CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Better things to be than a blinking red light, really.

Says YOU.

 

[Mefi]

The biggest problem is when you are using hdd for this game and guess what those shitboxes have on board, I say it all the time people saying that it looks like shit are retarted, there are many problems with the game but graphics aint one of them, the biggest problem is shitty police system and non existent vehicle ai but I didnt expect anything else from cdpr in this regard.

Ah interesting, thank you. One could link performance to graphics I suppose, and anyone chasing fps is going to pay a tax on that with this. But I found 40/50 fps more than ample to play so long as it was steady. Definitely agree that graphics just aren't an issue beyond that on PC at least. Scripting for AI behaviour is definitely either unfinished or poorly thought through. Can see it with other AI NPC interactions - like bumping into one and crowds of people starting to yell 'Psychopath' at you and huddle crouched on the floor. Not the best.

 

[KK1001]

Game has serious problems, but retards thinking this would be like GTA are delusional. Anyone with half a brain could intuit that the gameworld was largely non-interactive, fragile window dressing, just like the Witcher 3.

Anyone who bought this game for PS4 or Xbone after the entire game was delayed because of "problems getting it to run, like, at all," on those systems has only themselves to blame. I'm pissed at CDPR for not just cutting out last gen consoles entirely, but alas, $$$.

 

[Fedora Master]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

 

[Taxnomore]

Bug compilation videos are ideal to make you believe the game is a constant bug mess.

I have had 5 five minor glitches in a total of 11 hours of gameplay.
With updated Nvidia drivers and patches, I'm now reaching stable 30 FPS on GTX 980 on Ultra. A 6 y.o graphic card.
You can reach 60 FPS on low easily and it still looks okay.
Please tell me more about how this game is completely broken.

 

[Konjad]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

Deus Ex asked intelligent questions and went philosophical in clever ways. Even new Deus Exes were good at it.

Cyberpunk is just a wacky silly story.

 

[Fedora Master]

SO THEN, DID YA'LL HEAR ABOUT THE KUJIRA?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Better things to be than a blinking red light, really.

Says YOU.

Could be not blinking, for starters.

 

[Taxnomore]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

Deus Ex asked intelligent questions and went philosophical in clever ways. Even new Deus Exes were good at it.

Cyberpunk is just a wacky silly story.

Augs live matter.

 

[Justicar]

There is funny vtmb easter egg on the radio, Mike pondsmith is the radio host and he is talking about how vampires secretly rule night city even the sarcophagus is mentioned.

 

[Mefi]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

I'm going to offer mitigation for that because Cyberpunk 2020 is a superficial take on cyberpunk and staying true to that is what gets you the nonsense conversations with Dex and Jackie about glory followed by an investigation into sex slavery and snuff movies as a tick box exercise straight after. Fully agree with your take and on how poor it is. It's 'how cool would it be to have Keanu Reeves in your head? Very cool or so cool you'd explode?'. So you've got a very superficial setting by design and choice, not Gibson asking where the boundaries of reality are, and who is policing them, nor even Dick playing about with the idea of 'can you tell a disabled person from a robot well enough not to shoot both?'.

 

[Fenix]

For me, the only joy that Cyberpunk2077 delivered was vids like this.

 

[Fedora Master]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

I'm going to offer mitigation for that because Cyberpunk 2020 is a superficial take on cyberpunk and staying true to that is what gets you the nonsense conversations with Dex and Jackie about glory followed by an investigation into sex slavery and snuff movies as a tick box exercise straight after. Fully agree with your take and on how poor it is. It's 'how cool would it be to have Keanu Reeves in your head? Very cool or so cool you'd explode?'. So you've got a very superficial setting by design and choice, not Gibson asking where the boundaries of reality are, and who is policing them, nor even Dick playing about with the idea of 'can you tell a disabled person from a robot well enough not to shoot both?'.

That's the impression I got from reading the source material too. "WOAH HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF A BUNCH OF PUNK ROCKERS FOUGHT THE ESTABLISHMENT DUDE??!!"
But even that's something the game doesn't get right. There ain't no punk rock to be found here.

e: Sure would be cool if you had any idea what the radio stations are actually about. Something like... I dunno, a cool guy behind a mic who talks about the music he's playing? He could manually change tracks, too. Like some sort of disc... changer.

 

[orcinator]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

I'm going to offer mitigation for that because Cyberpunk 2020 is a superficial take on cyberpunk and staying true to that is what gets you the nonsense conversations with Dex and Jackie about glory followed by an investigation into sex slavery and snuff movies as a tick box exercise straight after. Fully agree with your take and on how poor it is. It's 'how cool would it be to have Keanu Reeves in your head? Very cool or so cool you'd explode?'. So you've got a very superficial setting by design and choice, not Gibson asking where the boundaries of reality are, and who is policing them, nor even Dick playing about with the idea of 'can you tell a disabled person from a robot well enough not to shoot both?'.

That's the impression I got from reading the source material too. "WOAH HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF A BUNCH OF PUNK ROCKERS FOUGHT THE ESTABLISHMENT DUDE??!!"
But even that's something the game doesn't get right. There ain't no punk rock to be found here.

e: Sure would be cool if you had any idea what the radio stations are actually about. Something like... I dunno, a cool guy behind a mic who talks about the music he's playing? He could manually change tracks, too. Like some sort of disc... changer.

At some point the voice acting budget had to run out.

 

[Mefi]

That's the impression I got from reading the source material too. "WOAH HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF A BUNCH OF PUNK ROCKERS FOUGHT THE ESTABLISHMENT DUDE??!!"
But even that's something the game doesn't get right. There ain't no punk rock to be found here.

