Putting the 'role' back in role-playing games since 2002.
Donate to Codex
Good Old Games
  • Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.

Diablo 2: Resurrected remaster

typical user

Arbiter
Joined
Nov 30, 2015
Messages
957
damn can't wait to play it with the bois
 

cvv

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Mar 30, 2013
Messages
18,951
Location
Kingdom of Bohemia
Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Anyone watching the streams? Is this another Reforged or do I actually allow myself to be hyped?

Christ almighty my jaded ass would love to be hyped again.
 

ADL

Prophet
Joined
Oct 23, 2017
Messages
4,096
Location
Nantucket
I may pick this up when it's five dollars for enhanced mod support far down the line but what are the chances the worthwhile mods add support like Median XL?
 

Kruno

Arcane
Patron
Village Idiot Zionist Agent Shitposter
Joined
Jan 2, 2012
Messages
11,478
I may pick this up when it's five dollars for enhanced mod support far down the line but what are the chances the worthwhile mods add support like Median XL?

I will be creating mods for the game.

Expect a "Game Journalist" mode for people like myself!

Diablo 2 really requires almost genius levels of intellect to play.
 

Luka-boy

Arcane
Joined
Sep 24, 2014
Messages
1,688
Location
Asspain
Huh, so I woke up, started up my computer while having breakfast and the first thing recommended to me by Youtube is some Japanese Adidas-themed VTuber streaming the Early Access version of this. Interesting times we live in, but I guess I now know it's finally time to see if this could be decent :lol:
 
Joined
Aug 10, 2012
Messages
5,904
Watched a few minutes of some spergs playing this, it doesn't look too awful - I'd say it's pretty faithful so far. Shit interface, though. This industry is so creatively bankrupt it's laughable.
 

Vormulak

Learned
Edgy
Joined
Mar 24, 2021
Messages
177
Location
USA
Why does it have to have Macho Maam Tranny Savage? Why can't video games have attractive women anymore? I'll tell ye why because the obese dykes who work at these companies now can't tolerate women who are even remotely healthy and attractively.
 

4249

I stalk the night
Patron
Joined
Nov 19, 2014
Messages
1,229
PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut Divinity: Original Sin 2
I watched some D2 streamers try it out yesterday and honestly looked kind of fine as far as Blizzard goes. There were some enemies that looked totally out of place (Ghosts, Act2 birds), but otherwise it didn't look too bad. They had some really weird UI changes that kind of showed that the devs probably have no actual experience of the original, like having only a single indicator for allocatable stats and skills and not positioning the yes-option on the mouse cursor when buying stuff. lso the loading screens worked in a weird way that you could actually move during them and Duriel could even attack you during them. Probably will be fixed for final release but was pretty hilarious.

So while it looked kind of fine I still don't see the point of paying for it. The sprite work still holds up to this day, and at least IMO still looks better than the fairly generic 3D they've introduced. The gameplay is the same (as far as I understood only swapcasting didnt work), so you basicly get a shared stash and a worse framerate vs the original? At least with the streamers I watched the game was struggling quite often, especially in act 2.
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2012
Messages
15,228
lso the loading screens worked in a weird way that you could actually move during them and Duriel could even attack you during them.

Wasn't that a thing in original diablo? I recall people complaining about ruined HC characters because they took too long to load into Duriel.
 

Norfleet

Moderator
Joined
Jun 3, 2005
Messages
12,250
Watched a few minutes of some spergs playing this, it doesn't look too awful - I'd say it's pretty faithful so far. Shit interface, though. This industry is so creatively bankrupt it's laughable.
Well, what did you expect? I mean, this entire "remaster" trend centers around people unable to turn out products capable of competing with their prior products, so resort to re-heating their old products to repackage as something new. Notice how the most frequent cause of a remaster tends to be the previous product being a flop.

And, of course, this is itself a sign of creative stagnation, because their previous product was just a sequel to an even more previous product:

Diablo 2 => Diablo 3 => Diablo 2 Remastered.

Rome: Total War => Rome Total War 2 => Rome Total War Remastered.

