CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[gurugeorge]

Also a corpo. We know Jackie from the start, it's safe to assume our begins were also humble

Corpo mentions eating real fish when he was a child, so I suppose he is from a relatively well-to-do family. The ties with Jackie are probably due to V's work in the counter-intelligence and taking part in murky business. Still, it makes little sense why he doesn't know more about the big shots in the city then, because he got quite high in the food chain.

There are a lot of "posh" assets in the game - stunning apartments and hotels, etc. Imagine if the game had been such that you had relatively different beginnings where you were "in" the 3 different paths for longer - as a Nomad, you'd be doing stuff in the country, raiding Militech convoys and all that good stuff; as a Streetkid you'd be doing stuff in the city more or less as the game is now, anti-Arasaka; and as a Corpo you'd be more involved with high level corporate and political skulduggery, hobnobbing with the rich and famous, uncovering an AI plot to break through the Blackwall, etc. Then eventually the general storylines converged in some way. Now that would have been the game the hype promised.

 

[vota DC]

The Arasaka ending is literally called the devil end. The game is passing moral judgment on you for disappointing your BFF Johnny. No place for nuance here.

There is actually room for nuance. When Misty reads your tarot, she explains that the card doesn't necessarily mean anything bad, it just means the will to survive, but also a false world. It's quite literal actually.

Spoiler

It's clear that Johnny would disapprove. He lost in that case. In his preferred ending, V's soul is killed.

It is funny because usually Devil tarot ending is when someone stole your body just like in Ogre Battle ending if you side with Galf. The evil powerhungry ending there was Death tarot.

 

[Quillon]

 

[True Ukrainian]

If you go for the Arasaka end, isn't your final mission to surrender to Arasaka? The game's clearly making it's moral judgment of you obvious.

 

[moon knight]

If you go for the Arasaka end, isn't your final mission to surrender to Arasaka? The game's clearly making it's moral judgment of you obvious.

A CyberPUNK game that makes a moral judgment if you surrender your soul and body to the personification of fascist capitalism? How dare they?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

If you go for the Arasaka end, isn't your final mission to surrender to Arasaka? The game's clearly making it's moral judgment of you obvious.

A CyberPUNK game that makes a moral judgment if you surrender your soul and body to the personification of fascist capitalism? How dare they?

I wouldn't go that far though. CDPR isn't preachy about it, just giving that route a more foreboding tone.

 

[Mefi]

There is actually room for nuance. When Misty reads your tarot, she explains that the card doesn't necessarily mean anything bad, it just means the will to survive, but also a false world. It's quite literal actually.

Spoiler

It's clear that Johnny would disapprove. He lost in that case. In his preferred ending, V's soul is killed.

The tarot cards you see as you go about are only visible to V and Johnny, aren't they? There's obviously the meta of the devs having fun with foreshadowing all over the place, in placement and in given meaning, but I couldn't make sense of why a former junkie would start telling the future in synch with a particular interpretation. Like you and gurugeorge say, the datamining has pulled out the Devil card's full description and it's "The Devil is addiction, craving and passion. He brings fame and fortune, but at the price of losing oneself to a world of material distractions. The Devil lures unsuspecting souls into traps, but always grants them a choice. One can try their luck and take him up on his offer, but one should always know when to call quits."

 

[Tyrr]

Did someone found the 2 missing cards?

 

[Mefi]

Devil is ingame but only briefly and at a point where even if you could scan it then it won't actually log as being found.

Spoiler

It's in the cube V can't solve when she's in the Arasaka ending.

Judgement the same.

Spoiler

Panam ending, in the room of the Smasher fight.

But the game files have the text for them which has been pulled out for wikis etc.

 

[Darkwind]

I'm 5 minutes in and he hasn't said a word about bad software engineering. Shit video.

Yep. It is just a ten minute rant about how bad and evil the management is and how great the developers are at their craft. There is no value to this video whatsoever.

Anybody who posts it here is just getting duped by a clickbaiting grandpa and wasting our time.

