CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[DeepOcean]

Investors didnt like CDPR replacing Cyberbug online with Witcher 76.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Investors didnt like CDPR replacing Cyberbug online by Witcher 76.

Witcher 76 would be an improvement over what you're going to get.
You guys remember the Witcher MOBA, right?

 

[Bliblablubb]

After giving it another approach, I actually managed to trigger the StreetKid quest for an originally Nomad character. Instead of trying to understand potatologic, I just did it the 'murican way and carpet bombed the savegame by setting EVERY trigger from the StreetKid prologue. Just kill'em all, the right one will be among them amirite?
"It just works!" (tm)

Of course my venture would not have of been complete, if I didn't reencounter an old bug still not fixed, like a distant cousin you never liked pestering you on a family gathering: While trying to skillfully sneakbash someones face, I discovered I could not draw any weapons or throw grenades anymore. Going back through older savegames showed the bug was present for at least 2 hours. I feel a little sorry for the average little consoltarg encountering this bug, since all you can get from the internets, including CDPR's forum staff, are the usual "we have no idea" answers like "restart your pc/console" or "check your files integrity". The bug is IN the savegame, no amount of restarting will change that.
Many sweet sad tears must have of been shed thanks to having lost hours of gameplay through this. Sad.

Thankfully I played Bethesda games, and playing those games is learning to identify every stupid amateurish sloppy bug and work around it. It was obivious that one was the result of a "save zone" script not having properly ended, because coders had such an unshakable trust in their laggy engine, they didn't bother putting in kill timers or backup checks for such a gamebreaking restriction. Bethesda style.
So, similar to the Bethesda animation bug, you just have to "reapply" the script again, then letting it run out normally. A normal person would have of done a single script for save zones, being applied whereever you are. But we are talking potatologic here again, so of course they had an individual script for every bar, appartment or {{{safespace}}} in the game. Turns out it was Lizzie's. Entering and leaving properly ended it.

See, playing Bethesda games is educashunal! But don't tell Todd, he would get the funny idea to go and charge players money for that privilege.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Is it true that the updates this game has received since launch silently remove nudity and censor the game in other ways?

 

[typical user]

Is it true that the updates this game has received since launch silently remove nudity and censor the game in other ways?

Your character is wearing underwear (but not bra) in normal game. You can only see him/her fully nude in inventory screen. Also side-characters were missing underwear (Evelyn Parker or Hanako Arasaka for example). I wouldn't say they have censored stuff. More like fixed missing clothes which also affected player character somehow.

The game still has ads with full nudity, same for sex scenes.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Is it true that the updates this game has received since launch silently remove nudity and censor the game in other ways?

Your character is wearing underwear (but not bra) in normal game. You can only see him/her fully nude in inventory screen. Also side-characters were missing underwear (Evelyn Parker or Hanako Arasaka for example). I wouldn't say they have censored stuff. More like fixed missing clothes which also affected player character somehow.

The game still has ads with full nudity, same for sex scenes.

I personally also remember NPCs often missing underwear and stuff which were added in a patch. There's even a mod that attempts to remove them again, though I agree that this is probably mostly a fix rather than censorship. I also saw a video where the dancer in the room where you meet evelyn parker first was removed, but that could be due to a bug.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Who plays this game still? I thought this thread was dead and buried. They need to remake the game from scratch. They're probably halfway through Witcher 4 by now, it's the only way they'll be around as a company.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

A vid praising the game's style of exposition:

 

[rusty_shackleford]

A vid praising the game's style of exposition:

At this rate their shill budget is going to be higher than the development budget

 

[Heroic Liberator]

At this rate their shill budget is going to be higher than the development budget

Vid guy isn't really shilling, but praising the few highs of the game only makes the many lows suck that much more.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Days until CP2077 matches the same length of time as it took for CDPR to release Hearts of Stone after releasing Witcher 3:
-212

Days until CP2077 matches the same length of time as it took for CDPR to release Blood & Wine after releasing Witcher 3:
19

 

[KVVRR]

Are they ACTUALLY developing DLC expansions for this game? I haven't heard a single thing about it.

 

[somewhatgiggly]

Are they ACTUALLY developing DLC expansions for this game? I haven't heard a single thing about it.

We really don't know. We can't stop them if they decide to cut losses, give the console fucks their shiny patch, then declare mission accomplished and move on. They say they want to put DLC out there, but now I'm seeing something in the vein of one paid expansion...probably trying to recoup some cash.

 

[Bliblablubb]

Is it true that the updates this game has received since launch silently remove nudity and censor the game in other ways?

Your character is wearing underwear (but not bra) in normal game. You can only see him/her fully nude in inventory screen. Also side-characters were missing underwear (Evelyn Parker or Hanako Arasaka for example). I wouldn't say they have censored stuff. More like fixed missing clothes which also affected player character somehow.

