Divinity Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition

[Strange Fellow]

The voice actor for the cheese vendor

 

[agris]

I’m beginning to understand Larian fans.

 

[Jimmious]

What did DOS:EE fuck up - except for the cheese vendor change?

 

[Abu Antar]

What did DOS:EE fuck up - except for the cheese vendor change?

They streamlined character building in a bad way.

 

[Shrimp]

What did DOS:EE fuck up - except for the cheese vendor change?

No idea, the 'dex is the only place where I've seen people prefer the classic version over the EE, yet I don't recall seeing the specific reasons mentioned anywhere.
Your guess is as good as mine, but if I were to pick something it'd probably be one of the things that were either changed or added with the EE's release: The addition of grenades/wands, full voice over (which in some cases changed the VAs for the existing voiced lines), the game's final section being remade and the removal of some(?) spells. The only spell I remember being removed was a fire spell that created a lava surface, but I'm sure there were more abilities that were altered or removed.

 

[Murk]

What did DOS:EE fuck up - except for the cheese vendor change?

I don't think it fucked things up, but some changes that some are probably opposed to is the reduction in the quantity of spells and skills. Most easily state, in the original there are multiple healing spells (restoration) in the water magic tree. EE made it a single one that scales with INT and hydromancy level.

I prefer to not have redundancies in skills, but each their own. I prefer EE for sure, especially given the grenades which I loved to use.

 

[Valky]

What did DOS:EE fuck up - except for the cheese vendor change?

Quest markers, shitty VA, balance to nerf everything into the ground and remove fun across the board, multiplayer and console support shit up the UI and casualized the game in general.

 

[SniperHF]

I think the positives and negatives of the EE are exaggerated. On the whole I prefer the classic version but it's not a huge difference.

Classic:
I think it's just better balanced. There are more cheese builds but if you don't play a cheese build the game is better on the whole end to end.
Visually I think it looks slightly better style wise. This is marginal but the shadows are more nuanced, the fixed perspective hides some of the map flaws, and the colors are less exaggerated.
Runs like shit.
The story is more subtle, mostly early.
Better quality voice acting (particularly the PCs)
Situational skills add variety. Fewer plateaus in skill learning.


EE:
The engine runs a fuck ton better. Classic runs like poop and always has. The EE brings DX11 which is far better optimized on current gen cards.
With the better engine comes things like increased grass counts and more dense bushes and such.
Fixing some of the thieving stuff like backstab indicators.
Slightly easier inventory management.
Tactician mode is slightly harder than classic hard mode, but not as much as it should be if there weren't other balance changes.
Grenades and Wands are trash and way overkill elements on the field.
Normal difficulty is way easier than normal on classic.
More exposition dumps.
More quest markers.
Better journal entries.
Some extra end game content.
More voice acting.
Cleans up some crafting annoyances, better recipe system.


tl;dr
The things that make classic more attractive are soft qualities, the stuff that make the EE more attractive are playability concerns.
I think the way they tried to patch up the story to make it more obvious what was going on made it worse on the whole.

 

[agris]

I recall Darth Roxor having some OG v. EE opinions. Care to share (or link) them with us?

 

[Shrimp]

I see. I was under the impression that the amount of changes brought with the EE version was relatively small, but it would appear that I was mistaken.
It almost makes me want to replay the original version to experience it first-hand since I'm moderately interested in seeing how the original game handled character building, but I'm not sure I'd actually notice the subtle differences since it's been years since I played the EE version.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I recall Darth Roxor having some OG v. EE opinions. Care to share (or link) them with us?

My biggest gripe with the EE was that it broke more than it fixed. First thing was the difficulty, where EE tactician was all around significantly easier than OG. Second was the entire endgame, which already sucked in the OG, and yet they managed to make it worse. And third was the story, which was also like point 2 - it was already terrible in the OG, and yet they managed to make it even more terrible.

SniperHF mentions that the OG 'ran like shit' for him or some such, but here my experience is also very different. I had no trubble with the OG, while with the EE I suffered through a lot of problems with the netcode, including corrupted saves and constant connection timeouts in coop.

I also very much disliked all the voiceover they added everywhere, because it was pretty freaking bad. Not to mention they changed the cheese vendor. NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY DID TO THE CHEESE VENDOR.

