Diablo IV

[Reinhardt]

started necro, summoned skellingtons, reached level 8, still same skellingtons summoned at the start of the game. many taktikool, very danger. tho one of them was at ~50% health once.

 

[Ryzer]

Reinhardt : This gayme is so awful, and easy and kind of shitty
Also Reinhardt: Hey guys I tried again my 156th playthrough on Diablo 4 playing the X class and guess what it sux.

 

[Rhobar121]

started necro, summoned skellingtons, reached level 8, still same skellingtons summoned at the start of the game. many taktikool, very danger. tho one of them was at ~50% health once.

The only time they can die is during boss fights with aoe melee

 

[Arbiter]

btw disconnects every second time i use town portal. probably because of other retards running in my city.

"Diablo 4 sucks".

Keeps playing the game.

 

[Reinhardt]

Keeps playing the game.

nah, just ran to the city with different classes to see armor looks. played for some time only with sorceress and barb.

 

[Perkel]

Talent trees: they're good, definite improvement over previous games

Fucking how?
diablo 2 synergies were more impactful than this
diablo 3 runes changing how entire skills worked or what they did was better than this
I simply cannot understand who the fuck designed the skill tree and thought "hmm yeah 3 resource if the enemy is stunned or 2% more damage on an enemy if it is caked in butter yeah this seems like a game changing choice here you go" was a good idea.

I would agree with that criticism if this was all there is. But skill tree is just one part of much more systems that live on each other.
Skill tree points are going for BASE stuff. So base life, base mana, base skill power etc.
So while 3-5% doesn't sound like a lot it starts to matter when you consider that you will be multiplying that base over something and then you can accompany it with gear.

So first you have legendary powers that take your base and do something with it.
Then you have paragon board which will further introduce stuff.
Then there is rune system that is kind of like poe support system where you can do X when Y happens etc.

 

[Reinhardt]

rogue looks like hobo in every available armor

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

Didn't D2 allow you to kill other players and take their stuff? What happened to that?

Your gear are just stat sticks a la D3 and although you might be running around with a bunch of weapons, you don't actually use any of them unless you train the appropriate attack skill. Have a bow on your back? You'll never use it if you're a melee guy, even to plink. Respec to be a bow guy? Well, now your sword is basically a strangely placed belt buckle. I hate that shit.

I'm guessing those options in the transmog system should've allowed you to make the stat sticks invisible but it seems bugged.

 

[Reinhardt]

barbarian - chaos warrior, sorceress - gypsy dancer, rogue - hobo, necro girl - no boobs. only druid left.

 

[Dadd]

necro girl - no boobs

And that's a good thing.

 

[Reinhardt]

necro girl - no boobs

And that's a good thing.

she's best looking from the bunch.

 

[Reinhardt]

btw why every wommyn starts with nose ring in character creation?

 

[Darboven]

Didn't D2 allow you to kill other players and take their stuff? What happened to that?

iirc you had to agree to getting killed and robbed - when another player turned hostile towards you, you had to accept or he couldnt attack (i think, its been decades).

 

[ArchAngel]

I just switched to Arekk's tornado build and it fucking wrecks. Much nicer than the Werewolf build I was using. I think Druid is actually ok it's just a little reliant on Legendary effects to make it work really well.

The problem is that Necro (and Sorc I guess) was playtested by a 5 year old so everyone is comparing the other classes to them.

Anyway I hit level 20 so I think I'm done for now, I will probably buy it on release but they really need to fix the lag/stutter issues.

I got my Druid to 25, tried all kind of combinations, settled on using Landslide to kill stuff as everything else does bad damage.
Then I got legendary one handed weapon that turns Tornadoes into homing missiles and switched to Tornados and it seems like best build for now.
I am not using any ultimate skills as their cooldowns are bonkers and they are not nearly strong enough to be worth 3 uses of other cooldown skills.

Also I switched back to normal difficulty from Veteran at about lvl 20 because Druid damage cannot keep up. Also I do not need bonus xp or gold.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Tried again this morning and it worked better until everyone else woke up. Stone Druid doesn't work too well, at least with the spec I chose, though I kind of assumed that this would bet he case. More damage against stunned / immobilized enemies, except such effects don't work on bosses (and I assume won't work on world bosses either). Without them you just do pitiful damage. I was chipping away at enemy HP while my friend's Necro just melted HP bars. I have a Unique weapon, too, so I can't imagine what it'd be like without one. The Vine Creeper is also an uglier spell effect / summon than in the original Diablo 2 LoD release, which is a shame. Also seems to be shit and useless again. When will my tentaclebro get what he's owed???

