CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Manjuice Nutella]

And, unless I mix it up, another example is the Riot club.
When Johnny takes over and goes there, it's a brightly lit neon stripclub (and when he has an accident after driving a few minutes he is still in front of it, because...reasons), but when the player gets access to it, it's a dim lit industrial club with a stage.
Because the interior was made for Kerry's mission (and reused for Lizzy)

I had no music when I got there as well. And the bartender was complaining that he needed sound filtering implants to survive lmao

(I assume the music is Samizdat Radio, which is also funny, because that radio station consists of a total of 5(five) songs all by the same DJ)

 

[Bliblablubb]

Funniest part about that club is when you use the cameras: look at the DJ on stage, switch to the camera outside, switch back and... omg, a new DJ already! Didn't I see her outside 2 seconds ago?

 

[Haplo]

While she slept no less! And in the end it didn't work and she spawns a SAM and shoots it down. Why not just start with that?

Well, to be honest, it did affect the AV. It probably might have used countermeasures against that rocket attack, were it not for the EMP pulse.

 

[Haplo]

That reminds me: has anyone played that mission without 10 tech?
For me that line replaced the yellow line and the dialog later did not really match what was happening. Johnny was ranting in the car to get away while we were already far away as if EMP burst were hitting us. Does something like that happen if you DON'T have the tech to ovenload it inside?

I did. You still overload it. Only V suffers a surge from each breaker/whatever. Eventually he's hardly able to move on his own.

 

[Gargaune]

That reminds me: has anyone played that mission without 10 tech?
For me that line replaced the yellow line and the dialog later did not really match what was happening. Johnny was ranting in the car to get away while we were already far away as if EMP burst were hitting us. Does something like that happen if you DON'T have the tech to ovenload it inside?

I think my Tech was lower when I did that mission but I don't know exactly what's supposed to change. I went in, pressed some buttons (shocker, I know), then started getting distortions and Silverhand freaking out as we drove away.

P.S. Just for you.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

BTW, if you decide to leave Silverhand in V(alerie)'s body, does it mean he is a tranny?

 

[Danikas]

And, unless I mix it up, another example is the Riot club.
When Johnny takes over and goes there, it's a brightly lit neon stripclub (and when he has an accident after driving a few minutes he is still in front of it, because...reasons), but when the player gets access to it, it's a dim lit industrial club with a stage.

Nah you mix it up the club johnny goes to is called Empathy there is a gig that takes place there too.

 

[Bliblablubb]

I did. You still overload it. Only V suffers a surge from each breaker/whatever. Eventually he's hardly able to move on his own.

So it is exactly the same with or without the tech line.
To quote Johnny: "Look at me! This is my face of utter fucking surprise!"

 

[Bliblablubb]

BTW, if you decide to leave Silverhand in V(alerie)'s body, does it mean he is a tranny?

And if your Valerie had a peanus to begin with, have you come full circle?

Reminds me of Mr "impressive cock"s line: "Your parts are either too small or too big."
I am sorry that her peanus intimidates you dude, at least Rogue did not complain.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

Fuck that Oda guy!! "shimEEE... shimmmEEY.... SHIMEEEEYY!!"

Spoiler

His fight really emphasizes how sluggish and and awkward movement is, avoiding his melee attacks with dodge is excruciating, feels like V is stuck in quicksand the whole fight. Oda finally bugged out at around 20% health and got stuck in mid air so I could just nail him in his stupid face with my gigantic sniper rifle. I guess I got lucky that he bugged out next to a platform so I could actually reach him to interact and continue mission.

For all this suffering, you could have just positioned himself from him behind one of those walls

At this stage of the game, Act 3, drives home how schizophrenic the design is. The "you are about to die, main quest is urgent, URGENT" is laid on really thick, I feel like doing anything other than finishing the game completely destroys any verisimilitude with the character and the story. But I could spend another 40 hours bumbling around Night City doing peoples laundry and rescuing stray cats...

