Gothic Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos mod for Gothic 2

[Jvegi]

Do I need to play another Gothic game to get anything out of this? Would this be a good introduction to the series?

Yes, you need to play real Gothic games, but it won't help you find anything worthwhile in archolos. No, it wouldn't be a good introduction, what a terrible thing to think.

You shouldn't play this mod at all.

 

[tred]

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Do I need to play another Gothic game to get anything out of this? Would this be a good introduction to the series?
Never played any of the Gothic series but they've been in my steam library for what seems like forever.

No, it is not necessary to play other Gothics. A chronologic experience of the series is not necessary to enjoy it.
Codex purists love to gatekeep/condition your possible enjoyment of a game. Play Archolos, it is very good. If you like it, then you'll probably enjoy Gothic 1 and 2 too. If not, then you probably won't like them too. Above all, have fun.

 

[JarlFrank]

Archolos is harder than the original Gothics, so familiarity with the games before you play this is better.

 

[Marat]

There's a couple of references with big payoffs for fans of the series but the experience is perfectly enjoyable on its own. Having said that I'd suggest you play the originals first, both to appreciate the contrast in artistic execution and to avoid not wanting to play a technically inferior version.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Archolos is harder than the original Gothics

lmao

 

[curds]

No, it is not necessary to play other Gothics. A chronologic experience of the series is not necessary to enjoy it.
Codex purists love to gatekeep/condition your possible enjoyment of a game.

Of course it is not necessary to play the first 2 games in order to get any enjoyment out of Archolos.
However, Archolos features a bunch of callbacks and references that will be more satisfying if you have played G1 and G2 first. It also expands upon a bunch of mechanics from the first games. Lastly there is absolutely no reason to not play G1 and G2 first. They are brilliant games. His question was, is Archolos a good introduction to the series? And the answer is, not really.

 

[Tacgnol]

Archolos is harder than the original Gothics, so familiarity with the games before you play this is better.

I found it somewhere in between G2 classic and NOTR personally. Though I guess it may depend on the playstyle you went for.

 

[cvv]

Early game I found it harder than NOTR coz the money is tighter, it takes longer to get going.

 

[thesecret1]

NOTR is harder in the early game. But halfway through, NOTR difficulty plummets and the game becomes a cakewalk, which doesn't happen in Archolos.

 

[cvv]

NOTR is harder in the early game. But halfway through, NOTR difficulty plummets and the game becomes a cakewalk, which doesn't happen in Archolos.

Archolos doesn't turn into a cakewalk until the lategame but when you climb over 100 in your base stat (STR or DEX), there are only a few things left that pose any challenge at all. And that happens mid-mid game, depending on your run. Which, IIRC, is about the same in NOTR.

But Archolos felt harder than NOTR in early game coz the money is REALLY tight, plus it's worth investing in hunter skills early, forgoing fighting skills, making adventuring even trickier.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Archolos doesn't turn into a cakewalk until the lategame but when you climb over 100 in your base stat (STR or DEX), there are only a few things left that pose any challenge at all. And that happens mid-mid game

I had 100 DEX after some 20 hours, long before even becoming a citizen.

You can also get decent armour ridiculously fast in this game which further tanks the difficulty.

Saying Archolos is harder than either Gothic is laughable.

 

[cvv]

I had 100 DEX after some 20 hours

You can also get decent armour ridiculously fast

So you put every single point and every single coin into DEX for the first 20 hours. So you've probably grinded the early game, running all over the island with crappy gear, and then you burnt out as soon as you finally got into the city. Noted.

Also if you mean that armour in that forest, yes you can find it very fast. If the first thing you usually do in this kind of game is immediately run naked into the most dangerous forest in the starting area and get oneshot over and over again until you randomly stumble over it. Or if you've read up on it in a guide first. And then you still get killed 3 tries out of 4. Aand while decent it's nowhere near "tanking the difficulty".

So putting all that aside, yes, you're right. Game's very easy.

 

[Krivol]

Archolos is harder than the original Gothics

lmao

The simple fact that bonus stat points are counted differently makes Archolos much easier than Gothic 2 NotR, where you should ignore all stats bonuses until the end of the game.

