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Dr1f7

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itt people continue to throw money at companies that aggressively hate them
 

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I can't see any reason to pay money for this when POE looks better and is free

POE doesn't look better and if you intend to play the game seriously it's not totally free. Not that it matters, because most people don't really get into POE based on the price.

I will now try to explain the appeal of D4, after playing it for the last 3 days. And I'm talking about the actual appeal of the finished product and not marketing speak. Basically, the game appeals to people who want a hack & slash which has a setting/game world they can immerse themselves in, akin to playing an Elders Scrolls game, for example. I'm talking about reading all the lore, talking to many non-quest specific NPCs (tons of these in the game) and doing every sidequest. The experience of playing the game is more akin to Divine Divinity and Sacred 1, rather than D2.

If the setting, the lore and the story (all sidequests included) don't interest you, than this game will do nothing for you. While the action and the loot is decent, it's not good enough to elevate the experience on its own.
 

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I can't see any reason to pay money for this when POE looks better and is free

POE doesn't look better and if you intend to play the game seriously it's not totally free. Not that it matters, because most people don't really get into POE based on the price.

I will now try to explain the appeal of D4, after playing it for the last 3 days. And I'm talking about the actual appeal of the finished product and not marketing speak. Basically, the game appeals to people who want a hack & slash which has a setting/game world they can immerse themselves in, akin to playing an Elders Scrolls game, for example. I'm talking about reading all the lore, talking to many non-quest specific NPCs (tons of these in the game) and doing every sidequest. The experience of playing the game is more akin to Divine Divinity and Sacred 1, rather than D1/D2.

If the setting, the lore and the story (all sidequests included) don't interest you, than this game will do nothing for you. While the action and the loot is decent, it's not good enough to elevate the experience on its own.
Was still deciding if I wanted to pull the trigger on this one for this weekend or not but its been a hell of a week and I just want some mindless clicking despite being a fan of tacticools and in depth rpgs.
Well my weekend is decided, thats exactly why I enjoyed d1 and d2. Never was into the endgame stuff much but leveling a few different classes and experiencing the 'world' was the draw for me.
Thanks new and improved Kruno! If I hate it you shall be judged ;)
 
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Cheers, nice explanation :salute:
Friday is coming up and the temptation looms!
Don't you dare do it or everybody here will make fun of you.
Only weak people fear people making fun of them.
Agreed. Crispy confessed to me on my profile page that he was scared of getting bullied for playing D&D so he never talked about it in his youth. Seems pretty cowardly if you ask me. Oh and I made sure I screencapped it in case he ever tries to delete it. It is my little jewel I shall keep forever.

Anyways this game wont end up like PoE. Blizzard are smart and they already have a strong foundation to build upon. PoE was never good.

King Crispy confided in me via DM that he jerks off to the JCPenney woman's lingerie catalog that come's to his mom's house in the mail, still does to this day, everytime he visits her.
 

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It was a joke crispy relax. Don't fucking get me redirected to rpghq again. I'm about to start playing D4 again and will probably upload more videos. My offer to bro-op still stands. You can afford $70.
 

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POE doesn't look better and if you intend to play the game seriously it's not totally free. Not that it matters, because most people don't really get into POE based on the price.

Technically i doubt people playing POE seriously spent less than people on D4. Myself I probably spent like 200$ over the years on stash tabs (and nothing more because fuck micro).
 

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I chuckle at people who brag about PoE being "free to play". That's like running to your friends and telling them you just ate a piece of dogshit you found on the ground and bragging you didn't have to pay for it.

So far I don't feel cheated for what I paid for D4. This is a game I see myself returning to for years just like I did for the last three.
 

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I chuckle at people who brag about PoE being "free to play". That's like running to your friends and telling them you just ate a piece of dogshit you found on the ground and bragging you didn't have to pay for it.

So far I don't feel cheated for what I paid for D4. This is a game I see myself returning to for years just like I did for the last three.
Liking a game isn’t akin to eating “dogshit." It is just a video game, and you need to fix the hate in your heart that will destroy your life.
 

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POE doesn't look better and if you intend to play the game seriously it's not totally free. Not that it matters, because most people don't really get into POE based on the price.

Technically i doubt people playing POE seriously spent less than people on D4. Myself I probably spent like 200$ over the years on stash tabs (and nothing more because fuck micro).
I spent about 30 e into PoE, got 1000+ hours out of it and hope to get another 1000+ out of PoE2
 

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doubt POE2 will improve that as it is just POE1 + some small tweaks and new graphics.
so... just like d4 compared to d3?
Difference being that D3 is dogshit and 'small tweaks' to D3 still doesn't make a good game. Yes, there are significant improvements on the art and atmosphere but the actual game mechanics are still really bad. Cooldowns, level scaling, simplistic skill system (paragon system is effectively +5 to attributes level up with some variation with glyphs) and incredibly bad itemisation (seriously there isn't even stat requirements on items). Also the concept of 'ultimates' from D3 is still retarded, this isn't a fucking MOBA game.

