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Divinity Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition
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PM me with your name, address and a picture of your sister.
Typical Black posting sequence:
LOL X PEOPLE ARE DUMB FOR Y REASON
"but you've got Y reason wrong"
WELL Z THEN
"nope, also wrong"
NOBODY CARES
ur just jelly
Lhynn
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Larian won me over with D:OS, mechanically speaking that game is fucking amazing. They poured their hearts and souls on it and it shows, and there where this close to make a great one (havent seen dedication like that in a long time). Probably in a few years when all the areas get the polish the starting area had we will have one. Plus the potential from the community making good modules is there, and its something gud.
Divinity 2 was pretty good too. A fun game that had a really good expansion.
The rest i didnt really care for.
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They're adding some new skills (like throwing, wands, dual-wielding) plus a hardcore mode with upgraded monsters. I think they're finished with companions.
Sense of humor - 0PoE is not even out yet. And if we are talking about beta patches, PoE got at least half a dozen. I don't get what's there to laugh on?DOS patches- 3, I think
WL2 patches- 1, soon 2.
PoE- 0.
We're not storyfags.
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I really don't appreciate how your argument is making things up. Some of my favorite RPGs have next to no story, such as Wizardry 1 and 8 or Dungeon Master or Knights of the Chalice or, hell, Realms of Arkania with its clumsy (yet somewhat charming) writing. I am very fond of games that focus on tactical combat. You will need to learn that you can't just pigeon hole people into categories. I like every genre of RPG, solely on its merits as a game. Naturally if it's focused on the story I expect it to be good, if it's focused on the combat I expect that to be good and when it's focused on the exploration I expect that to be good. That's why I don't like Skyrim: it's not even the writing, though it's a flaw; it's how similar every dungeon is, making exploration unrewarding. It is a bit similar in this game as there's a whole lot less 'neat things' to find, unlike Ultima 7 where exploring randomly felt rewarding on its own merits.
I object to your wrong classification and I feel like you haven't read my posts carefully if this is the stance you're going to take.
I object to your wrong classification and I feel like you haven't read my posts carefully if this is the stance you're going to take.
Wulfric Pinewood
Prophet
Yeah D:OS is a crpg masterpiece, for me its a symbol of whole genre reborn. From previous games of Larian, Divinity II: Director's Cut [DII with Addon and patches] was great, but first 2 divinity games were mediocre.
Anyway, I think there is no any sense to aruge which crpg is better or why, for me all crpgs are great becouse i love them, dedicated years of gaming for them and thats all.
For example, as Jasede said Skyrim had mediocre story writing and its dungeons were almost as generic as in the Daggerfall. But its hard not to like this game, when you look from perpsective of whole series, their lore and modding potential. I spend over 550 hours in Skyrim from 2011 [haven't played it for a long time now], and play with mods etc. , i created 2 little mods myself and had almost 50gb of installed mods from Nexus for it. Im judging Skyrim as part of the whole Elder Scrolls universe games , look at website Imperial Library, ammount of lore and story content for these games are really deep.
I think Bethesda shoud hire more talented writers and designers to show real greatness of that universe potential. For now they are realeasing mediocre crpg games, with great audio-video at their release times [look at Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim at their times], but what these games really need is more soul into their worlds. For example Skyrim without installed fanmade mod called Interesting Npcs [near 2gb of almost over hundred npcs with great voice acting,nice quests,many dialogue lines, some of them are followers] is boring as fuck. That's the problem, for me new ES games without mods are close to unplayable.
In comparison with D:OS, Fallouts [ i mean original ones], Ultimas, heck even IWD or BG ,etc. they lack large number of memorable characters, lack long and interesting dialogues and it is what kills role playing. Good crpg gives you feeling " wait a moment, i'm really walking inside this world, need a break
"
They [ES games] are based not on story, dialogues, awesome quests but on almost generic fights, similar quests etc. While games like D:OS give you complete world, packed with interesting quests, nice stories, not generic npcs, fine writing, great mechanics and YOU DO NOT NEED MODS to ENJOY THEM. But as i said at first, lets enjoy fact that we have both AAA titles like Witcher 3 or DA:I, Mass Effect or like that [which i not praise too much] , and great smaller in terms of marketing titles which are true gems like D:OS, Lords of Xulima [really try it!], Wasteland 2 or upcoming Pillars , Torment etc.
There will be always developers oriented on budget only and sales, like Bioware and sometimes they can make good game but fall into "too much AAA philosophy" , and we will always have smaller pearls like Heroes of Broken Land, Underrail and mentioned above. I will play them all for sure, as im playing most of crpgs i can, even if i don't like some of their concepts. I just love kick into other worlds, thats all.
