CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Cyberarmy]

Does the game do any job of you having to work for information? Or are just given everything on a platter and have the options to disagree/agree.

Some quests have different outcomes depending on stuff you found via hacking, reading and getting info from people.

 

[sullynathan]

Wait, are the vertical buildings with interiors everywhere still in the game? Just asking because I finished the prologue mission

 

[Reinhardt]

There really isn't all that much SJW shit in this.

Only because there is really not much OF ANYTHING in the game.

 

[AwesomeButton]

If the AI's behavior is indeed a bug, as stated in that investors conference call, then the game will be greatly improved within the next 3 months.

It's possible that they're just saying that to appease investors, though.

One bit I really enjoyed from the conference call was that apparently MS and Sony gave certification to CP77 just on CDPR's gentleman's word that the fps drops, glitches and crashes will be fixed by release day.

 

[GrainWetski]

Just shitposting and meme magic, Dragon Age was killed to appease the console crowd, so Cyberpunk being a broken mess on consoles is a spiritual payback

Sure showed them by making yet another console FPS. That's some great 'meme magic'.

 

[KVVRR]

51 hours and a complete playthough later and my biggest gripe with this game is that there's no "STOP RINGING MY FUCKING PHONE" option for the quest givers. At least give me a way to cut the call, I don't care about whatever cyberpsycho that is making a rampage close to me, I'm in the middle of a main quest for fucks sake

I really liked the endings. Jhonny's and the give up ones especially, really just shows how the city swallowed my nomad's V up whole and spit it out without any mercy. Panam's was really bittersweet by the end, especially if you actually

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get to know how long V would have left to live. 6 months isn't anything, really makes me feel bad for best girl. really having a romance in this game with these endings just seem to lead to absolute heartbreak for both judy and panam, not sure what the male romances are but I'd reckon they'll be the same.

Trying a corp playthrough now. Already a few quests in and there's an entire other way to resolve the conflict that my nomad V had no way of knowing about, took me by surprise. There might be more c & c on this game that I originally thought, although it's really early game so it might not be like this later on. We'll see.
Gonna try antagonizing Silverhand at any chance I get and see if it changes anything else too.

overall pretty good game, I'll give it a better than red dead 2/10 even with the perfomance being shit and being almost beth tier on bugs. The amount of times I died for jumping too much might be on the dozens.

 

[ChildInTime]

What this game should have been, waas basically Red Dead Redemption 2 in content and scope, but in a much cooler sci-fi setting. It failed to deliver on that.

You already have Red Dead 2 from CPR and it's called The Witcher 3. 120h+ game with lots of horse riding, eating food etc. They even cited it (RDR1) as one of the main inspirations.

What you got instead is GTA V - a pretty city with no interiors, jack-of-all-trades gameplay, short main story and lackluster side content.

At least unlike GTA V, CP77 actually has a story. I still don't remember anything about GTA V, other than it being a loosely connected random plots that go nowhere, and then abruptly ending. Kinda like The Room, but unfunny.

.................

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm still thinking about the main story, after beating the game 2 days ago.

It definitely left a very strong impression on me:

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how real/false exactly (in this setting) are the engrams? Do they have anything to do with consciousness or mind, let alone (I shudder to think about it) soul?
Is Alt in the afterlife, or is she stuck in this hellish illusory cyber "reality" until the end of time, and if so, in what part?

I guess I'm particularly sensible to that kind of stuff; after all, I consider Elon Musk one of the main enemies of humanity, with the Neuralink and so on (China dabbles in the same things of course). The very fact that IRL people don't want to burn all this shit to the ground and actually entertain idea of putting shit in their bodies, is all the dystopia you need.

I agree, the story is the main draw here, and it's done exceptionally well.

All the endings give you something to think about, be it

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personal responsibility for your decisions, the question of mortality and dealing with inevitability of death, or immortality in the context of immaterial "soul" - is V still V after being hit with the Soulkiller (be it Alt or Arasaka doing it, same thing) or just some advanced lines of code being stuck in a digital afterlife, Johnny being handed Vs body and having to live with the cards dealt to him etc. Game gave me some serious Planescape vibes.

Wait, are the vertical buildings with interiors everywhere still in the game? Just asking because I finished the prologue mission

There is a lot of verticality, but of course it's not everywhere and most of the time you will find just locked doors.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

 

[KVVRR]

Serous question, has anyone encountered something that was actually engaging on a gameplay level besides the first time they figure out a new trick that trivializes combat?

