CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Tyranicon]

This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.

Nope. This is world of 77. Also you don't seem to understand Arasaka status. They effectively run Japan and Japan is one of superpowers in 77 along with europe and china i think. Europe outright is paradise compared to US while Japan is something like from BLAME where people live in boxes. Goro even says that he lived in Chiba 16 slums before Arasaka recruited child soldiers for their corpo war.

US gov for comparison broke up and only controls like half the states which often go to war with each other. Night City for example is not US territory. It is free city.

It's also kind of straightforward that the writers have no sense of scale. Maritime trade is massive and vital to not only regional economies, but also food transport. This is an apocalyptic event.

Actually they do. Food is huge issue in cyberpunk and most of meat for example is synthmeat there is no much trade between nations and they live more like closed off states. Night City is literally i think the most prosperous city in whole US at time of 77 and US is dying. If you play as Nomad there is one quest in which you get NOMAD tag blue text where V explains how smaller towns and villages seems to be dying faster and faster. Nomads if i remember it right are literally US farmers who were bought out via gov corruption from their farms and had to start to raid corpos for survival forming clans.

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Infinitely-replicating AI is basically a grey goo scenario, so there's no way in hell whatever powers that be would let it just go because "some programmers got it wrong." When I say apocalyptic, I don't mean pedestrian Mad Max like 2077 is, I mean Earth floating through space as a hivemind machine.

Additionally - destruction of nearly all sea life, unpredictable climate change, massive global upheaval, a cascade of wars for resources.

Everything should be 5000% worse than it is.

Bad. Worldbuilding.

 

[typical user]

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This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.

If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

True but you could imagine some fuck-ups would create temporary alliances. Especially the spectacular level of fuck ups.

 

[Mitleser2020]

ouch :

This is in-world fiction, right? Please tell me that's in-world fiction. That's retarded lore-building. Like they just left an infinitely-replicating mine AI just do it's thing and END ALL MARITIME trade. And the corp just gets away with it?

Wow. That's dumb on so many levels.

If the corps are the only powers that are left, there's nobody left to rule in corps but other corps. It's kind of straightforward.

Arasaka's main rival Militech was nationalized by the NUSA. Outside of Arasaka-owned Night City, they are not that powerful.

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[Robber Baron]

 

[Fenix]

So nothing, because the term is a metaphysical concept with no impact on our empirical reality.

If yes why you talk about it? And immortality is not a methaphysical concept.

 

[msxyz]

Now I understand why 3rd person was removed from the game.The animations are terrible. Not even PS1 games had this junk animations.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Damn, I leave the thread and the first thing I see after returning is people praising Fallout 4. Are you ok?

 

[Tacgnol]

Data unpackers claim there are no 3p animations for the vast majority of ingame actions. So I doubt there will be any good 3p camera mods.

I doubt CDPR will patch that in either, as it would probably mean mocapping a whole bunch of new actions.

 

[racofer]

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Yes, I'm sure the people that were laughing about it being Delayed 3 times already are the reason they released it before being finished, and not Christmas Sales and Shareholders. You see, they weren't the ones being duped into buying an unfinished product and believing borderline false Advertisement by CDPR, they're actually the ones responsible for CDPR releasing an unfinished product!

They were so rabid in their consciously built Hype over almost 8 years with a drip-feed of information and carefully placed "influencer" partnerships that they wrote Harsh comments and made Memes on the Internet. They even forced CDPR to misrepresent features and the state of their product! There was nothing the poor $11 billion company could have done, really... well now more like $8 billion.

Someone should do something against these darn consumers and hold them accountable!

That didn't age well.

 

[Perkel]

Infinitely-replicating AI is basically a grey goo scenario, so there's no way in hell whatever powers that be would let it just go because "some programmers got it wrong." When I say apocalyptic, I don't mean pedestrian Mad Max like 2077 is, I mean Earth floating through space as a hivemind machine.

Additionally - destruction of nearly all sea life, unpredictable climate change, massive global upheaval, a cascade of wars for resources.

Everything should be 5000% worse than it is.

Bad. Worldbuilding.

Not really. You assume it improves. IT can also be that this AI has tasks that and tries to do them. So for example Arasaka could programm it to stop Atlantic trade routes and AI decides only to replicate only as much as needed to stop thosetrade routes.

 

[Tyranicon]

Infinitely-replicating AI is basically a grey goo scenario, so there's no way in hell whatever powers that be would let it just go because "some programmers got it wrong." When I say apocalyptic, I don't mean pedestrian Mad Max like 2077 is, I mean Earth floating through space as a hivemind machine.

Additionally - destruction of nearly all sea life, unpredictable climate change, massive global upheaval, a cascade of wars for resources.

Everything should be 5000% worse than it is.

Bad. Worldbuilding.