And great crpg really don't need innovative and groundbreaking story or amazing graphics, it can be "kill the evil dragon" one , but what it really needs is:
-Good Npc's with interesting dialogues - it really need some feeling and time
-Great mechanics , including deep combat system and character development/creation
-Well designed world, full of details, where you feel that designers put whole heart into creation
-Nice lore
-Varied quests with lot of satisfaction, not only "kill 10 rats and gain 10 exp"
-It's nice when player can "shape" the world, even little by his actions
Anyway, I think there is no any sense to aruge which crpg is better or why, for me all crpgs are great becouse i love them, dedicated years of gaming for them and thats all.
For example, as Jasede said Skyrim had mediocre story writing and its dungeons were almost as generic as in the Daggerfall. But its hard not to like this game, when you look from perpsective of whole series, their lore and modding potential. I spend over 550 hours in Skyrim from 2011 [haven't played it for a long time now], and play with mods etc. , i created 2 little mods myself and had almost 50gb of installed mods from Nexus for it. Im judging Skyrim as part of the whole Elder Scrolls universe games , look at website Imperial Library, ammount of lore and story content for these games are really deep.
I think Bethesda shoud hire more talented writers and designers to show real greatness of that universe potential. For now they are realeasing mediocre crpg games, with great audio-video at their release times [look at Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim at their times], but what these games really need is more soul into their worlds. For example Skyrim without installed fanmade mod called Interesting Npcs [near 2gb of almost over hundred npcs with great voice acting,nice quests,many dialogue lines, some of them are followers] is boring as fuck. That's the problem, for me new ES games without mods are close to unplayable.
In comparison with D:OS, Fallouts [ i mean original ones], Ultimas, heck even IWD or BG ,etc. they lack large number of memorable characters, lack long and interesting dialogues and it is what kills role playing. Good crpg gives you feeling " wait a moment, i'm really walking inside this world, need a break
"They [ES games] are based not on story, dialogues, awesome quests but on almost generic fights, similar quests etc. While games like D:OS give you complete world, packed with interesting quests, nice stories, not generic npcs, fine writing, great mechanics and YOU DO NOT NEED MODS to ENJOY THEM. But as i said at first, lets enjoy fact that we have both AAA titles like Witcher 3 or DA:I, Mass Effect or like that [which i not praise too much] , and great smaller in terms of marketing titles which are true gems like D:OS, Lords of Xulima [really try it!], Wasteland 2 or upcoming Pillars , Torment etc.
There will be always developers oriented on budget only and sales, like Bioware and sometimes they can make good game but fall into "too much AAA philosophy" , and we will always have smaller pearls like Heroes of Broken Land, Underrail and mentioned above. I will play them all for sure, as im playing most of crpgs i can, even if i don't like some of their concepts. I just love kick into other worlds, thats all.
And great crpg really don't need innovative and groundbreaking story or amazing graphics, it can be "kill the evil dragon" one , but what it really needs is:
-Good Npc's with interesting dialogues - it really need some feeling and time
-Great mechanics , including deep combat system and character development/creation
-Well designed world, full of details, where you feel that designers put whole heart into creation
-Nice lore
-Varied quests with lot of satisfaction, not only "kill 10 rats and gain 10 exp"
-It's nice when player can "shape" the world, even little by his actions
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Games with no movement significance and thus no positional tactics = tactical combat
Nothing neat to find in DOS.
Something tells me you didn't try exploring randomly in DOS.
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I don't understand why you have to be such a jerk about it. I like tactical games you nitwit. I love Incubation and JA2 and ToEE and KotC. Yes, I do explore randomly in all my games. And I don't understand why you need to resort to personal attacks. I'm really not certain why you're behaving this way. You're trying to depict me in a manner that is simply untruthful and it's not conductive to a debate. It'd be like attacking someone's position, but that position is merely made up.
Because you're thin-skinned and easy to provoke.
Lol debating why person A likes a video game while person B doesn't. Very conductive use of time.
Delterius
Arcane
Now we need to page some wizadry fans of the weaboo variety to balance this enlightening conversation.
Lyric Suite
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I haven't played any Larian game yet. Will buy Original Sin once it is on sale because i'm a bum. However, best i can tell it seems people liked the original Divinities not because they were particularly good, but because they seemed to be made by people who cared or had good intentions, but simply didn't have the talent or means necessary to make a great game. Apparently, now they do, so those good intentions eventually paid off, and everybody is congratulating Larian for their commitment through out the years, even after so many mediocre efforts.
Would this be correct?
Would this be correct?
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