This shit has gotta stop, if you wanna make 100+ hour open world game STOP making 'world is ending, or I am dying' main quests, do something that actually fits with narrative flow of open world design.

:brofist:

It's the same in almost every modern open world game now, starting from Witcher 2's "I need to rescue Triss ASAP, clock is ticking" and TW3 obviously all the way. And then you have, among others, "BOSS we received a contract to extract a prisoner from execution/Cipher's caravan is on its way/there's no telling(...)", "Orthur, you need to rescue Sean/John/Micah/Reverend/Tilly/the X is tonight", "I need to find Dad ASAP/Shaun ASAP/2nd Battle of Hoover Dam can happen any moment now!"

All of that just makes you appreciate Fallout 1's honesty. "You have X days and that's it."

 

[Bliblablubb]

Nah you mix it up the club johnny goes to is called Empathy there is a gig that takes place there too.

Might be. Haven't been to that one yet, but since he ended outside Riot, I assumed he came from there. Welp, that explains how he did't get far in the car then.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

 

[Justicar]

Gabenoid has spoken

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell...hat-were-going-to-be-announcing/#comment-jump

"All I know is that there are a lot of very happy gamers in the PC space, which are the ones that are most visible to us," Newell said. "There are aspects of the game that are just brilliant, and it shows a tremendous amount of work. It's unfair to throw stones at any other developer, because just getting something as complex and ambitious as that out the door is pretty amazing. The PC version that I played, I had a lot of fun playing."

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Gabenoid has spoken

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell...hat-were-going-to-be-announcing/#comment-jump

"All I know is that there are a lot of very happy gamers in the PC space, which are the ones that are most visible to us," Newell said. "There are aspects of the game that are just brilliant, and it shows a tremendous amount of work. It's unfair to throw stones at any other developer, because just getting something as complex and ambitious as that out the door is pretty amazing. The PC version that I played, I had a lot of fun playing."

I'll take three copies!

 

[msxyz]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

I played it at release. In fact, if I remember correctly, I even preordered the Witcher 1. I do rember following news of this game from this unknown (at the time) developer for a few years (first screenshots / concept art came out in 2002 or 2003).

I don't remember any game breaking bug, maybe I was lucky

 

[Bliblablubb]

I'll take three copies!

Hey, that's what Gabe always says as well.... when the waitress brings his lunch.
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Sorry.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

I played it at release. In fact, if I remember correctly, I even preordered the Witcher 1. I do rember following news of this game from this unknown (at the time) developer for a few years (first screenshots / concept art came out in 2002 or 2003).

I don't remember any game breaking bug, maybe I was lucky

Guess you are also one of those didn't have any issues like Cyberpunk 2077 and it ran like a dream 110% of the time

 

[msxyz]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

I played it at release. In fact, if I remember correctly, I even preordered the Witcher 1. I do rember following news of this game from this unknown (at the time) developer for a few years (first screenshots / concept art came out in 2002 or 2003).

I don't remember any game breaking bug, maybe I was lucky

Guess you are also one of those didn't have any issues like Cyberpunk 2077 and it ran like a dream 110% of the time

If you read my past posts in this thread, you'll see this is far from true.

 

[toro]

Game dead already!?

 

[typical user]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

They do, their management does not.

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

I played it on day 1 in 2007 and don't remember anything, though maybe 3 patches were downloaded in the background during those hours of loading screens lmao. I replayed it recently, like W2 and halfway through 3 now with Enhanced Edition, but installed a mod "FCR" and THAT is unplayable, oh dear.

I just have luck I guess. CP2077 was fine, just microissues minor bugs that every big release has nowadays. Day 1 New Vegas was also stellar, "obsidian buggy lmao" buzzword was cringy for me back then in 2010.