PoE has its problems. Much of it is tied to the game being bloated as fuck after all these years, but there is still an aspiration by the devs to implement sufficiently complex mechanics for builds. For this reason alone, PoE 2 has a much better chance of being an actual improvement.
 

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I can't see any reason to pay money for this when POE looks better and is free

POE doesn't look better and if you intend to play the game seriously it's not totally free. Not that it matters, because most people don't really get into POE based on the price.

I will now try to explain the appeal of D4, after playing it for the last 3 days. And I'm talking about the actual appeal of the finished product and not marketing speak. Basically, the game appeals to people who want a hack & slash which has a setting/game world they can immerse themselves in, akin to playing an Elders Scrolls game, for example. I'm talking about reading all the lore, talking to many non-quest specific NPCs (tons of these in the game) and doing every sidequest. The experience of playing the game is more akin to Divine Divinity and Sacred 1, rather than D2.

If the setting, the lore and the story (all sidequests included) don't interest you, than this game will do nothing for you. While the action and the loot is decent, it's not good enough to elevate the experience on its own.

Lol, muh immersion. How can you talk about immersion when the character just runs forward spamming overdesigned skills, while monsters don't even flinch. They glow white and a damage number pops up. Look at the death animations in D1. Compare killing a hidden one to killing something in D3/D4. See how certain monsters recoil, while others like black knights immediately recover. D4 they just glow white and run at you. In general, monster design is bad and wow inspired. How can you talk about immersion when your character can buy gear for real money, straight out of the game? Lore? Story? Blizzard can't write anything worth shit. Ever since SC2 all their stories have been complete garbage, D4 is no exception. This atmosphere and immersion are exactly what elevated D1 and D2. But D3 and D4 lack.
 

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How can you talk about immersion when your character can buy gear for real money, straight out of the game? Lore? Story? Blizzard can't write anything worth shit. Ever since SC2 all their stories have been complete garbage, D4 is no exception. This atmosphere and immersion are exactly what elevated D1 and D2. But D3 and D4 lack.
You can buy skins, as in cosmetics. Not gear.
Say what you will regarding opinions but get your facts right.
 

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How can you talk about immersion when your character can buy gear for real money, straight out of the game? Lore? Story? Blizzard can't write anything worth shit. Ever since SC2 all their stories have been complete garbage, D4 is no exception. This atmosphere and immersion are exactly what elevated D1 and D2. But D3 and D4 lack.
You can buy skins, as in cosmetics. Not gear.
Say what you will regarding opinions but get your facts right.

You completely missed the point you moron.
 

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I can't see any reason to pay money for this when POE looks better and is free

POE doesn't look better and if you intend to play the game seriously it's not totally free. Not that it matters, because most people don't really get into POE based on the price.

I will now try to explain the appeal of D4, after playing it for the last 3 days. And I'm talking about the actual appeal of the finished product and not marketing speak. Basically, the game appeals to people who want a hack & slash which has a setting/game world they can immerse themselves in, akin to playing an Elders Scrolls game, for example. I'm talking about reading all the lore, talking to many non-quest specific NPCs (tons of these in the game) and doing every sidequest. The experience of playing the game is more akin to Divine Divinity and Sacred 1, rather than D2.

If the setting, the lore and the story (all sidequests included) don't interest you, than this game will do nothing for you. While the action and the loot is decent, it's not good enough to elevate the experience on its own.

Lol, muh immersion. How can you talk about immersion when the character just runs forward spamming overdesigned skills, while monsters don't even flinch. They glow white and a damage number pops up. Look at the death animations in D1. Compare killing a hidden one to killing something in D3/D4. See how certain monsters recoil, while others like black knights immediately recover. D4 they just glow white and run at you. In general, monster design is bad and wow inspired. How can you talk about immersion when your character can buy gear for real money, straight out of the game? Lore? Story? Blizzard can't write anything worth shit. Ever since SC2 all their stories have been complete garbage, D4 is no exception. This atmosphere and immersion are exactly what elevated D1 and D2. But D3 and D4 lack.

I talked about this a lot previously

devs are spending too much time making skills *look* good and too little time making them *feel* good

the cult skill from D2 Zeal isn't flashy but still feels incredibly crisp after 20 years

It had a very satisfying CHUNK CHUNK CHUNK sound like you were really hacking into their flesh and the monsters went ER AGH URGH with each hit, then a loud satisfying death scream when they die
 

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Lol, muh immersion. How can you talk about immersion when the character just runs forward spamming overdesigned skills, while monsters don't even flinch. They glow white and a damage number pops up. Look at the death animations in D1. Compare killing a hidden one to killing something in D3/D4. See how certain monsters recoil, while others like black knights immediately recover. D4 they just glow white and run at you. In general, monster design is bad and wow inspired. How can you talk about immersion when your character can buy gear for real money, straight out of the game? Lore? Story? Blizzard can't write anything worth shit. Ever since SC2 all their stories have been complete garbage, D4 is no exception. This atmosphere and immersion are exactly what elevated D1 and D2. But D3 and D4 lack.
 

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