Try getting one of those implants for double jump and do parkour while shooting (or punching) the enemies. That's the only way I'd found to make the actual gameplay more fun than just decent, really. Jumping from a roof to the other so you get to a sniper, giving him a good swing and seeing you oneshot him with the gorilla hands while he makes a backflip is pretty good. Exploding their heads with a rusty shovel too.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

All i have seen from this game is some footage from cohh stream.It was stupid.

I stopped watching when he found himself in game at that point it was obvious what was going on. Its a very bad example and he kept deflecting everytime a bug happened.

 

[Delterius]

hey guys, it turns out

cdpr promised refunds before asking microsoft and sony about it

lmao

 

[J_C]

hey guys turns out

cdpr promised refunds before asking microsoft and sony about it

lmao

Sony announced the refunds themselves, so I doubt CDPR didn't ask them. As for Microsoft, I dunno.

 

[Belegarsson]

Reading the Trauma Team part reminded me of cop response in Mafia 3. Basically in that game, if you do crime in poor neighborhoods full of POC then it'd take them longer to response. This can be applied directly to this game, it actually makes sense if Trauma Team doesn't pull up to an aftermath of gangsters shooting each other in bumfuck nowhere because they can't afford TT Premium, so this system on paper is already easier to implement than in GTA, where ambulance always appears no matter who the victim is.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

One thing that catched my eye back in the teaser trailer of Cyberpunk 2077 was the police. For me the trailer hinted that the setting of the game could potentially be a cyberpunk city heavily watched over by the police (And the corpos through them). Even at the start of the game, when you are in the car with Jackie there's a moment where the special elite police MAX-TAC does appear:

But they never do later in the game in the same fashion when you are free-roaming the city. You expected them to be more present, appearing following some scum ncps in random events or even after you for killing a lot of civilians and stuff. But they barely do (I think they chase you when you reach maximum level of wanted, but I'm not sure). It's very dissapointing in that regard.

 

[mondblut]

how real/false exactly (in this setting) are the engrams? Do they have anything to do with consciousness or mind, let alone (I shudder to think about it) soul?

Imagine a clone being made of you. Is he you? He thinks he is, but you, I doubt so. Now imagine a clone being made of you, then you being killed immediately afterwards. Do you keep living in that clone? He thinks he does, but you - you are dead, replaced by an imposter.

For a third person, there is no difference between the original and the clone, and neither it is for the clone, so it's all fine. But I wouldn't wish to be the one who is being cloned.

 

[AwesomeButton]

sullynathan : https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-con...conference-call-with-the-board_14-12-2020.mp3 from 15:30

Now in terms of the certification process and the first parties ... the first parties were definetly not to ... this is on our side, and if I can say anything, then I can only assume that yes, they were counting that we would fix the things upon the release, and that obviously did not come together.

 

[Delterius]

hey guys turns out

cdpr promised refunds before asking microsoft and sony about it

lmao

Sony announced the refunds themselves, so I doubt CDPR didn't ask them. As for Microsoft, I dunno.

someone doesn't know the magical powers of sony's return policy rip J_C bro

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

Panam's was really bittersweet by the end, especially if you actually

Spoiler

get to know how long V would have left to live. 6 months isn't anything, really makes me feel bad for best girl. really having a romance in this game with these endings just seem to lead to absolute heartbreak for both judy and panam, not sure what the male romances are but I'd reckon they'll be the same.

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Was it? I thought it's the only real happy "and they lived happily ever after" ending, implying that Aldecaldos' contacts outside of California will fix his reconfigured DNA, giving him a longer lifespan. The only "bitter" thing for me was the burden of leadership for Panam, having to constantly skip dates lmao

 

[msxyz]

Reminds me of the 'Fist of Jesus'
https://youtu.be/xbKSQ0saOok

 

[KVVRR]

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how real/false exactly (in this setting) are the engrams? Do they have anything to do with consciousness or mind, let alone (I shudder to think about it) soul?
Is Alt in the afterlife, or is she stuck in this hellish illusory cyber "reality" until the end of time, and if so, in what part?

I guess I'm particularly sensible to that kind of stuff; after all, I consider Elon Musk one of the main enemies of humanity, with the Neuralink and so on (China dabbles in the same things of course). The very fact that IRL people don't want to burn all this shit to the ground and actually entertain idea of putting shit in their bodies, is all the dystopia you need.

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If we go by what Alt says engrams aren't all that sophisticated when compared to AIs in the cyberspace. She can read Jhonny so well she doesn't even need to really talk to him to know what he's going to say.
I THINK that it's something like engrams = program emulating the human mind, while AIs = actual artificial intelligence. Not necessarily human, though both have a need to survive.
So while engrams are "human" they're really just a program running on a piece of tech. True AI can move freely through cyberspace, become something more from what we see from the taxi one and Alt. I think?

is there a place that explains the tech of this setting? I'm not sure I've understood it all very well, I just know that it looked cool. There are some neat ideas too, like the blackwall.