Yes, the amount of cash is tight at the beginning, but the world is big and there are gazillions of quests to do, so explore, avoid hard enemies (save-try-load if you must) and talk to every NPC and in a short time you will be a powerhouse.
My advice - there are so many bonus stat points (potions, food, trainers, books etc) there is no reason to go with any of the stats above 1 learning point per skill threshold till the late mid-game.

 

[Arthandas]

 

[Darth Roxor]

So you put every single point and every single coin into DEX for the first 20 hours.

Nope. All I needed was level 3 alchemy, which I got when I had like 50 DEX already and good enough bow/one-handed that let me get the cash and LP for that without too much effort. It boggled my mind when I noticed you can get Alchemy 3 as early as possible without any chapter lock.

So you've probably grinded the early game, running all over the island with crappy gear, and then you burnt out as soon as you finally got into the city. Noted.

Didn't grind shit and didn't have to use crappy gear. I "burnt out" after clearing out the island and having only the boring as shit city quests left, and then realising that progressing through the main rails only adds more boring as shit city quests.

Also if you mean that armour in that forest, yes you can find it very fast. If the first thing you usually do in this kind of game is immediately run naked into the most dangerous forest in the starting area and get oneshot over and over again until you randomly stumble over it. Or if you've read up on it in a guide first. And then you still get killed 3 tries out of 4. Aand while decent it's nowhere near "tanking the difficulty".

I don't know what 'that armour' is. I mean leather armour you can get from the fishing village for a pittance, and which you can then upgrade at the city for another pittance. This is probably enough to serve you for more than half the fucking game and is superior to tier 1 and 2 faction armour, and you can get it very fast without any guides or abuse or random chance.

Pretty sure you can buy it in the city somewhere too but maybe I'm ronk.

And even then if you don't stumble upon the fishing village, the travelling womyn merchant in the starting village sells a chainmail that is roughly similar, just with protection values swapped for blades and clubs.

Archolos is simply pitifully easy for anyone who's ever played Gothic before more than once.

 

[Arthandas]

Archolos is simply pitifully easy for anyone who's ever played Gothic before more than once.

v2.0 will have a "hardcore mode", let's hope it'll live up to its name

 

[deama]

Archolos is simply pitifully easy for anyone who's ever played Gothic before more than once.

v2.0 will have a "hardcore mode", let's hope it'll live up to its name

Hopefully it's not gonna be just a "delete save game when you die".

 

[Arthandas]

Hopefully it's not gonna be just a "delete save game when you die".

"We're working on harder difficulty mode for CoM. This will not be just changing the statistics, but more a rebalance of the game with additional gameplay features."

 

[notpl]

NOTR is harder in the early game. But halfway through, NOTR difficulty plummets and the game becomes a cakewalk, which doesn't happen in Archolos.

Archolos doesn't turn into a cakewalk until the lategame but when you climb over 100 in your base stat (STR or DEX), there are only a few things left that pose any challenge at all. And that happens mid-mid game, depending on your run. Which, IIRC, is about the same in NOTR.

But Archolos felt harder than NOTR in early game coz the money is REALLY tight, plus it's worth investing in hunter skills early, forgoing fighting skills, making adventuring even trickier.

Yeah, nothing in gothic is really "hard" if you know the combat timing in and out, but archolos tweaked the economy and gave the player enough things to spend money on that the game actually gained a strategic resource element that was never present in the originals.

 

[sosmoflux]

Anyone have an ETA? I need it so bad

 

[Outlander]

Anyone have an ETA? I need it so bad

April Fool's joke?

 

[Arthandas]

I'm pretty sure the trailer is legit (apart from the Switch exclusive part). I've been hanging out on their discord and they've been working on 2.0 for some time now, and even before this trailer dropped the ETA was "this year probably".

 

[deama]

I heard most of the devs left for various reasons after the project got finished though?

 

[PrK]

I'm pretty sure the trailer is legit (apart from the Switch exclusive part). I've been hanging out on their discord and they've been working on 2.0 for some time now, and even before this trailer dropped the ETA was "this year probably".

I thought it was just gonna be the hardcore mode, all that new content (apart from the minigames, that's a joke right?) is incline.

 

[notpl]

I heard most of the devs left for various reasons after the project got finished though?

Well, it has been a year and a half and they haven't even finished this small expansion. Compared to the ~3 years it took to make the whole mod from start to finish, that certainly suggests their pace has slowed significantly, which makes sense if this is just a personal project for a few remaining people at this point.