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[mediocrepoet]

I dont think I need to say that this isnt reflect in the woman and that they range from masculine to disgusting.

DA:O had fetishistic female stereotypes as party members. "The Witch" - the bad, dangerous type of girl. "The Pure, Religious Virgin" - with the caveat that Leliana obviosuly wasn't a virgin anymore. And finally, "The Mature". Need I say more.

You forgot the muscle girl.

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It's such a bummer that Bioware wasn't progressive enough to let you get your rocks off.

 

[9ted6]

DA:O had fetishistic female stereotypes as party members. "The Witch" - the bad, dangerous type of girl. "The Pure, Religious Virgin" - with the caveat that Leliana obviosuly wasn't a virgin anymore. And finally, "The Mature". Need I say more.

eh, I can kind of agree with Morrigan here, she's kind of like an unloved puppy that the player tries to fix, at first at least, but Leliana is no pure, religious virgin, she is a spy and seductress than only fled to the cloister after being hunted. And Wynne is really just your grandma, tho my character is an old wizened mage so we should be the same age, sadly no old people romance.

Morrigan's very obviously the bad girl crazy witch type, literally, and unless you deliberately convince Leliana to ditch her faith she's legit about it and regrets her past, so she can double as either a pure religious girl or seductress Bond lady.

Gaynes is way more relaxed in BG3, while Bioware was and is simply obsessed. These people even in private time emphasized how important it was to them. Where Gaider wrote a zealous note about how important character Krem is, Larian simply posts a video of actresses talking about how nice they fucked for the game.

BG3's arguably the most sexual non-porngame ever made, to the point parts of it almost are a porngame complete with full nudity sex scenes animated even worse than DAO's 14 years ago. Almost every character is aggressively sexual and there's sexual dialogue options everywhere.

The writers were either horny degenerates at all times or were pandering to that crowd with every choice they made. DA2 has Isabela and she's unbearable but that's it, then Inquisition has two or three sex obsessed characters who are also terrible, but almost the whole cast of BG3 consists of bi sex addicts.

Zevran in Origins is the closest similarity the game has but there's more going on in his dialogue than that and his focus on sex is made out to be a bad thing compared to the empowering and brave cuckoldry of BG3's women.

 

[Lacrymas]

How is the crazy witch a fetish? If anything, Morrigan is the wild woman type that needs taming. Leliana is a nice subversion of the innocent virgin, though, she admits to having a lot of sexual experience very early on and says she went to the convent in order to escape that for a while. If you were hoping to corrupt the chaste nun, that ship has sailed a long time ago. If anyone, Alistair is the innocent virgin. DA:O is much better at handling these aspects than BG3. BG3 is basically someone's (very unrealistic) magical realm.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

How is the crazy witch a fetish?

You've seem to have missed the whole "i want a goth gf" thing going on for decades

 

[Lacrymas]

Big tiddy goth gfs are hardly crazy witches.

 

[Delterius]

Big tiddy goth gfs are hardly crazy witches.

champagne and sparkling wine type of situation

 

[sebas]

Based on first impressions and general appearances. Leliana retains that religiosity throughout the game and this is reflected even by the romance-related dialogue as well, her past is kept in the background. I wasn't completely serious about the Wynne part.

Leliana the current bisexual nun and past lesbian lover of a seductress thief retains..."religiosity"? No wait, what did you call her, a stereotype for "The Pure, Religious Virgin" woman?

 

[Aarwolf]

Big tiddy goth gfs are hardly crazy witches.

Here, in potato land, they are. And I love them.

 

[Vic]

Based on first impressions and general appearances. Leliana retains that religiosity throughout the game and this is reflected even by the romance-related dialogue as well, her past is kept in the background. I wasn't completely serious about the Wynne part.

Leliana the current bisexual nun and past lesbian lover of a seductress thief retains..."religiosity"? No wait, what did you call her, a stereotype for "The Pure, Religious Virgin" woman?

they never played the game, Leliana is the naughtiest of them all

 

[sebas]

How is the crazy witch a fetish?

You've seem to have missed the whole "i want a goth gf" thing going on for decades

Why are you guys calling her a goth, because of the black makeup, because nowadays only fat goth girls cosplay her? There's no "goth" in her character, no inner demons, no depressive neurotic helplessness, no devil's delight. She's just a straight up swamp witch excited and curios about meeting men. Yeah, she's angsty with society but that comes from a feeling of superiority.

 

[Camel]

DA2 NPC straight-up calls Leliana a trickster if you mention her. Yeah, I agree Leliana is well-written subversion of your usual religious character in fantasy. Morrigan and her have interesting banter of an atheist and a religious person. She's a born again Andrastian who doesn't shy from using her charms and seduction up to participating in a threesome/foursome if you "harden" her.

 

[Lacrymas]

Morrigan's make-up isn't even all that dark

 

[sebas]

DA2 NPC straight-up calls Leliana a trickster if you mention her.

And that she most definitely is: Bard, Nun, Spymaster, Bisexual, The Divine, Orgy Gower and the list goes on. A very memorable character but so very much of her sits on the shoulders of the voice actress. Which is not a bad thing, but definitely not a great compliment to her writing.

 

[Camel]

And that she most definitely is: Bard, Nun, Spymaster, Bisexual, The Divine, Orgy Gower and the list goes on. A very memorable character but so very much of her sits on the shoulders of the voice actress. Which is not a bad thing, but definitely not a great compliment to her writing.

