Civilization VII - coming February 11th

[Space Satan]

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Pretty realistic, we have examples of France=>Algeria and England=>Pakistan

 

[spectre]

Ok, so it says gameplay reveal, but where's the gameplay? Oh, right. I forgot which year it is.
Promo material gonna promo. Nobody ever plays a civ game all zoomed in like this.

There's a quick glance at Cleopatra and what looks to be Octavian Augustus. Other than the really shitty facial expressions (you really need to pause at the right frame to appreciate it)
it's still a marked improvement, turning away from the cartoony style. Color me unimpressed, cause otherwise it doesn't really look much different from V and VI to my eyes.

If I'm reading that snippet right, they're going to emulate HUJMANKIND(tm) culture morphing? Out of all the features, they decided to pick this one?
Two steps forward, three steps backwards I suppose.

 

[flyingjohn]

Can't wait until everybody praises the culture swap while dunking on humankind.

 

[whydoibother]

Ok, so it says gameplay reveal, but where's the gameplay? Oh, right. I forgot which year it is.

They are streaming it right now, dummy.

 

[civac2]

Copying humankind is pathetic. Copying one of its failed ideas is stupid.

 

[whydoibother]

Copying humankind is pathetic. Copying one of its failed ideas is stupid.

Not sure how I feel about that one. I like the accompanying idea, that eras are over at the same time for everyone, with a big crisis. I guess it makes sense to have some sort of reset after the crisis, they decided to pick a new civilization.
What I would've done is to pick a new LEADER for your already existing civilization, out of some set of leaders. Not every historical culture would work that way, but you can decide that the Romans became the Venetians became the Italians or somethin, and fit it.

 

[civac2]

Yes, that would work. But only for major civilisations. Can't do Cree or whatever, that way.

 

[whydoibother]

Yes, that would work. But only for major civilisations. Can't do Cree or whatever, that way.

Call it "Native Americans" or whatever, and select a few tribes. Maybe mythical or made up leaders, too. We've already had those.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Style wise looks much better than 5 and 6 and way better than expected in general.

I see they also brought out a couple of non-retarded looking white guys for the presentation, so trying not to burn all the bridges.

Stealing from Amplitude again is absolutely hilarious tho. At least EL was a game worth stealing from, in certain aspects.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[whydoibother]

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

They took the "choose new civ every era" mechanic from Humankind:

"so, guys, this thing is absolutely retarded and makes no sense whatsoever. we totally must have it too".

 

[Baron Tahn]

They keep making cities bigger and it screws with the sense of scale. It looks like coruscant far too early.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Civ is already the fastest 4X game

"Let's make it faster."

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Mindboggling how they have chosen to emulate that retarded civ swap mechanic from Humankind. Also, just three eras (perhaps partly due to the sort of limitations that implementing a less jarring civ swap mechanic requires)? Lol.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

such a missed opportunity to get Philomena Cunk to narrate lol.

 

[Serious_Business]

This shite needs to realise its final duty and go into the tanks

 

[Taxnomore]

Apparently they also super simplified everything like tech trees.

 

[Jvegi]

I love women and all, but this gal is grinding my gears. No way I could play Civ with her.

 

[Fedora Master]

I warned you. I told you guys about Firaxis.

 

[whydoibother]

I love women and all, but this gal is grinding my gears. No way I could play Civ with her.

Play it while listening to some pop-history podcast, like the rest of us do.
Anyways, having seen the gameplay footage and sleeping on it, I'd say I am optimistic about this. The civ swap thing is lame, why copy a failed competitor's gimmick? But I'll reserve my judgement until I've tried it. The rest looks good.

 

[Hellraiser]

I am utterly astonished by how much worse the major changes they announced are than I thought they would be.

Having the eras end simultaneously for everyone to force a leader swap (lololol, if they wanted to copy that from humankind, there were far better ways to do it, like picking new/additional traits similar to how religion in CiV worked or whatever) is another board game-inspired mechanic that has no place in a 4X on a computer. We went from Gollop's "I can have more complex rules in games than in tabletop, since computers handle all the math and number bookkeeping" to "we have simpler rules like board games, because our designers are too retarded to use computers properly".

They took the "choose new civ every era" mechanic from Humankind:

"so, guys, this thing is absolutely retarded and makes no sense whatsoever. we totally must have it too".

Just shows how creatively bankrupt Firaxis is nowadays, Beyond Earth made by a shitty B-team was a red flag warning of this terrible future ahead of their games once the boomer designers retire. We're now well at that point where the B-team took over after the old guard (also lol current firaxis head is another useless non-designer).

 

[whydoibother]

I am utterly astonished by how much worse the major changes they announced are than I thought they would be.

I can't take you people seriously when you write shit like that. Either you never gave it any thought, or you are completely clueless.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Civ Swap mechanic is dogshit in Humankind and is nothing anybody wanted or asked for.

We wuz Britton and shiets is probably the reason.

 

[Hellraiser]

I am utterly astonished by how much worse the major changes they announced are than I thought they would be.

I can't take you people seriously when you write shit like that. Either you never gave it any thought, or you are completely clueless.

The thought I gave this was they wouldn't reduce the number of eras or copy the civ-swap gimmick from Humankind (which IMO existed primarily so that Humankind wouldn't look like an outright civ ripoff with leader/civ picks), because I thought that for all it's flaws the money-grabbing T2/2K suits in charge would be too risk-averse and "conservative" to rubber-stamp such a major change to core established features during the internal pitch stage. I expected Civ VI with a new coat of paint and minor changes in the usual areas (religion, governments, economy/cities).