Seeing a trend here?
 

cvv

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Mar 30, 2013
Messages
18,951
Location
Kingdom of Bohemia
Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Wasn't a tranny amazon in the OG too? Funny thing, I've never played the amazon or the sorceress coz 20 years ago I thought playing a female char in a vidya is gay. I clearly remember we used to mock our mates who admitted playing the sorceress.

Btw I just watched a bit of Asmongold's VOD and the framerate in that alpha test is hilarious. If they don't fix that for the release it's gonna be an even bigger shitstorm than Reforged.
 

Infinitron

I post news
Patron
Staff Member
Joined
Jan 28, 2011
Messages
99,566
Codex Year of the Donut Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
https://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-2-resurrected-hands-on-still-the-satanic-lord-of-action-rpgs/

Diablo 2: Resurrected hands-on: still the satanic lord of action RPGs
What we like and don't like about the Diablo 2: Resurrected technical alpha.

Diablo 2: Resurrected overhauls Diablo 2's graphics, but underneath the intricate new 3D models, dynamic lighting, and shiny puddles, it's the same old Diablo 2. And Diablo 2 still rules.

There are little hints that what you're seeing is just a costume. As I clicked around the trampled fields in the limited technical alpha today (the full release is coming later this year), I noticed that my sorceress gently snaps to the eight directions her original sprite has to face. And when I clicked too close to a cow, she clipped through it, whereas in the original Diablo 2, character sprites can only be in front of or behind another object.

Most of the time, the disguise is hard to see through. I might not even have believed that Diablo 2: Resurrected is a reskin of Diablo 2 if it weren't possible to yank off the mask. Press G, and the 4K art dissolves into the original low-res renders. It's an effect we've seen in other remasters, and it's always cool.

Only three classes and two acts are available in the Diablo 2: Resurrected technical alpha, and a few features aren't implemented, such as new color blindness modes, but otherwise it feels complete. The redone graphics are the big addition, and they mostly look great. Where torches and campfires in the original seem to emit pale white moonlight, you get the expected warm glow from the new dynamic lighting. Flames no longer cast shadows of themselves, either, a funny quirk of the original art. The remaster makes Sanctuary feel less otherworldly, and I suspect not everyone will be pleased with that, but in general I like the new mood. The more natural lighting gives Diablo 2's strange places a gentler side. They seem more like places that could really exist. (Although, Resurrected has its own lighting oddity. The character shadow is still based on a global light source, so it doesn't change if you walk up to a campfire. It's a bit distracting once you notice it.)

I don't like the redesign uniformly. Some of the new art lacks the character of the original pixelated renders: Boulders that used to look like smooth ass cheeks now look like normal rocks, and once charmingly chunky wagons are now more sensibly-proportioned. Characters whose features were mostly implied are now sharply defined—a few pale pixels and a helmet of comic book red hair have been replaced with severe cheekbones and a styled auburn waves—and they seem less interesting for it. It makes me think of live action adaptations of cartoons. Even if the actor is good, you'll always like the cartoon version of a character more.

There are parts where I like Resurrected's new art more than the original art, though. I haven't played far, but The Den of Evil looks creepier and cooler in the new version. The Gargantuan Beasts, big Yeti-like guys, are fabulous. It's the same deal as with the human characters: They've been given detailed, shiny fur, as if someone's done a realistic render of a cartoon character, but in this case the uncanny translation makes them stranger.

The new spell effects are chic, as well, although I wish Blizzard weren't so committed to making the ground shiny. I played Diablo 4 back at BlizzCon after it was announced, and every surface there shines, too. Who is polishing all these cave floors? (I know, I know, everything's wet. Everything's always wet.)

Killing demons the old way
As for how Diablo 2: Resurrected plays, there are some light, toggleable changes, such as an automatic gold collection function. Otherwise, though, it's just Diablo 2. And while it has much more competition today, Diablo 2 still feels as good as it did back when I was putting off high school homework to play it.

Aspects of it are weird today, of course. Diablo 2 doesn't have a hotbar for attacks, for instance. At any given moment, you can have one action assigned to your left mouse button and one action assigned to your right mouse button. If you want to use more than two attacks or spells during a fight, you can assign keys (the top row function keys, by default) that change your mouse button bindings on the fly, or use the scroll wheel to cycle your right mouse button binding. Meanwhile, the number keys are used for potions.