DA:O has a cast of larger-than-life characters - Flemeth, Leliana and Morrigan to name a few. I'm quite fond of her voice actress Corinne Kempa with the lovely French accent too. Kath Soucie hammed it up with a fake accent in the Leliana's Song DLC as her Bard mentor.

 

[Semiurge]

How is the crazy witch a fetish? If anything, Morrigan is the wild woman type that needs taming.

That too. Her design (and attitude) reminds me of Marsha the Maneater from The Howling

and the wild witch Conan has sex with in Barbarian.

Based on first impressions and general appearances. Leliana retains that religiosity throughout the game and this is reflected even by the romance-related dialogue as well, her past is kept in the background. I wasn't completely serious about the Wynne part.

Leliana the current bisexual nun and past lesbian lover of a seductress thief retains..."religiosity"? No wait, what did you call her, a stereotype for "The Pure, Religious Virgin" woman?

She's always going on about the Maker.

DA2 NPC straight-up calls Leliana a trickster if you mention her. Yeah, I agree Leliana is well-written subversion of your usual religious character in fantasy. Morrigan and her have interesting banter of an atheist and a religious person. She's a born again Andrastian who doesn't shy from using her charms and seduction up to participating in a threesome/foursome if you "harden" her.

She also fills the "repentant sinner" checkbox.

 

[General Disarray]

Oh please she's just a classic nineties hipster indie girl. Indie girls in the nineties was very more hippish and dark/"deep". Artsy in a word.

 

[sebas]

DA:O is much better at handling these aspects than BG3. BG3 is basically someone's (very unrealistic) magical realm.

I put a lot of it on voice acting. Take Wyll for example he is by no means worse written than Keldorn but the BG2 voice actor took the heroic theme and ran circles with it whereas Wyll sounds like whimpering weasel you wouldn't take to a bar, let alone a battlefield.

DA:O has a cast of larger-than-life characters - Flemeth

And the exact same can be said of Flemeth and Gail, two supernatural characters with polar opposite voice acting. Flemeth's voice extrudes power, knowledge and wisdom whereas Gail sounds like he's yet to study how to tie his shoes (or pants for that matter) nevermind the effort required to become THE GREATEST WIZARD IN FAERUN!

 

[sebas]

She also fills the "repentant sinner" checkbox.

If killing soldiers and motivating it by heresy is repentant then I dunno, man. Maybe it's just her french roots, they do love a good judgement.

 

[Vic]

She's always going on about the Maker.

weird, in my game she's mostly talking about clothes and shoes and getting in bitch fights with morrigan about who gets to ride my cock tonight

 

[9ted6]

DA2 NPC straight-up calls Leliana a trickster if you mention her. Yeah, I agree Leliana is well-written subversion of your usual religious character in fantasy. Morrigan and her have interesting banter of an atheist and a religious person. She's a born again Andrastian who doesn't shy from using her charms and seduction up to participating in a threesome/foursome if you "harden" her.

Hardening her involves convincing her to give up on religion though. If you don't harden her she has no part in any of that and won't even let you do it on your own if you're romancing her. Only time religion comes up for her when hardened is she'll try to kill you if you poison the sacred ashes but can be talked down, whereas when unhardened she fights you to the death either way if you try it.

There's also changed dialogue. Zevran hits on her and when she's hardened she returns it, even if she's romanced, but if she's not hardened she's disgusted by him whether she's romanced or not. Far as the bi angle goes she seems to be written to prefer men. Other NPCs make fun of her for staring at the male PC all the time, which doesn't happen for a female PC.

So yeah, she's a slutty spy if you convince her to be one, but if you don't she sticks to being a sincerely religious cloister girl. Both of those are fetishes depending on who you ask though. If we're gonna talk DA2 we can't ignore how every returning character gets assassinated, see Anders the flamboyantly gay psycho murderer.

 

[Semiurge]

There's also changed dialogue. Zevran hits on her and when she's hardened she returns it, even if she's romanced, but if she's not hardened she's disgusted by him whether she's romanced or not. Far as the bi angle goes she seems to be written to prefer men. Other NPCs make fun of her for staring at the male PC all the time, which doesn't happen for a female PC.

The party banter changing according to the circumstances was great, but unfortunately the banter options are based on chance, and the probabilities greatly favor the generic options. There are also some romance-related lines of dialogue between the PC and party members the PC is not romancing, but only outside of the party camp and even that may depend on who's in your party at the moment. There are only a few other places in the game where engaging party members in chat makes sense, such as the tavern and the brothel in Denerim. This is why I never expected it and only encountered it when I clicked on a party member by accident.

 

[Vic]

did anybody solve the DA:O stutter that occurs after a while of playing? as is I have to restart the game every 10 minutes or so when doing a dungeon as the stutter becomes more and more extreme.

 

[Delterius]

did anybody solve the DA:O stutter that occurs after a while of playing? as is I have to restart the game every 10 minutes or so when doing a dungeon as the stutter becomes more and more extreme.

10 minutes is extreme but I remember DA:O having memory leak issues that required a restart after a few hours of play. But again, stuttering 10 minutes might be a 'new hardware / driver' problem compounding the issue?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

All of this talk makes me want to replay DAO and DAA

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

did anybody solve the DA:O stutter that occurs after a while of playing? as is I have to restart the game every 10 minutes or so when doing a dungeon as the stutter becomes more and more extreme.

10 minutes is extreme but I remember DA:O having memory leak issues that required a restart after a few hours of play. But again, stuttering 10 minutes might be a 'new hardware / driver' problem compounding the issue?

Denerim is a very heavy crash intensive zone. Random crashes are fixed with a 4gb patch.