The game still has ads with full nudity, same for sex scenes.

I personally also remember NPCs often missing underwear and stuff which were added in a patch. There's even a mod that attempts to remove them again, though I agree that this is probably mostly a fix rather than censorship. I also saw a video where the dancer in the room where you meet evelyn parker first was removed, but that could be due to a bug.

It's always hard to say in this game what is a bug or and intentional change, but they seem to sneakily tone it down.
The "censorship" in this game is a weird one tho. To me it seems as if they tried to make censorship easy to implement so they can sell it even in countries where nudity is a problem, notable during scenes in the main quests everyone will experience.
But like everything else, they are not following a clear line. V always showers with panties on, so nobody has to accidently see it, but during Johnny's sex scene with Alt, while she never takes her bra off (even pours the tequilla on it ) as if it was censorship, she wears NO panties. While sitting with her legs spread, giving you full view of her modelled lady parts, with an added bonus of horrible flickering texture borders. Wut.
Then we have Lizzies bar, a weird clusterfuck rivalling FO4's Institute, as if they couldn't make up their minds what it IS supposed to be. Apparently you can only watch BDs there, no touching the girls. But the Mox are supposed to be working girls, as a random scene has a new Mox defending her career choice to her dad that she rather chokes on cocks than industrial dirt. There are about 20 Mox girls in the bar during day resting, telling you "I am off the clock baby". What DO they do? Judy even says the compiles BDs the girls scroll there, having to filter out the customers thoughts and all that.
When I visited it in 1.31, Judy's sideroom now has just a couch and table, but I am pretty sure that it was a bedroom in earlier version, because I remember thinking Judy was scrolling porn down there. Even in Clouds you can only "witness" some fetish play. Nice and tame.
As if they tried to tone it down for a lower rating later, similar to Bethesda when they made FO4 a Disney game compared to FO3.
Evelyn is another weird conundrum. When we meet her she is a charismatic good looking high class escort, a mysterious dame from a film noir. But not doll material. Dolls are braindead airheads that need to be remote controlled to be useful, the game makes sure to show you that before/after effect twice. No skill or personality required....
The whole Clouds thing feels like a rewritten story as well. Evelyn's voice actress has no further lines after the scenes heavily featured in trailers and demos (and the voodoo bois BD). They could have made her the mayor's daughter as well and it would have fit.

And those 2 (+2) useable joytoys they tacked on... a joke. A bone. "Look how oversexed our game is!" And easy to disable. Remove those, cut Meredith's easter egg, fade to black during sidequests... "See, no prostitution or even sex in our game at all!"
Wooosh, instant PEGI13, welcome to Walmart.


I wonder how that next gen version will look like...

 

[Bliblablubb]

Funfact: V's panties during shower are an invisible equipped clothing item in her inventory. If you switch censorship on, she gains a second pair she wears on top of it.

Likewise she carries an invisible cutscene pistol, that she whips out when needed. More hillariously, you actually automatically wield it if the Maelstromers turn hostile through the cutscene during "The Pickup". Normally you wouldn't notice it, since players are meant to rush through those quests before getting other weapons. But if you cleared Watson first, you might wonder why your pistol does barely any dmg... until you realize it's a lvl1 gun, trying to take on lvl scaled enemies.

Bonus points if you are playing on higher difficulty while having a similar gun in your inventory, so you DON'T realize it. Until you die.

 

[Zeriel]

Is it true that the updates this game has received since launch silently remove nudity and censor the game in other ways?

Your character is wearing underwear (but not bra) in normal game. You can only see him/her fully nude in inventory screen. Also side-characters were missing underwear (Evelyn Parker or Hanako Arasaka for example). I wouldn't say they have censored stuff. More like fixed missing clothes which also affected player character somehow.

The game still has ads with full nudity, same for sex scenes.

I personally also remember NPCs often missing underwear and stuff which were added in a patch. There's even a mod that attempts to remove them again, though I agree that this is probably mostly a fix rather than censorship. I also saw a video where the dancer in the room where you meet evelyn parker first was removed, but that could be due to a bug.