Not really. You assume it improves. IT can also be that this AI has tasks that and tries to do them. So for example Arasaka could programm it to stop Atlantic trade routes and AI decides only to replicate only as much as needed to stop thosetrade routes.

According to the text, it ended all maritime travel. This meant the AI was so aggressively good at what it does that we can't even touch the ocean anymore.

Thankfully, all our points are moot, 'cause given the title of the book, I'm assuming it's in-setting fiction.

Haha, could you imagine somebody actually adding it to Cyberpunk lore? That's laughable. Not in a day and age where we could pick penis 3 for V in this modern masterpiece of a game.

 

[AwesomeButton]

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Triss, my dear, that ass is getting DESTROYED tonight!!

Here is some Necessity Over Style:

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[Tyranicon]

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Triss, my dear, that ass is getting DESTROYED tonight!!

Here is some Necessity Over Style:

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You don't look bad, you just look poor.

 

[Mefi]

My current run through isn't as clownish as it has been.

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Also, roads definitely do strange things to fps. There's one section which crushes my usual ~40 down to 15, for no apparent reason I can see.

 

[AwesomeButton]

You don't look bad, you just look poor.

I'm walking around with $60k but I can't decide what clothes to invest in, and I mean invest upgrade materials.

What's the point of having a Rare hat and a Common hat for example, if neither has an upgrade slot and the armor values are the same? From my perspective the white hat is even better, because it's cheaper to upgrade.

Here is a pic from when I was poorer: https://i.imgur.com/DTPQ6BR.jpg

 

[Hellion]

Driving past this point in the northern edges of the map

...brings up this message

...and all neighboring roads are closed and fenced off as well.

Something similar went on with Witcher 3 before Hearts of Stone expanded the game's map towards the east, so this is probably the area they will expand towards in the first expansion.

 

[wyes gull]

So I crucified a dude. Rather unconventional (?!) mission(s). Easy to imagine this being the center of a non-troversy if it weren't overshadowed by how broken the game is.

 

[Dexter]

You're looking at an established p&p RPG system here, in case you forgot. One of the earlier ones, in fact (first release 1988). I guess the game got adapted a bit because it may be a bit too retrofuturistic for today's audiences, but much of the lore stems for there.

Is this piece of lore from Pondsmith though? Because I do not remember any of this from details of the 4th corp war, and the destruction of global maritime travel is kind of a big deal.

Some Cyberpunk 2020 stuff - What America and Europe looks like in 2020 with History and Religions:

Night City:

 

[Perkel]

So I crucified a dude. Rather unconventional (?!) mission(s). Easy to imagine this being the center of a non-troversy if it weren't overshadowed by how broken the game is.

Some of sidequest are bleak as fuck. I in fact don't remember any game other than i think Arcanum and first fallout as bleak as 77 gets at times. Yesterday i had 3 of those quests one after another by the time i was finishing 3rd one i was like fuck meeeeeee i will have to take a shower.

They really did justice to "City chews you and spits you out" theme.

 

[Flying Dutchman]

I cannot believe they actively offered to refund on consoles.

I mean, that's common sense based on the Jank, but to see a developer outwardly -offer- to do that is mind-blowing.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

How many codexers are honest enough to acknowledge that Fallout 4 is objectively a much better open world action game with some RPG elements than Cyberpunk 2077 is?

CP2077 certainly does some things far better than Fallout 4, like the writing, but the vast majority of the game systems or aspects they share are in Fallout 4's favor.

Especially if you are doing a day 1 release version to a day 1 release version comparison of the two.

I think many will struggle with being able to set aside their extreme anti-Bethesda bias (often exaggerated in posts for bonus kodex kool kredits) to achieve the level of objective honesty to do so.

Fallout 4 was such a boring PoS that after maybe 5 hours and 1 quest in Far Harbor I dumped it with utter indifference.

I don't have a hate bias, but I think it's pretty objective to say, that few franchises were as r*ped as Fallout under Bethesda. The only redeeming thing that came out of it was New Vegas.

I'll prolly get retadreds for it, but Bethesda's best Fallout is post-Wastelanders 76, period. Every single aspect of that game, be it writing, worldbuilding, settlements, gameplay or actually fun weapons brought back mostly from NV (like Plasma Caster, Grenade Machinegun or Gauss Minigun). That game has better skillchecks and c&c than FO3/4 and it's a superficial MMO ffs.

 

[kalganoat]

Because they know Snoy and M$ will tell their customers to fuck off. Now the blame has been shifted away from CDPR.

 

[Darkzone]

Now I understand why 3rd person was removed from the game.The animations are terrible. Not even PS1 games had this junk animations.

So you don't know that you need a different set of animations for FP and for 3rd Person view. Let me put it short: This is due to the head attached camera.

 

[Stavrophore]

The game is more Deus Ex than the new deus exes[HR and MD] ever were. Im after the mayor quest, jesus that was fucking great. Thor Kaufman you would enjoy the conspiracy.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

No juice there tho.