Landslide feels horrible to use because of the casting time and it has shit area range. I don't recommend it

I'm using it because smashing enemies with rocks is kind of satisfying, but yea the spells are pretty crappy if I look at the objective utility of it. Hitting fast moving targets like succubus is also a bit of a pain with the Stone spells. Overall they are shit and I'm not sure what purity of crack the designers were smoking when they designed these spells because it must've been some bad shit, but at least the animation and sound departments nailed it.

 

[Reinhardt]

rogue is probably worst class. looks like hobo and no awesome button. even her skills are hobo skills.

 

[Yosharian]

They weren't smoking crack, they were just too busy having fun with Necromancer

 

[Reever]

I got my Druid to 25, tried all kind of combinations, settled on using Pulverize to kill stuff as everything else does bad damage.
Then I got legendary one handed weapon that turns Tornadoes into homing missiles and switched to Tornados and it seems like best build for now.
I am not using any ultimate skills as their cooldowns are bonkers and they are not nearly strong enough to be worth 3 uses of other cooldown skills.

Also I switched back to normal difficulty from Veteran at about lvl 20 because Druid damage cannot keep up. Also I do need bonus xp or gold.

The difference between switching from Druid to Sorc is night and day. Sure, I could probably get Druid to do decent damage if I find the right legendary, or I can just spam one button on sorc and clear screens away without a second thought. And this is without mentioning how fucked up you are if you play melee as every boss in this game likes to stay in a puddle of his own shit.

 

[Reinhardt]

fun

Necromancer

 

[ArchAngel]

Tried again this morning and it worked better until everyone else woke up. Stone Druid doesn't work too well, at least with the spec I chose, though I kind of assumed that this would bet he case. More damage against stunned / immobilized enemies, except such effects don't work on bosses (and I assume won't work on world bosses either). Without them you just do pitiful damage. I was chipping away at enemy HP while my friend's Necro just melted HP bars. I have a Unique weapon, too, so I can't imagine what it'd be like without one. The Vine Creeper is also an uglier spell effect / summon than in the original Diablo 2 LoD release, which is a shame. Also seems to be shit and useless again. When will my tentaclebro get what he's owed???

Landslide feels horrible to use because of the casting time and it has shit area range. I don't recommend it

I'm using it because smashing enemies with rocks is kind of satisfying, but yea the spells are pretty crappy if I look at the objective utility of it. Hitting fast moving targets like succubus is also a bit of a pain with the Stone spells. Overall they are shit and I'm not sure what purity of crack the designers were smoking when they designed these spells because it must've been some bad shit, but at least the animation and sound departments nailed it.

Landslide has good single target damage but it sucks with slow animations that leave you standing in one place for too long as well as being dependant on these terramotes that run out fast in boss battles unless you made your whole build around collecting them (like also taking werebear smash that auto stuns if you use it only every 10s)

 

[Gamezor]

Yes, their entire business model is based on FOMO and whales. It's in all respects a mobile game.

I despise the log in every day shit, the battle passes, the little obnoxious bars filling up, the infinitesimal pavlovian shit drip that's fueling this garbage. I hate the very existence of this so-called game. I hate people in this very forum saying "oh well, I only have to wait an hour in queue to log in to play a Diablo game, it's alright". Fuck everything about this industry, from the mongoloids making these shitty products to their enablers, the consoomers.

This is something I noticed immediately as different when I played play d2r. The whole design is different because Saas and micro transactions weren’t invented yet when d2 came out. It’s really refreshing and then makes newer games worse. The entire design of something like d4 is around nudging you to spend more money.

Like drop rates in d2 are low but that’s just a design choice not to sell you more shit. I

 

[ArchAngel]

I got my Druid to 25, tried all kind of combinations, settled on using Pulverize to kill stuff as everything else does bad damage.
Then I got legendary one handed weapon that turns Tornadoes into homing missiles and switched to Tornados and it seems like best build for now.
I am not using any ultimate skills as their cooldowns are bonkers and they are not nearly strong enough to be worth 3 uses of other cooldown skills.

Also I switched back to normal difficulty from Veteran at about lvl 20 because Druid damage cannot keep up. Also I do need bonus xp or gold.

The difference between switching from Druid to Sorc is night and day. Sure, I could probably get Druid to do decent damage if I find the right legendary, or I can just spam one button on sorc and clear screens away without a second thought. And this is without mentioning how fucked up you are if you play melee as every boss in this game likes to stay in a puddle of his own shit.

Druid is extremely dependant on legendary aspects which is cool for build diversity in end game and I find it cool how items completely can change build which is something PoE has but it is usually locked behind end game bosses and not available to mere mortals BUT this system makes it irritating while leveling and just going through story levels.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

armor design is probably one of the few good things I can say about the game.

Even the armour looks are level scaled, your character looks like it's level 90 at level 3.

 

[smaug]

Going to try it out after work, is there proper co-op or the whole thing is just mmo with players all around the map?

 

[Seari]

Legendary drops are way too high, bit probably cuz beta. Hopefully