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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

Catacombs

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I'm eager for the Internet Historian's take on this release.
 

Turjan

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.
If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.
 

Catacombs

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Harrumph.
Eyepatch BIPOC tasks me to save BIPOC stronk wahmen doctor held captive by gang. Proceed to slay said gang members (bonus XP and street cred by headshotting each downed corpse). Engage in convo with surgeon, who insists I help her save dying bandit/captor. Comply, as I want my $$. Walk xir ass out to the car, then return to finish off thug. Game won't let me aim/shoot. Try fragging him. Immune. Fuuuuuuck. Shoot random hobo in frustration. Get instantly oneshot by NCPD sniper.
MFW I should have choked out doc and dumped her in trunk of waiting car.
Did you have an SJW-induced seizure while writing this?
 

Turjan

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I'm pretty sure that running "surprisingly well" on consoles is basically the devs being surprised it runs at all. Old news at this point.
That was my first thought when I read that headline. I'm kind of used to "corporate speak".
 

Frozen

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So i guess its



Serves them right for wanting to channel their inner Bethesda.
 

Tyranicon

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.
If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.
 

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I'm about 14 hours and am enjoying it overall. But nothing's *really* grabbing me, while there are plenty of things that annoy me. In the Witcher 3, there were so many things that I flat out didn't like (many of which make a return in Cyberpunk) but the characters, parts of the story and quests and overall atmosphere of the world really pulled me into the game.
For Cyberpunk, I expected it to be pretty janky overall so I'm not really surprised by that aspect of it. But I also expected to be more impressed regarding the writing and all of that stuff. There have been some nice moments but I dunno... the characters so far don't really do it for me, and V feels pretty damn meh. Keanu has been a complete waste so far.

Night City feels... very artificial. There are lots of nice aspect to it, love the ads, the looks of some of the clubs etc. There are nice spots. But it doesn't really come together for me. It does not feel like a city to me.
And the "encounter design", where you find combat around the city just feels incredibly uninspired. All made worse by loot system, skull enemies and all of that.

The way quests and characters get introduced to you via the phone sucks, though some of the quests are fairly nice.

I'm definitely gonna keep playing the game because it is still fun to me. But while I expected a lot of the jank present in the game, I also expected the highs to be way higher. So far, I haven't really been that invested in... well, anything in the game.
 

Perkel

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.

Nope. This is world of 77. Also you don't seem to understand Arasaka status. They effectively run Japan and Japan is one of superpowers in 77 along with europe and china i think. Europe outright is paradise compared to US while Japan is something like from BLAME where people live in boxes. Goro even says that he lived in Chiba 16 slums before Arasaka recruited child soldiers for their corpo war.

US gov for comparison broke up and only controls like half the states which often go to war with each other. Night City for example is not US territory. It is free city.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.

Actually they do. Food is huge issue in cyberpunk and most of meat for example is synthmeat there is no much trade between nations and they live more like closed off states. Night City is literally i think the most prosperous city in whole US at time of 77 and US is dying. If you play as Nomad there is one quest in which you get NOMAD tag blue text where V explains how smaller towns and villages seems to be dying faster and faster. Nomads if i remember it right are literally US farmers who were bought out via gov corruption from their farms and had to start to raid corpos for survival forming clans.

If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

Goverments do exist in Cyberpunk. Part of reason why Arasaka had to fuck off from US for a while was US government waging war on them with Militech but it lead to breakup of US and after NC declared independence Arasaka again took over. They are mostly blow up dollls for corporations which is strangely pretty fucking woke considering happenings in our world.
 
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Turjan

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.
If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.
Well, you have flying ships now. And what about the world makes you think it didn't got through an apocalyptic event?
 

Tyranicon

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.
If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.
Well, you have flying ships now. And what about the world makes you think it didn't got through an apocalyptic event?

Like an actual apocalypse, not just an apocalypse-lite. But whatever, I'm not a scientician. I'm not going to research into the hypothetical effects of the destruction of sea life and the emergence of fucking grey goo just because some writer somewhere sucks at their job.


Yeah, it's fucking r/gaming, I don't give a shit.
 

Turjan

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.
If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.
Well, you have flying ships now. And what about the world makes you think it didn't got through an apocalyptic event?

Like an actual apocalypse, not just an apocalypse-lite. But whatever, I'm not a scientician. I'm not going to research into the hypothetical effects of the destruction of sea life and the emergence of fucking grey goo just because some writer somewhere sucks at their job.