It's that they do nothing with the contrasts which irritated me most with it. Or rather they are constantly happy to leave the conclusion as something intended to shock rather than to be explored or to stimulate character development (as you're locked into what they provide). Punch someone, have a smoke, on to the next choreographed shoot-up. Just missing someone shouting Wyld Stallyns to mark the end of chapter.

 

[orcinator]

They said that bethesda is one of the best gaming companies in the world and as of 10th december they reached their level for me

I'm sure a bunch of beth execs are overjoyed that Cyb77 didn't raise open world standards in any way shape or form (besides grafix).

 

[Jarpie]

We have a saying in Poland "woda sodowa uderzyła mu do głowy"[success went to his head]. This looks like the case.

We have a similar saying "Piss rose up to his/her head", which basically means the same thing.

 

[Inziladun]

Eh not getting the hate. The game is alright, I think the biggest disappointing factor so far as been the limited dialogue choices and the generic gameplay options (open map, locations where you're notified to kill things, people spamming you with quests, boxing quest chain, racing quest chain.) To some degree this is unavoidable, but it all comes together pretty meh. But my expectations for this game were pretty much nonexistent because CDPR didn't release jack shit about it, and what little they teased I only half paid attention to. The city itself is pretty great, wish there were more ways to interact with it.

All in all, it's a decent game. AI is laughably bad though.

 

[Seethe]

lol

 

[Tacgnol]

The game's structure is very similar to The Witcher 3 at the end of the day. Most of the gigs/sidejobs are pretty similar to the contracts and smaller side quests in TW3.

You get larger side quests as part of the main quest which sometimes involve characters from the MQ line.

Aside from bugs, a big part of the reason normies are criticising the game is they were expecting a GTA/RDR experience, instead they got Twitcher with cars and guns.

Overhype hasn't helped.

 

[Trithne]

Eh not getting the hate. The game is alright, I think the biggest disappointing factor so far as been the limited dialogue choices and the generic gameplay options (open map, locations where you're notified to kill things, people spamming you with quests, boxing quest chain, racing quest chain.) To some degree this is unavoidable, but it all comes together pretty meh. But my expectations for this game were pretty much nonexistent because CDPR didn't release jack shit about it, and what little they teased I only half paid attention to. The city itself is pretty great, wish there were more ways to interact with it.

All in all, it's a decent game. AI is laughably bad though.

Good AI doesn't sell 4 million copies on consoles though.

 

[TheDiceMustRoll]

There's no such thing as a big RPG codex thread without some retard bitching about "muh SJWs", due to whatever random thing pisses him off about the game. Either because there's too much censorship and some breasts were covered, or contradictory, because of too many dildos. But suddenly it is "based and red pilled" when the "2% of cars commit 14% of the accidents" joke is being made. Fuck off already, (((retard))). You are off your rockers, and not seeing these inconsistencies probably means that you're brain dead.

As always, the Codex is content constantly complaining about the decline, about shittier game mechanics, games that are increasingly disappointing or barely RPGs, the general decline in quality with increasingly bad writing, less likeable characters that also often look shit.
You might even mention that they're making retarded design decisions that when looked at from a market position or based on their past products make no sense, like providing the same amount of "romance" Options for 3% of their player base as for likely 93% because "equality" or replacing picking "Male" and "Female" in the character screen as was obviously intended with voice Options and pronouns because a small minority lashed out and still wasn't satisfied even after the changes were made: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...go-to-new-thread.122398/page-274#post-6650607

But mention that most of their favorite games of all time and the Golden age of RPGs were made by largely homogeneous teams who thought similar or that Choices like "Diversity hiring" instead of hiring the most competent people do indeed have Consequences and they recoil in terror while they point their finger: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...e-mrbtongue-thread.74678/page-18#post-4334632


And don't you dare mention that specific kinds of people on dev teams with a similar mind virus are among other things behind some of this decline and have managed to creatively kill former darlings like BioWare, Blizzard, Obsidian or the hope for a good new Vampire RPG, that would be IST, and IST IS BAD!

Unironically take your meds

 

[Funposter]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

Actually asking those questions and exploring these issues would make people uncomfortable and get you yelled at on twitter, so they won't do it. We can also assume that the devs are hacks and/or retards, so they're either too unintelligent to explore the issues anyway, OR it also makes them uncomfortable to question this stuff.

 

[Reapa]

anyone notice the retarded popin tessellation yet?

 

[Fedora Master]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

I'm going to offer mitigation for that because Cyberpunk 2020 is a superficial take on cyberpunk and staying true to that is what gets you the nonsense conversations with Dex and Jackie about glory followed by an investigation into sex slavery and snuff movies as a tick box exercise straight after. Fully agree with your take and on how poor it is. It's 'how cool would it be to have Keanu Reeves in your head? Very cool or so cool you'd explode?'. So you've got a very superficial setting by design and choice, not Gibson asking where the boundaries of reality are, and who is policing them, nor even Dick playing about with the idea of 'can you tell a disabled person from a robot well enough not to shoot both?'.

That's the impression I got from reading the source material too. "WOAH HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF A BUNCH OF PUNK ROCKERS FOUGHT THE ESTABLISHMENT DUDE??!!"
But even that's something the game doesn't get right. There ain't no punk rock to be found here.

e: Sure would be cool if you had any idea what the radio stations are actually about. Something like... I dunno, a cool guy behind a mic who talks about the music he's playing? He could manually change tracks, too. Like some sort of disc... changer.

At some point the voice acting budget had to run out.

It doesn't have to be a full GTA-style radio DJ, just some little ads in between to make it feel like an actual radio station.