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I bought wolcen a week or two ago and played for like 3 or 4 hours and will never play again. Grim Dawn remains the only game in this genre I have ever enjoyed; maybe I will try Last Epoch when it is released for real and see how it goes. I have 1100 hours in Grim Dawn, UFB...maybe Diablo 2 I have 20..

oh, I yeah I did like Titan Quest, but it got boring before I could finish it..played it maybe 40 hours., POE is terrible, I tried Hades and sort of knew it was going to be shit before I even began playing and refunded it, fucking modernized reddit trash game-play and story, Van Helsing had weird camera angle, and combat was not impactful .........so refunded. I did like Torchlight 2 actually and finished it, but am not interested in Torchlight III.
 
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Still not an RPG
Some people might even argue that Diablo 1 killed the RPG genre.
Not really, it first piracy. People were not buying them, some fantastic companies went down, had they a perfect copy protection they would still be here. Then came the mmos and the few people still buying rpgs went toward those like UO daoc everquest. At last consoles and XBOX 360 bioware games were the final nail on the coffin.
 

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Divinity: Original Sin
Well, finished the mainstory. Surprisingly decent for Blizzard. The level scaling drains any will to continue playing it after finishing the campaign tho'
 

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Does the level scale to infinity or do you ever get to feel like a badass for all your work and buildporn/itemization?
 

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Does the level scale to infinity or do you ever get to feel like a badass for all your work and buildporn/itemization?

Scaling is weird. Open world regions have their minimum lvl. So one region can have minimum lvl 30 other one 15 another one 20 etc. Then there is upscaling to your level. So monsters don't stay at lvl 1 in opening area but upscale to your level. If you are 15 they will be 15 when you will go back.

But once you reach lvl 30 you reach maximum level of every area which means that for all intent and purpose world scales to you from lvl 30 to 50. Then at 50 stops again because it expects you to switch to higher difficulty.

As for personal power. Up to lvl ~50 you mostly tread water and you can't find anything on ground that would give you huge edge over content. Things change around lvl 50 when mods affixes start to get wide enough to roll much higher affixes that combined make difference.

Once you up difficulty tier to T3 you basically enter end game as it enables host of new features as well as new loot, new affixes and so on. You start very weak but soon you find better gear.

From lvl 50+ Monsters say they are scaled to you buy imho they barely change as if they are lvl 50 in stats.
 

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"Already, it is Blizzard Entertainment’s fastest-selling game of all time, with Blizzard’s highest pre-launch unit sales ever on both console and PC*

*Fastest selling based on more units sold on all platforms before launch"

So how many games did Activision-Blizzard had early launch? None? So this is fastest selling game that is compared to nothing, just to pre-orders. The way they are talking it looks like it sold worse than D3 day one (3.5m), but had more than D3's pre-orders (2m).

Just noticed they wrote Blizzard, not Activision lol, this shit is probably underperforming.
 

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"Already, it is Blizzard Entertainment’s fastest-selling game of all time, with Blizzard’s highest pre-launch unit sales ever on both console and PC*

*Fastest selling based on more units sold on all platforms before launch"

So how many games did Activision-Blizzard had early launch? None? So this is fastest selling game that is compared to nothing, just to pre-orders. The way they are talking it looks like it sold worse than D3 day one (3.5m), but had more than D3's pre-orders (2m).

Just noticed they wrote Blizzard, not Activision lol, this shit is probably underperforming.
Hard to say, but possibly. If they're including WoW expansions in that, the sales are likely significant.
 

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Does the level scale to infinity or do you ever get to feel like a badass for all your work and buildporn/itemization?

Scaling is weird. Open world regions have their minimum lvl. So one region can have minimum lvl 30 other one 15 another one 20 etc. Then there is upscaling to your level. So monsters don't stay at lvl 1 in opening area but upscale to your level. If you are 15 they will be 15 when you will go back.

But once you reach lvl 30 you reach maximum level of every area which means that for all intent and purpose world scales to you from lvl 30 to 50. Then at 50 stops again because it expects you to switch to higher difficulty.

As for personal power. Up to lvl ~50 you mostly tread water and you can't find anything on ground that would give you huge edge over content. Things change around lvl 50 when mods affixes start to get wide enough to roll much higher affixes that combined make difference.

Once you up difficulty tier to T3 you basically enter end game as it enables host of new features as well as new loot, new affixes and so on. You start very weak but soon you find better gear.

From lvl 50+ Monsters say they are scaled to you buy imho they barely change as if they are lvl 50 in stats.
Cheers, nice explanation :salute:
Friday is coming up and the temptation looms!
 

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Cheers, nice explanation :salute:
Friday is coming up and the temptation looms!
Don't you dare do it or everybody here will make fun of you.

Only weak people fear people making fun of them.

Honestly anyone who isn't arpg addict should wait for first expansion. The thing with such games is that they usually improve as time go and by going early you are playing the weakest version of it.

Thought sometimes developers fuck up and you got reverse where "improvements" hurt game in process like in POE.
 

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Cheers, nice explanation :salute:
Friday is coming up and the temptation looms!
Don't you dare do it or everybody here will make fun of you.
Only weak people fear people making fun of them.
Agreed. Crispy confessed to me on my profile page that he was scared of getting bullied for playing D&D so he never talked about it in his youth. Seems pretty cowardly if you ask me. Oh and I made sure I screencapped it in case he ever tries to delete it. It is my little jewel I shall keep forever.

Anyways this game wont end up like PoE. Blizzard are smart and they already have a strong foundation to build upon. PoE was never good.
 

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