NO WAY MAN!11! We definitely need some fucking tard to come in and post a link to it again, that way we can see it linked on at least every other page of this topic. It is that good. Make sure to also include a video of the game glitching out because those are SO funny and that way I don't have to go to Reddit for my 70 IQ funny vid fix. Let's just turn this into a video linking thread for funny reddit videos actually!

 

[Darkwind]

If the shoe fits THOT... (w/ her clever santa hat, tats, and bright red lipstick, she surely is just a hardcore gamer not selling her ass on her channel right?)

Adam Smasher is my personal hero for giving THOTs immediate feedback on what they are based on how they present themselves. Evelyn was literally there as a paid whore. Smasher should have 'smashed' on the way out. #MakeMisogynyGreatAgain

 

[moon knight]

This video is quite retarded honestly.

"Let's compare The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk as RPGs: Cyberpunk has better combat, so one point to Cyberpunk. The Witcher 3 has much better C&C but only because it's longer so doesn't matter reeeee !111!!1"

 

[Turjan]

NO WAY MAN!11! We definitely need some fucking tard to come in and post a link to it again...

And then we have those others who quote the video every single time, in case anyone missed it the last 6 times or so...

 

[toro]

It the shoe fits THOT... (w/ her clever santa hat, tats, and bright red lipstick, she surely is just a hardcore gamer not selling her ass on her channel right?)

Adam Smasher is my personal hero for giving THOTs immediate feedback on what they are based on how they present themselves. Evelyn was literally there as a paid whore. Smasher should have 'smashed' on the way out. #MakeMisogynyGreatAgain

Some useless information: the chick is called Marzzzzy or Marzy or whatever and she is the stereotypical THOT.

She had a shitty job and a boyfriend. She started doing bullshit videos on utube, her simps brigade started to grow and she got a taste of easy money.

Suddenly she started doing "hardcore" gaming where she somehow managed to get only perfect builds in Dark Souls while doing blind runs

She ditched the boyfriend and the shitty job. And now she started growing her "community" on twitch.

Basically she is a despicable bitch who would do anything for money. Honestly that's normal in current year but that's not the point.

The point is that everything about her is fake. Including the outrage from the video above

 

[ADL]

Spoiler

You have to be a fucking idiot to surrender yourself to Arasaka under the condition that they can delete your engram at any time because there's no protections applied to digitized people yet. They might be willing to take the "nothing personal just business" approach to things but your deal wouldn't even be publicly known so why wouldn't they just throw you out of the airlock after you flatline?

Corpo cunts deserve the rope.

 

[Peachcurl]

Some useless information: the chick is called Marzzzzy or Marzy or whatever and she is the stereotypical THOT.

She had a shitty job and a boyfriend. She started doing bullshit videos on utube, her simps brigade started to grow and she got a taste of easy money.

Suddenly she started doing "hardcore" gaming where she somehow managed to get only perfect builds in Dark Souls while doing blind runs

She ditched the boyfriend and the shitty job. And now she started growing her "community" on twitch.

Basically she is a despicable bitch who would do anything for money. Honestly that's normal in current year but that's not the point.

The point is that everything about her is fake. Including the outrage from the video above

Now I'm genuinely curious: How do you know that?

 

[DeepOcean]

Anything that comes from social media is complete garbage, youtube gaming is infected with youtuber "reviewers" with their 01 hour essays that say fucking nothing or have average opinions that any regular retard can spew, grown men pretending they are 12 years old, drama harvesting "news" channels , thots wanting their simp corral. Nothing of good comes from there. Unfortunately, the very few people with useful content there, namely, the educational channels, as expected, have zero views.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Not to rag on the game too much, but you have to really start scraping the bottom of the barrel to find any RPG-like game with a worse itemization system than Cyberpunk. The main thing it has going for it is that a lot of the weapons are cool from an action game perspective and are fun to use. It's just that the RPG tacked on to it is very below par. Even the armor socketing system would just be a subsystem in a below average RPG. The socketing system that it plagiarizes (Diablo 2) was more involved and sophisticated. There are probably mobile games that have more complex and interesting itemization. Item progression could have been cut from the game entirely and it would have been better for it.

