaker for example, which could not even be completed on release.

Love tards who didnt even play the game commenting on its state early acces lol, the biggest problem it has is non existent driver ai.

 

[typical user]

In all honesty I didn't experience a single crash in this game. Only one major bug which would prevent me from progressing in a quest - a door that wouldn't unlock. So the critical stuff (as critical in QA is stuff like crashes, corrupted saves, broken scripts which can't be fixed with reloading a save) are not present. The bugs are minor-major in the QA jargon. The game is Early Access but fixed so it doesn't fry your PC.

But the AI, physics, floating objects, clipping through NPCs, poor optimization. There is just too much and I can only imagine what the hell is going on PS4 and X1.

 

[AwesomeButton]

its definitely bad work when you consider that
1. Scan data was available
2. its even easier to create meshes off of real world people especially if you have the image planes/orthos

There's no excuse for why the model came out that bad other than Keanus involvement came very late in development and that initially Johnny resembled his 2020 self with his short hair.
I just checked the concept art. Yep Keanu was late in development Johnny looks very different he's still got long hair but no beard but he does resemble the 2020 johnny more in the concepts similar facial structure.

I'm pretty sure that characters like Judy, Evelyn, Dex and Jackie are also based on real people, whether tuned up later or not. Keanu on the other hand doesn't have eyelashes.

However late Keanu came to the project, he was advertised as "a second protagonist".

 

[Bloodeyes]

So basically the game is in Early acces "very early indeed".
No wonder they were pushing the whole penis customization thing and having Jhon Wick aka Keanu wooden actor of the decade in the game.
They probably tought that would make everything magically disappear.
Smoke and mirrors all the way to the bank.

It's not.

Console versions are shit, I guess, but on PC while there are some funny bugs like flying weapons and npcs - nothing major, certainly not on the level of Kingmaker for example, which could not even be completed on release.

Love tards who didnt even play the game commenting on its state early acces lol, the biggest problem it has is non existent driver ai.

Indeed. Everyone is focusing on the bugs and performance issues but the game has some of the worst AI I have ever seen in a GTA clone or a game in general. The original GTA on PS1 had better driver AI than this and the NPCs are some of the stupidest I have ever seen. NPCs in the world have 1 line of dialogue they will say to you, if that, and you can walk right through them FFS. Deus Ex NPCs felt more real than this. Not to mention how absolutely fucking basic the combat is (especially H2H, which my character was specced for). Even with good framerates and no bugs this game would be an amateurish fucking joke of an open world action game, well below the standards set by games like Red Dead 2, Ghost of Tsushima or even games like Vice City or San Andreas.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Do we know who wrote the AI?

 

[d1r]

Do we know who wrote the AI?

A woman (she/her).

 

[d1r]

You get what you deserve for not being informed.
Good luck on your future genocide crusade.

No. Selling a game that doesn't run is straight up fraud. It's like selling a bucket with a hole in the bottom. That's not the fault of the customer. I chose to buy on console because releasing a console game that doesn't run on the console it is being sold on is not common at all. Whatever the expected quality of the game if I'm buying for a homogenous system like a console a reasonable person can expect it to run. Having to expect fraud in every transaction is no way to live.

DONT. FUCKING. PREORDER.

For the 50th time.

 

[Justicar]

Do we know who wrote the AI?

Nobody.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Any man would have written a better AI. Am I right?