 

[KVVRR]

Panam's was really bittersweet by the end, especially if you actually

Spoiler

get to know how long V would have left to live. 6 months isn't anything, really makes me feel bad for best girl. really having a romance in this game with these endings just seem to lead to absolute heartbreak for both judy and panam, not sure what the male romances are but I'd reckon they'll be the same.

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Was it? I thought it's the only real "happy ending", implying that Aldecaldos' contacts outside of California will fix his reconfigured DNA, giving him a longer lifespan.

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There's no way to fix V by that point - everyone has told him so, from Vic, to the people who actually made the tech, to superpowerful AI's. It might have been the stupid pink mostache I gave him at the start of the game obscuring his face but my V looked more contemplative than happy on that last scene with her.

I took it as him just accepting his fate and trying to be happy with the people he cared about instead of helplessly trying to fight it. So I guess in that sense yeah, it is the true happy ending.

 

[Gerrard]

Hurr durr the rain is just a screen filter hurr durrr from 1989.

>wet even under the overhang
Stalker Clear Sky did it better 12 years ago.

Today I learned how you spend $314 million budget.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/gaming/gaming-cars-cyberpunk-2077#1

This is fifth time this year I'm reading the same article on Top Gear.

Priorities are priorities.

It's a pity folks at Top Gear didn't try driving these cars.

What exactly is the point of wasting money on sponsored article in Top Gear? So it could attract car enthusiasts?

What is there for them? Atrocious physics? Crazy vehicles behaving possessed?

Some people here suck up on CD Projekt's apology, but it seems they still insist on deceiving potential customers.

What you might not be aware of, however, is the extent to which this game caters for lovers of all things automotive.

LOL

Even better question, who the fuck cares about current Top Gear?

 

[ChildInTime]

Panam's was really bittersweet by the end, especially if you actually

Spoiler

get to know how long V would have left to live. 6 months isn't anything, really makes me feel bad for best girl. really having a romance in this game with these endings just seem to lead to absolute heartbreak for both judy and panam, not sure what the male romances are but I'd reckon they'll be the same.

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Was it? I thought it's the only real "happy ending", implying that Aldecaldos' contacts outside of California will fix his reconfigured DNA, giving him a longer lifespan.

Spoiler

There's no way to fix V by that point - everyone has told him so, from Vic, to the people who actually made the tech, to superpowerful AI's. It might have been the stupid pink mostache I gave him at the start of the game obscuring his face but my V looked more contemplative than happy on that last scene with her.

I think by that point

Spoiler

V accepts he/she will die, just like in the rob the space casino and leave Arasaka space station endings. Only question is how and on whose terms i.e. - die while pulling off the biggest heist in history, or live his/her last days on the road with a newfound family.

 

[KVVRR]

Panam's was really bittersweet by the end, especially if you actually

Spoiler

get to know how long V would have left to live. 6 months isn't anything, really makes me feel bad for best girl. really having a romance in this game with these endings just seem to lead to absolute heartbreak for both judy and panam, not sure what the male romances are but I'd reckon they'll be the same.

Spoiler

Was it? I thought it's the only real "happy ending", implying that Aldecaldos' contacts outside of California will fix his reconfigured DNA, giving him a longer lifespan.

Spoiler

There's no way to fix V by that point - everyone has told him so, from Vic, to the people who actually made the tech, to superpowerful AI's. It might have been the stupid pink mostache I gave him at the start of the game obscuring his face but my V looked more contemplative than happy on that last scene with her.

I think by that point

Spoiler

V accepts he/she will die, just like in the rob the space casino and leave Arasaka space station endings. Only question is how and on whose terms i.e. - die while pulling off the biggest heist in history, or live his/her last days on the road with a newfound family.

yup, those are also my thoughts, should've put them in there as well from the start.

 

[Riddler]

how real/false exactly (in this setting) are the engrams? Do they have anything to do with consciousness or mind, let alone (I shudder to think about it) soul?

Imagine a clone being made of you. Is he you? He thinks he is, but you, I doubt so. Now imagine a clone being made of you, then you being killed immediately afterwards. Do you keep living in that clone? He thinks he does, but you - you are dead, replaced by an imposter.

For a third person, there is no difference between the original and the clone, and neither it is for the clone, so it's all fine. But I wouldn't wish to be the one who is being cloned.

What happens when you go to sleep? Do the current instantiation of you die just because you go lose consciousness?

If you are put under anesthesia, get cloned down to the the subatomic level and then only the clone wakes up, what then?