Maybe something similar to what happened with Ghost Recon Breakpoint. It had a progression system like Division at release, people didn't like it because it didn't fit the game's pacing, then "Immersive mode" was added which removed the gear score among other things.

 

[toro]

Some useless information: the chick is called Marzzzzy or Marzy or whatever and she is the stereotypical THOT.

She had a shitty job and a boyfriend. She started doing bullshit videos on utube, her simps brigade started to grow and she got a taste of easy money.

Suddenly she started doing "hardcore" gaming where she somehow managed to get only perfect builds in Dark Souls while doing blind runs

She ditched the boyfriend and the shitty job. And now she started growing her "community" on twitch.

Basically she is a despicable bitch who would do anything for money. Honestly that's normal in current year but that's not the point.

The point is that everything about her is fake. Including the outrage from the video above

Now I'm genuinely curious: How do you know that?

At some point I was looking for Dark Souls videos on utube, more specifically blind runs, because I wanted to see noobs doing the same retarded shit like I did.

Her videos were recommended and she had 400K+ subscribers. She is not ugly (despite the sociopath stare) and I was curious what's the fuss about.

I've noticed that her blind run was fake (perfect build, fake surprises and so on) and she was also complaining about some off-utube drama with her boyfriend.

Later she moved to twitch and she also provided some private information about her boyfriend. The reason is clear in hind-sight: single TOTHs are more successful with simps

To get back to your question: her videos are some of the first videos which made me realize that streamers's outrage and surprises are often scripted. There are very few authentic streamers which are successful.

That's why I know about her despite the fact that I didn't watch her for long. Like I've posted before, I watch twitch on background at work but I never subscribed and I will never pay for a subscription.

To be completely honest, I almost did it for Sinatar but then I'm a cheap motherfucker and he will survive without one subscription.

 

[ADL]

God fucking damn it stop posting Reddit embeds here. Almost blew my eardrums out.

 

[Tyranicon]

God fucking damn it stop posting Reddit embeds here. Almost blew my eardrums out.

People need to put them in spoilers. I'm assuming that stops it from autoplaying.

Maybe something similar to what happened with Ghost Recon Breakpoint. It had a progression system like Division at release, people didn't like it because it didn't fit the game's pacing, then "Immersive mode" was added which removed the gear score among other things.

Breakpoint is one of those games you get for free and you still feel overcharged. How in the hell it got released in its original state must be an interesting story.

Ubisoft, just because you start putting "RPG numbers" on things doesn't mean people will pay for your shitty microtransactions. Even mobile games are better at monetizing than you.

 

[msxyz]

Level scaling in this game is implemented in the worst possible way

As the official guide also implies, different areas have different min-max stat for goons and loot. If you go too early to ceratain areas (i.e. corpo plaza) you'll get slaughtered. At the same time, if you delay certain quests in low level areas, they'll become extra easy, so this kind of defeats the purpose of level scaling which is to offer a challenge that if matched to the player capabilities. There's also another aspect. If you're able, early in the game, to defeat a goon in a high difficulty area (like the already mentioned corpo plaza) the dropped weapons will have a minimum level far above yours and won't be usable. This, of course, because the whole character progression is shit relying mostly on insane increase of the weapons stats.

 

[Darkwind]

God fucking damn it stop posting Reddit embeds here. Almost blew my eardrums out.

I've been hammering on this for 20+ pages but the faggots that love this mouth-breathing redditry put their "No, Up Yours, etc." replies because they are determined to turned this place into another Resetera apparently.

 

[Fedora Master]

God fucking damn it stop posting Reddit embeds here. Almost blew my eardrums out.

Use a script blocker nigger, I've never had autoplay issues in the thread.

 

[Tyrr]

God fucking damn it stop posting Reddit embeds here. Almost blew my eardrums out.

NoScript is blocking all that shit for me.