Ok, RDR2 on day 1 PC could not start at all, but so it could not for 99% of customers

 

[Turjan]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

I played it on day 1 in 2007 and don't remember anything, though maybe 3 patches were downloaded in the background during those hours of loading screens lmao. I replayed it recently, like W2 and halfway through 3 now with Enhanced Edition, but installed a mod "FCR" and THAT is unplayable, oh dear.

I just have luck I guess. CP2077 was fine, just microissues minor bugs that every big release has nowadays. Day 1 New Vegas was also stellar, "obsidian buggy lmao" buzzword was cringy for me back then in 2010.

Ok, RDR2 on day 1 PC could not start at all, but so it could not for 99% of customers

Yes, I never played the Enhanced Edition of Witcher 1, only the release version, and I don't remember any serious issues. Finished that game without problems and liked it, boring swamp aside. What I remember is that the town had like the same six NPC's walking around. There you had finally a town in a game that actually looked like a real European old town, and then the cut corners somewhat diminished that impression. Plus, it was just a facade. Reminds me of something.
But yeah, "borderline unplayable" is hyperbole. And yes, I'm someone who had hardly any technical issues with Cyberpunk 2077, either. My issues here are on the AI or design side.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

I played it on day 1 in 2007 and don't remember anything, though maybe 3 patches were downloaded in the background during those hours of loading screens lmao. I replayed it recently, like W2 and halfway through 3 now with Enhanced Edition, but installed a mod "FCR" and THAT is unplayable, oh dear.

I just have luck I guess. CP2077 was fine, just microissues minor bugs that every big release has nowadays. Day 1 New Vegas was also stellar, "obsidian buggy lmao" buzzword was cringy for me back then in 2010.

Ok, RDR2 on day 1 PC could not start at all, but so it could not for 99% of customers

Yes, I never played the Enhanced Edition of Witcher 1, only the release version, and I don't remember any serious issues. Finished that game without problems and liked it, boring swamp aside. What I remember is that the town had like the same six NPC's walking around. There you had finally a town in a game that actually looked like a real European old town, and then the cut corners somewhat diminished that impression. Plus, it was just a facade. Reminds me of something.
But yeah, "borderline unplayable" is hyperbole. And yes, I'm someone who had hardly any technical issues with Cyberpunk 2077, either. My issues here are on the AI or design side.

Witcher 1 was a disaster for many, I had the game constantly crashing when auto saving. Can't remember the npc's name, but the npc didn't appear for a main story quest, which forced me to start over, having a quest item but the game not registering that I have the item. But CDPR fanboys ofcourse see no fault with any of their games whatsoever. Graphics glitches etc, etc. Still powered through the issues and I still think it's CDPR's best game. But I do feel that other devs get too much of a free pass when it comes to bugs. Obsidian comes to mind

 

[Manjuice Nutella]

Yes, I never played the Enhanced Edition of Witcher 1, only the release version

By the way, from what I've experienced, Enhanced version only changed 2(two) of those "generic model" NPCs to... recolors of them Carmen and someone else.

 

[Latelistener]

CDPR has never been know for quality of their product when it releases. Seems no one played Witcher 1 on release. And I don't mean Witcher 1 : Enhanced Edition. Vanilla Witcher 1 was borderline unplayable, combat was broken, quests were broken and even all the patches it got still didn't fix it. Enhanced Edition is how it should have launched. Cyberpunk 2077 is just CDPR simply just reminding us that they don't give a shit about the quality of their products.

I played it on release and the only issue I remember is long loading times.

Yes there were others, but comparing this to CP2077? Are you out of your mind? They were developing Witcher longer than CP and it was a 50 hours RPG.

Witcher 2 is what you should be comparing CP to. It's a much small game though, was easier to fix and it only came out on PC first. So there wasn't much butthurt about the fact that they were selling an alpha version and Enhanced Edition was in fact the release version of the game. Although idiots were praising this as free content. By this logic every dev that manages to pull his game out of Early Access is a messiah.

Just for comparison, Witcher 1 had an intro cinematic on release and Witcher 2 got one only after Enhanced Edition.