Yeah, it's fucking r/gaming, I don't give a shit.
You're looking at an established p&p RPG system here, in case you forgot. One of the earlier ones, in fact (first release 1988). I guess the game got adapted a bit because it may be a bit too retrofuturistic for today's audiences, but much of the lore stems for there. I doubt anyone today would pick Japan as the coming superpower. Or Europe...
 

Tyranicon

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.
If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.
Well, you have flying ships now. And what about the world makes you think it didn't got through an apocalyptic event?

Like an actual apocalypse, not just an apocalypse-lite. But whatever, I'm not a scientician. I'm not going to research into the hypothetical effects of the destruction of sea life and the emergence of fucking grey goo just because some writer somewhere sucks at their job.


Yeah, it's fucking r/gaming, I don't give a shit.
You're looking at an established p&p RPG system here, in case you forgot. One of the earlier ones, in fact (first release 1988). I guess the game got adapted a bit because it may be a bit too retrofuturistic for today's audiences, but much of the lore stems for there.

Is this piece of lore from Pondsmith though? Because I do not remember any of this from details of the 4th corp war, and the destruction of global maritime travel is kind of a big deal.
 

Perkel

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Well, you have flying ships now. And what about the world makes you think it didn't got through an apocalyptic event?

Maxico is radioactive wasteland. If you play aldecados questline there are bunch of veterans that explain their experience in corporate war and they effectively were 24/7 in those machines drinking nothing but ioidine fighting in radioactive wastelands. Johny aslo is veteran of war though not 4th corporate war like those from aldecado.
 

Terenty

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The whole game is fundamentally fucked when it comes to exploration, itemization and questing in the open world just like any Ubisoft turd.

The game revolves around you choosing a question mark on the map and following the yellow marker. Even if you could turn off the marker it wouldn't change a thing, you would just have to turn it back on, because it literally takes you by the nose every step of the quest ala Rockstar games.

There's zero exploration and zeron reason to tackle a quest higher than "moderate".
 

Perkel

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Harrumph.
Eyepatch BIPOC tasks me to save BIPOC stronk wahmen doctor held captive by gang. Proceed to slay said gang members (bonus XP and street cred by headshotting each downed corpse). Engage in convo with surgeon, who insists I help her save dying bandit/captor. Comply, as I want my $$. Walk xir ass out to the car, then return to finish off thug. Game won't let me aim/shoot. Try fragging him. Immune. Fuuuuuuck. Shoot random hobo in frustration. Get instantly oneshot by NCPD sniper.
MFW I should have choked out doc and dumped her in trunk of waiting car.

I just killed guy while she was helping. felt good.
 

Turjan

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.
If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.
Well, you have flying ships now. And what about the world makes you think it didn't got through an apocalyptic event?

Like an actual apocalypse, not just an apocalypse-lite. But whatever, I'm not a scientician. I'm not going to research into the hypothetical effects of the destruction of sea life and the emergence of fucking grey goo just because some writer somewhere sucks at their job.


Yeah, it's fucking r/gaming, I don't give a shit.
You're looking at an established p&p RPG system here, in case you forgot. One of the earlier ones, in fact (first release 1988). I guess the game got adapted a bit because it may be a bit too retrofuturistic for today's audiences, but much of the lore stems for there.

Is this piece of lore from Pondsmith though? Because I do not remember any of this from details of the 4th corp war, and the destruction of global maritime travel is kind of a big deal.
Honestly, this has now been such a long time ago that I don't remember all the details. i just don't see any reason to license an existing RPG system other than not having to bother with inventing lore. Even many of the characters in-game are directly lifted from the source.
 

Turjan

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If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

Goverments do exist in Cyberpunk. Part of reason why Arasaka had to fuck off from US for a while was US government waging war on them with Militech but it lead to breakup of US and after NC declared independence Arasaka again took over. They are mostly blow up dollls for corporations which is strangely pretty fucking woke considering happenings in our world.

Yes, but the game makes it abundantly clear that the position of president is pretty much a laughing matter, as far as power is concerned.
 

Mefi

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.

Yeah, that's inworld fiction as it's under the 'Literature' section. The 'Watson Whore Diary', just beneath it, is the tie-in to the advert of the bloke in leather hotpants leaning over a toilet that you see on billboards all over the city.
 

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I just killed guy while she was helping. felt good.
There was another gig that similarly railroads you. Make your way through ripper doc clinic and confront doc who obtains parts via shady means. You can play along, getting a discount, or tell him to eff off, in which case he buggers off. If you cap him before he even gets out of his chair, it's insta-NCPD swarm. I hope I didn't miss any unique chrome.
 

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