Codex GOTY 2020 (Not the official Codex GOTY)

[Jenkem]

*not the official codex GOTY which will undoubtedly be the most secure GOTY vote in the history of mankind where only codexers will vote and not resetrannies and twatter fags

 

[V_K]

*not the official codex GOTY which will undoubtedly be the most secure GOTY vote in the history of mankind where only codexers will vote and not resetrannies and twatter fags

Kind reminder that this was the result of the vote conducted on the codex platform, with no external interference:

 

[Ol' Willy]

Kind reminder that this was the result of the vote conducted on the codex platform, with no external interference:

Resurrection in there?! Now, based on the precedent, I demand Sonora to be included in 2020 poll!

 

[Ismaul]

Kind reminder that this was the result of the vote conducted on the codex platform, with no external interference:

This isn't such a bad list man. Maybe your top1 isn't the same as the one on the list, and mine isn't either, but the list is ok.

 

[Efe]

How is that a GOTY vote when games have different release dates?

 

[Ismaul]

How is that a GOTY vote when games have different release dates?

It's not. It's for 2012-2016.

 

[Darth Canoli]

So, i didn't play any of them, except of 15 minutes of Naheulbeuk's retarded prologue/tutorial.

I'm tempted to vote for Wasteland 3 but i'll rather boycott the vote since KotC 2 Augury of Chaos isn't there.

 

[Ol' Willy]

None of the above leads the poll. Great game, I enjoy it immensely.

 

[Jrpgfan]

i'll rather boycott the vote since KotC 2 Augury of Chaos isn't there.

That's because only videogames are eligible.

 

[Gradenmayer]

*not the official codex GOTY which will undoubtedly be the most secure GOTY vote in the history of mankind where only codexers will vote and not resetrannies and twatter fags

Kind reminder that this was the result of the vote conducted on the codex platform, with no external interference:

Age of decadence, NEO, shadowrun and underrail would never make it top 10 on any other user vote based site.

I don't see any issues here. Codexians rule.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Age of decadence, NEO, shadowrun and underrail would never make it top 10 on any other user vote based site.

That's why I don't have account at any other RPG related site, but have account here.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Ori and the Will of the Wisps has open world exploration, character development, side quests, swords, bows and fireballs, so it is an RPG, and yet it is missing from the poll. If not for that it would win bigly! I demand a full forensic audit of this poll and I would like to mention that I am already filing multiple lawsuits against this rampant, widespread fraud.

 

[Jrpgfan]

Ori and the Will of the Wisps has open world exploration, character development, side quests, swords, bows and fireballs, so it is an RPG, and yet it is missing from the poll. If not for that it would win bigly! I demand a full forensic audit of this poll and I would like to mention that I am already filing multiple lawsuits against this rampant, widespread fraud.

I thought you didn't like metroidvanias.

 

[Darth Roxor]

yes, fortunately ori is an rpg

 

[V_K]

yes, fortunately ori is an rpg

How do you differentiate between the two exactly?

 

[NJClaw]

yes, fortunately ori is an rpg

How do you differentiate between the two exactly?

When you like it, it's an RPG; when you don't, it's not.

 

[V_K]

yes, fortunately ori is an rpg

How do you differentiate between the two exactly?

When you like it, it's an RPG; when you don't, it's not.

But what if you like metroidvanias as a genre?

 

[Lord of Riva]

But what if you like metroidvanias as a genre?

Whats defines a Metroidvania?

 

[fantadomat]

yes, fortunately ori is an rpg

Added it for you,old man!

 

[Darth Roxor]

yes, fortunately ori is an rpg

How do you differentiate between the two exactly?

When you like it, it's an RPG; when you don't, it's not.

precisely

 

[fantadomat]

yes, fortunately ori is an rpg

How do you differentiate between the two exactly?

When you like it, it's an RPG; when you don't, it's not.

Finally a decent answer on the eternal question "What is an RPG?".

 

[V_K]

But what if you like metroidvanias as a genre?

Whats defines a Metroidvania?

Well, it's quite easy actually:
- Side-scrolling perspective;
- Real-time combat and platforming (or a similar traversal mechanic);
- Character upgrades that improve combat and/or platforming abilities;
- Non-linear progression in some way dependent on getting upgrades.

 

[Momock]

Whats defines a Metroidvania?

Having RPG elements, in addition to the metroid-like structure and gatekeeping.

PS: What V_R describes is a metroid-like. You need RPG elements (character building, equipment, leveling...) to make it a metroidvania.

 

[Lord of Riva]

But what if you like metroidvanias as a genre?

Whats defines a Metroidvania?

Well, it's quite easy actually:
- Side-scrolling perspective;
- Real-time combat and platforming (or a similar traversal mechanic);
- Character upgrades that improve combat and/or platforming abilities;
- Non-linear progression in some way dependent on getting upgrades.

Good effort but that would make Super Mario World a Metroidvania and Castlevania Curse of Darnkness not one.

Whats defines a Metroidvania?

Having RPG elements, in addition to the metroid-like structure and gatekeeping.

PS: What V_R describes is a metroid-like. You need RPG elements (character building, equipment, leveling...) to make it a metroidvania.

Better, but by your adoption of most of his categorization Curse of Darkness would still not be a metroidvania, and any game that functioned nearly the same as symphony of the night but did not feature the RPG elements would not be. What RPG elements *are* would also be still debatable.

The point I am making is that "Genre" is a categorization that is purposefully vague, in fact we would probably all three find that most of the examples we would point to as a Metroidvania would be the same but on the Edges this would stop. It's the same with the RPG question, a Genre is merely a recognition of patterns that helps those using the categorization to speed up an identification process.

It must have boundaries, otherwise every game would be in a genre but can not be rigid either, as the only objective facts would only recognize one group, the individual. Genre *must* be subjective to have any purpose and we know the answer in this forum by voting (at this point) ~68% against recognizing Cyberpunk as an RPG and a not insubstantial amount of people (~30%) recognizing as one. (this would not be the same, if we asked if super mario world is an RPG, most likely)

So, the only thing that matters is understanding of the category *and* the term, a genre is subjective, always in flux and is based on a reliable way of understanding of a pattern in a social context.

The answer to the question "is Cyberpunk an RPG?" should be no, least not on the codex.

EDIT: I reconsidered the two "yes" option in the poll as well, it actually is pretty worthwhile, the second yes option shows the shift in the perception.

 

[Momock]

Better, but by your adoption of most of his categorization Curse of Darkness would still not be a metroidvania, and any game that functioned nearly the same as symphony of the night but did not feature the RPG elements would not be.

That's the point. It would be a metroid-like, not a metroidvania.

And I guess being a side-scroller isn't mandatory to be a metroid-like or metroidvania, like being first person isn't mandatory to be an immersive-sim (it's just that we are used to games of the genre to be it).
So yes, Curse of Darkness is a metroidvania, you can relax. :D