CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Fedora Master]

 

[Justicar]

PLAYTIMES OVER

this is what dev responsible for the cop system said to the gaymers.

 

[Seigneur Locklear]

Eh not getting the hate. The game is alright, I think the biggest disappointing factor so far as been the limited dialogue choices and the generic gameplay options (open map, locations where you're notified to kill things, people spamming you with quests, boxing quest chain, racing quest chain.) To some degree this is unavoidable, but it all comes together pretty meh. But my expectations for this game were pretty much nonexistent because CDPR didn't release jack shit about it, and what little they teased I only half paid attention to. The city itself is pretty great, wish there were more ways to interact with it.

All in all, it's a decent game. AI is laughably bad though.

8 years and 300$ mils poured into a "decent" game - a supposed top quality open world RPG at that, is quite underwhelming, to say at least.
At this point, RDR2 is, without a joke, more of an RPG than this game is and that's saying a lot.

 

[Perkel]

Aside from bugs, a big part of the reason normies are criticising the game is they were expecting a GTA/RDR experience
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Nah, they are sperging out because game runs like dog shit on base last gen consoles + some actual bugs on base consoles. Other kind of criticism are basically non existent aside from some speglord sperging out about traffic AI.
Most of console sales are no doubt on last game consoles.

 

[Fedora Master]

Fuck. V can't even sleep in his bed right.

 

[orcinator]

All the tranny shit is a perfect example of something that COULD make for an intelligent statement but doesn't because it's there for no reason other than window dressing. Something the trannies should actually be angry about, if they had an IQ above room temperature.

So it's a world where you can just swap your sexy bits at will. Fair enough, sounds futuristic enough. But what are the implications? lol who cares, here's an ad with a dickgirl! Funny! Trannies angry, reeee!
Instead the game should be asking: How does society react to such a trend? Every society has social mores, even if the one in CP is deeply amoral. The setting makes a big deal out of cyberpsychosis - It's only logical that someone who regularly swaps their cock'n'balls for a vagina would develop serious issues then, no? What about high society, corpos? Is it totally acceptable for a CEO to front as a stronk wahmen one day and a Chad the next? Or would they require their employess to adhere to certain standards while at work, if only to make the company look professional? What about the really poor or outsiders like the nomads who can't get access to a tranny surgeon easily? Wouldn't nomads look down on such a practice as decadent?

It goes on and on. Nobody says it's required for them to give answers to these questions but at the very least they should come up at some point or another. Otherwise it's, again, just style over substance.

I'm going to offer mitigation for that because Cyberpunk 2020 is a superficial take on cyberpunk and staying true to that is what gets you the nonsense conversations with Dex and Jackie about glory followed by an investigation into sex slavery and snuff movies as a tick box exercise straight after. Fully agree with your take and on how poor it is. It's 'how cool would it be to have Keanu Reeves in your head? Very cool or so cool you'd explode?'. So you've got a very superficial setting by design and choice, not Gibson asking where the boundaries of reality are, and who is policing them, nor even Dick playing about with the idea of 'can you tell a disabled person from a robot well enough not to shoot both?'.

That's the impression I got from reading the source material too. "WOAH HOW COOL WOULD IT BE IF A BUNCH OF PUNK ROCKERS FOUGHT THE ESTABLISHMENT DUDE??!!"
But even that's something the game doesn't get right. There ain't no punk rock to be found here.

e: Sure would be cool if you had any idea what the radio stations are actually about. Something like... I dunno, a cool guy behind a mic who talks about the music he's playing? He could manually change tracks, too. Like some sort of disc... changer.

At some point the voice acting budget had to run out.

It doesn't have to be a full GTA-style radio DJ, just some little ads in between to make it feel like an actual radio station.

The choice was between having DJs/commercials and another set of wholesome Keanu chungus lines that you're going to miss if you walk forward too fast.

 

[freygeist87]

Unironically take your meds

What a clever and witty response. Never heard that before. You really destroyed his whole argument. Bravo

 

[Reapa]

 

[RobotSquirrel]

Act 3 Its right there! I can almost touch it! Its almost over for me everyone.
This games becoming more an ordeal than I expected. Also I'm crazy low level for how far I am. I'm only level 22.

Spoiler

I'm going for the Nomad ending because I'm playing as a Nomad and its obvious CDPR intended it to go:
Nomad = Good Ending/Good Guys
Street Kid = Neutral Ending/Side with Johnny or Rogue
Corpo = Bad Ending/Boom

So far there hasn't been a single stand out quest in the entire game except the intro heist. Everything else has been pretty by the numbers.
Its odd that some of the optional side quests are better designed than the MQ areas. In those side quests I can at least approach the map in different ways and plan things out. The MQ seems hell bent on sending me down a linear path all the time.

Its clear that the game wants you to go stealth towards the end as it starts throwing iconic stealth weapons at you as MQ rewards. It does come in handy because their damage is insane especially when you have perks picked that benefit stealth.

Also they finally show the net. What an underwhelming disappointment. I think its the worst depiction of Cyberspace I've ever seen.