That's not how anyone would design an action RPG today, but you get used to it. And as I played, I was reminded of how many little things Diablo 2 did so brilliantly. The ping when you move a gem in your inventory, the gurgle when you drop a potion, the clink of falling gold, the fwoshp when you reposition a leather tunic to make space in the inventory grid: all so good. Every sound effect in Diablo 2 is a top tier videogame sound effect. The music also belongs on the Gaming's Greatest Hits album, and it sounds fantastic here (Blizzard says that Resurrected features "a complete audio remaster in Dolby Surround 7.1 sound").

Diablo 2's menus remain just about perfect. Almost nothing is so complicated that it doesn't fit in a panel that only takes up a third of the screen, or half of it if you're in 800x600 mode. I'd forgotten how pleasant it is to look at a skill tree and think, "Ah, yes, there are all of the skills." It's so chill compared to the 15-page brochures about elemental damage you sometimes get today.

If you haven't played Diablo 2, the combat is probably what you expect based on its reputation: Big hordes of Satan's friends mob you, and you click them to death with your vintage Microsoft IntelliMouse (or whatever you have). You get rare magical loot, you identify that loot with scrolls, and you wear it, and you feel awesome about how cool your loot is. If it's totally new to you, Diablo 2 inspired many of today's biggest games: Destiny 2, the Borderlands games, and more obviously, stuff like Path of Exile. It's going to feel a bit simple compared to what came after it, but it's still a lot of fun. It wouldn't have been copied so much if it weren't.

This weekend's Diablo 2: Resurrected technical alpha is singleplayer only, but the full game will include multiplayer, and there'll be a multiplayer test before release. If you want to get into either alpha, you can opt in on the official Diablo 2: Resurrected website, though Blizzard doesn't guarantee that everyone will get to participate. (We're giving away a few codes for this weekend's alpha if you want to put your name into that raffle hat.)

Diablo 2: Resurrected will be out before the end of the year, says Blizzard. It includes the expansion, Lord of Destruction, and all of the cinematics have been redone (those aren't in the alpha, so I can't show you what they look like, sadly). Blizzard is charging $40 for it, or $60 bundled with Diablo 3 and all of its expansions. It feels a little pricey for a graphical overhaul of a 21-year-old game, but it's certainly a big overhaul, and based on what I've played so far, it's in great shape. Hopefully the multiplayer works well. I don't think I'd pay $40 to run through Diablo 2 with new graphics solo, but if I can share a classic with a friend I might be convinced.
 

Lyric Suite

Converting to Islam
Joined
Mar 23, 2006
Messages
58,256
Wasn't a tranny amazon in the OG too? Funny thing, I've never played the amazon or the sorceress coz 20 years ago I thought playing a female char in a vidya is gay. I clearly remember we used to mock our mates who admitted playing the sorceress.

Btw I just watched a bit of Asmongold's VOD and the framerate in that alpha test is hilarious. If they don't fix that for the release it's gonna be an even bigger shitstorm than Reforged.

No, the nigger pally was in the original.
 

4249

I stalk the night
Patron
Joined
Nov 19, 2014
Messages
1,229
PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut Divinity: Original Sin 2
lso the loading screens worked in a weird way that you could actually move during them and Duriel could even attack you during them.

Wasn't that a thing in original diablo? I recall people complaining about ruined HC characters because they took too long to load into Duriel.

Could be that too, I can't remember exactly tbh. Something they should definitely fix though.
 

m_s0

Arcane
Joined
Jun 18, 2009
Messages
1,292
Nice plasticky look

Yeah, the UI is way less ornamental with much less detail, closer to D3.

The dark grey color is worse than the original light grey too. Less contrast.

There is no way they will capture the soul of D2 in this, the pozz will permeate the product. Thank God they can't take D2 away from us!
Didn't they do exactly that to Warcraft 3? Doesn't matter even if you added W3 keys to your bnet account - you have to pirate the original game to play it.
 

Citizen

Guest
Are they going to put tits on Diablo?

No tits allowed
WvmFLvL.png
 

Deflowerer

Arcane
Joined
May 22, 2013
Messages
2,076
Does anyone know if they are adding WASD key support for movement?
 

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.
Back
Top Bottom