It's always hard to say in this game what is a bug or and intentional change, but they seem to sneakily tone it down.
The "censorship" in this game is a weird one tho. To me it seems as if they tried to make censorship easy to implement so they can sell it even in countries where nudity is a problem, notable during scenes in the main quests everyone will experience.
But like everything else, they are not following a clear line. V always showers with panties on, so nobody has to accidently see it, but during Johnny's sex scene with Alt, while she never takes her bra off (even pours the tequilla on it ) as if it was censorship, she wears NO panties. While sitting with her legs spread, giving you full view of her modelled lady parts, with an added bonus of horrible flickering texture borders. Wut.
Then we have Lizzies bar, a weird clusterfuck rivalling FO4's Institute, as if they couldn't make up their minds what it IS supposed to be. Apparently you can only watch BDs there, no touching the girls. But the Mox are supposed to be working girls, as a random scene has a new Mox defending her career choice to her dad that she rather chokes on cocks than industrial dirt. There are about 20 Mox girls in the bar during day resting, telling you "I am off the clock baby". What DO they do? Judy even says the compiles BDs the girls scroll there, having to filter out the customers thoughts and all that.
When I visited it in 1.31, Judy's sideroom now has just a couch and table, but I am pretty sure that it was a bedroom in earlier version, because I remember thinking Judy was scrolling porn down there. Even in Clouds you can only "witness" some fetish play. Nice and tame.
As if they tried to tone it down for a lower rating later, similar to Bethesda when they made FO4 a Disney game compared to FO3.
Evelyn is another weird conundrum. When we meet her she is a charismatic good looking high class escort, a mysterious dame from a film noir. But not doll material. Dolls are braindead airheads that need to be remote controlled to be useful, the game makes sure to show you that before/after effect twice. No skill or personality required....
The whole Clouds thing feels like a rewritten story as well. Evelyn's voice actress has no further lines after the scenes heavily featured in trailers and demos (and the voodoo bois BD). They could have made her the mayor's daughter as well and it would have fit.

And those 2 (+2) useable joytoys they tacked on... a joke. A bone. "Look how oversexed our game is!" And easy to disable. Remove those, cut Meredith's easter egg, fade to black during sidequests... "See, no prostitution or even sex in our game at all!"
Wooosh, instant PEGI13, welcome to Walmart.


I wonder how that next gen version will look like...

Yeah, it's pretty evident that the new neo-puritanism going through Western culture had an effect on them. It's ironic because in the game's setting sex is supposed to be super common place & as boring as walking down the street to us, but it's all filtered through the actual, left-wing puritanism of our current culture. So those things are there, but they're afraid to touch on them much, and it's left almost entirely as window dressing. There's ads... and... that's about it.

It's like Muslims making a game about cooking bacon.

 

[Bliblablubb]

Funfact 2: the game does actually have "unlimited" level scaling outside missions it seems.
While trying to check if gorilla arms still have the door open animation, I fast traveled to a former gig in Watson, forgetting I had set my level to 40 for testing reasons.
After leaping very enthusiastically over a fence I couldn't help but notice Maelstrom having fully respawned. So I thought: "Have fun eating Gor- Goli-... shocking monkey fists suckers!"
That quickly turned into a weak yelp for halp while I was desperately spamming X to not die. Even though I had stacked Armadillo to (my former) lvl 20 max, they tore through me like my Katana went through Flacide. Like, totally ouch, duh!

I guess you gotta entertain players somehow after they beat the game at least 7 time when you have no multiplayer.

 

[Bliblablubb]

And on a sidenote: boxing matches are still unplayable, even with Gorilla arms, blocking still does not negate enemy dmg.
Thankfully ye olde exploit feature still works: drop a baseball bat and equip-pickup it during the fight. Melee weapons DO block the dmg properly.

 

[Starwars]

Alright, I'm gonna have to ask you guys to step away from this game you don't like and spend some time with a game you actually do like for a while. I know it's hard but believe me, it's actually worth the effort.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

game you actually do like

Where the hell am I gonna get one of those

 

[mediocrepoet]

game you actually do like

Where the hell am I gonna get one of those

Start here, I have it on good authority that they're great.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

good authority

Lol

 

[Bliblablubb]

good authority

Lol

Unless "good authority" is the new political correct way of saying "Kriticool Kodex Konsensus", I am not sold.

My interest is kinda sorta piqued tho, since I remember playing the original version of those games, good to see combat still happens in that turnbased chessboard fashion. And they will always have a speshul place in my memory for... enemies dropping EVERYTHING they had equipped, massive incline over the usual random crap.

 

[mediocrepoet]

good authority

Lol

Unless "good authority" is the new political correct way of saying "Kriticool Kodex Konsensus", I am not sold.

My interest is kinda sorta piqued tho, since I remember playing the original version of those games, good to see combat still happens in that turnbased chessboard fashion. And they will always have a speshul place in my memory for... enemies dropping EVERYTHING they had equipped, massive incline over the usual random crap.

Disclaimer: No representations are made regarding the veracity of anything posted in the CP2077 thread by any user, including this one. Pursue advice whether explicit or implied at your own risk.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Unless "good authority" is the new political correct way of saying "Kriticool Kodex Konsensus", I am not sold.

It's the most recommended game on codex.