You'll be pleased to know that there is an actual open world 2020 map though it uses a lot of copy paste from 2077 and you don't get to drive around it rather you get driven around. But still huge potential for modders. I also like 2020's style more because everyone looks normal whereas in 2077 everyone looks like a freak.

 

[Tel Velothi]

Papa Môlé Hando Atleticano Tel Velothi

a game tailor made for you guys!

them chastity cages tho :3

 

[Parsimonious cook]

As for the DJs, there are some radios that have talk segments. I dont remember which one was it, but for example there is a radio that plays something like country music (I guess its aiming at nomads) and at one point the DJ started to read listener mail in which some guy talked about how major corporate families live for up to 200 years now and that means they are vampires. The same radio also had a segment in which the DJ talked about "aliens in the desert" or some shit like that (maybe its supposed to be a Cost to Cost AM parody).

I definitely would appreciate if there was a short text description in the radio selection menu - that would solve the problem and cost CDPR next to nothing.

 

[Eastwood]

Anyone tried refunding the game on GOG yet? Supposedly you can do that up to 30 days after purchase.
Seeing how little replayability there is, I don't think the game is worth playing in its current state. I'd rather wait a year or two and buy it for 8€ at a discount.

 

[Fedora Master]

That's... ironic to say the least.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

Don't you just hate it when you go to the local discount clothes shop but they only have the one type of trailer trash outfit

 

[undecaf]

Twitcher with cars and guns.

It’s a real problem that so much design is copied from Witcher, particularly the 3rd. It doesn’t seem to mesh well with this game and what it seemingly implies.

It’s sad that Witcher got into CDPR’s head like Oblivion got to Bethesda’s back in those days. Piss in ones head impairs creativity, and no product is produced that would stand on its own feet.

 

[Perkel]

Found my first gameplay bug. Dude in Tigers casino is supposed to let me in into casino if i pay but if i get close to him he goes into warning mode and starts shooting. You can quickly pay him and get by that way before warning meter is full.

That is first gameplay bug in 30+ hours.

 

[Taxnomore]

Someone is having a very cool bug where Dum Dum started following him around everywhere and become a friend

Actually helping in fights too

https://twitter.com/MetaWendoh/status/1337944381341503490?s=19

 

[Mefi]

Don't you just hate it when you go to the local discount clothes shop but they only have the one type of trailer trash outfit

Twins and triplets in matching clothes all over...

 

[Justicar]

Someone is having a very cool bug where Dum Dum started following him around everywhere and become a friend

Actually helping in fights too

https://twitter.com/MetaWendoh/status/1337944381341503490?s=19

Lol so there is some dynamic ai even though its a bug He even got into car with him xD

 

[Kruno]

Should I have sex with everyone I can? Is there a benefit?

 

[Parsimonious cook]

Found my first gameplay bug. Dude in Tigers casino is supposed to let me in into casino if i pay but if i get close to him he goes into warning mode and starts shooting. You can quickly pay him and get by that way before warning meter is full.

That is first gameplay bug in 30+ hours.

The first real bug I found in my 25 hours was pretty brutal. In the Greed Never Pays side gig I hid in one of the booths in the brain dance club and made a quick save there. After reloading I found myself stuck inside the booth - it was impossible to open the door. So I reloaded to a previous save still in the club and it was impossible to open any doors (there was an option to close doors only and when I pressed F there were no options to open them). I reloaded an autosave from the initial part of the mission in an appartment building and the same things was there too - ie doors were fucked, so this bug actually started to work retroactively on saves that were fine before.

In the end I had to revert to an autosave from a previous mission I did (It was maybe just 10 minutes of lost game time, so fortunately no big deal) and the same mission then worked fine. Still, quite a scarry experience.

 

[Fedora Master]

How the fuck can you have a free camera mode during BD editing? IT MAKES NO SENSE AAHHHHH

e: Since we're doing Judy comparison shots

i5, RX580 - Everything set to high, shadows around medium.

 

[Yoomazir]

I wonder how many iterations this game went through. Remember that leak from a few years ago, where it showed a female mc walking inside a room with italian mafia looking guys? It's clearly different from what we have today.
Also, wtf happened with the skill trees and crafting mechanics, they suck hard, Skyrim has a better crafting system ffs...

 

[RobotSquirrel]

How the fuck can you have a free camera mode during BD editing? IT MAKES NO SENSE AAHHHHH

it does though we have scanners today that can get the point cloud data of entire rooms. You can easily turn a still photo into a 3d model so apply that idea to footage and you get BD.
the problem with BD is less the feasibility of it and more that its just a bad mechanic.

 

[Yosharian]

I wonder how many iterations this game went through. Remember that leak from a few years ago, where it showed a female mc walking inside a room with italian mafia looking guys? It's clearly different from what we have today.
Also, wtf happened with the skill trees and crafting mechanics, they suck hard, Skyrim has a better crafting system ffs...

Judging from some of the dialogue I think this game went through development hell.