 

[catfood]

Fuck the cheese vendor in the ass with a tenebrium axe.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

I restarted both the 1st and 2nd D:OS several times and the zany shit gets me every time, i lose interest fast and quit.

 

[no-return]

I've started playing D:OS classic recently and its my most hated game now. Worst RPG I ever played. It is worse RPG than Skyrim.
Its like they tried to make it look like old classic rpgs, with isometric view and walls of texts. Just for looks.
And game limits you by level areas, and you always fight enemies same level as you. So it is like level scaled, but without freedom.

And they think reloading 10 times is a normal process of playing games? It is not. in Fallouts, Baldurs gate, Dragon age when you die it shows "you died, game over" not just load game.
Developers of D:OS should watch on youtube how people playing Baldur's gate 2 blind with no reloads.

I can't believe the same people will do next Baldur's gate.
It will be worse than Fallout 3. It will be like Fallout 3 but with isometric view, static world and npcs, with story and events put into text walls.

 

[Rivmusique]

Always great when these complaints make it clear the posters main issue is "I died too much, why aren't I good at this??"

 

[Valky]

I've started playing D:OS classic recently and its my most hated game now. Worst RPG I ever played. It is worse RPG than Skyrim.
Its like they tried to make it look like old classic rpgs, with isometric view and walls of texts. Just for looks.
And game limits you by level areas, and you always fight enemies same level as you. So it is like level scaled, but without freedom.

And they think reloading 10 times is a normal process of playing games? It is not. in Fallouts, Baldurs gate, Dragon age when you die it shows "you died, game over" not just load game.
Developers of D:OS should watch on youtube how people playing Baldur's gate 2 blind with no reloads.

I can't believe the same people will do next Baldur's gate.
It will be worse than Fallout 3. It will be like Fallout 3 but with isometric view, static world and npcs, with story and events put into text walls.

What a way to start out your journey on RPG codex.

 

[Jarpie]

 

[no-return]

So I've "learned" how to play this game, using AI exploits like path blocking, summons, charm, quick save/reload at every step.
Lost

Spoiler

Bairdotr. Why I had no option to persuade her? No option to resurrect her?

Sure, why would anyone consider more options when reloading is solution to everything in this game?

 

[kyubajin]

Hello everyone, new guy here. I watch a couple amazing documentaries about Larian Studios that made me give Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition a go and 10 hours later I'm absolutely amazed. Brief introduction, this is not my first cRPG, as a matter of fact I actually played Divine Divinity back then and absolutely loved it. Had tried to get into hardcore cRPGs before with Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment and Icewind Dale but always lost interest. Played and beat Pillars of Eternity and had a blast, however DOS:EE is a different kind of awesome. I know for a fact that part II is a much better game, but I wanted to play and finish the original first. Anyway, glad to be here

 

[Lacrymas]

Hardcore RPGs like Baulder's Gate and Planetescape Tournament.

 

[m_s0]

So years after picking this up I finally sat down for a proper go. Combat is decent, even though so far this is 'status effect: the game' which, turns out, gets a bit irritating if you base your entire game around it.

Otherwise the progression at the beginning seems machine-tooled to the point where it feels like the game has level scaling, even though it doesn't (does it?). My primary issue.

The writing needs to be chopped in half and re-done pretty much from scratch. The more inconsequential it is, the better it is, and if you're not on board with soothsaying bulls or whatever no amount of effort will help those, so I guess it's the critical path that needs real attention from a team of (soon to be traumatized) editors. Wordy doesn't even begin to describe it, it's painful to slog through.

S'okay, overall.

 

[Lacrymas]

There's no level-scaling, but items are level-scaled, so it's basically the same thing.

 

[m_s0]

I suspected something was afoot.

 

[Shrimp]

I might be wrong here but I thought items were based on the level of the enemy that dropped them. Random loot in containers are definitely scaled to your level though

 

[Strange Fellow]

I might be wrong here but I thought items were based on the level of the enemy that dropped them.

This is definitely the case.

Random loot in containers are definitely scaled to your level though

This I'm not sure about. I thought loot scaled by area, not character level.