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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Camel

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Dragon Age: The Veilguard strips your RPG party down to two companions, but they'll be "deeper" with a lot more banter
"Two's company, three's a crowd," the saying goes, unless the first two are warriors and the third one is a priest, in which case the superior proverb is surely "three's a moderately balanced squad, two's a massive liability"? Here to put such kitchen wisdom to the test is BioWare's Dragon Age: The Veilguard, which "only" allows you to bring two companions into the fray, one fewer than 2014's Dragon Age: Inquisition. It's another indication that this will be more biffy action game than thinky party-based RPG.
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You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

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What is happening?

:shredder:
People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

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How is this white? He looks like an arab to me
AFAIK he´s supposed to be form Antiva. ANd Antinva is based on Spain as Orlais is based on France.

Most Spaniards have Arabic and Persian roots due to Al-Andalus colony. But they consider themselves as white.
 

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On a more general note, there are also other devs that have occasionally talked about how most players don't go for evil playthroughs hence in turn fewer resources being allocated for evil content. Which is a travesty imho, but yeah.
The issue with an evil playthrough is the belief that players "miss out" on content: being evil means you sacrifice stuff like a potential companion, an item, quests, etc, because you did something that feels like a "bad thing". It's both related to game design and also in the case of rpgs with the satanic panic movement caused by conservatives: designers have more or less forced themselves into designing stuff for the "hero".
Bishop and One-of-Many in NWN, Viconia, Edwin, Korgan, Sarevok in BG2, Minthara in BG3, Geoffrey from Arcanum. It is just a matter developers' skill.
 

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Dragon Age: The Veilguard strips your RPG party down to two companions, but they'll be "deeper" with a lot more banter
"Two's company, three's a crowd," the saying goes, unless the first two are warriors and the third one is a priest, in which case the superior proverb is surely "three's a moderately balanced squad, two's a massive liability"? Here to put such kitchen wisdom to the test is BioWare's Dragon Age: The Veilguard, which "only" allows you to bring two companions into the fray, one fewer than 2014's Dragon Age: Inquisition. It's another indication that this will be more biffy action game than thinky party-based RPG.
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Nothing says "deeper and the most banter ever" than a picture where the companions look as if they've been forced to work together and they despise each other. It conveys that omnipresent silent fear and passive aggression from so many leftist gatherings.

It could be a working premise if the companions were diverse, for real like in Origins. Now they only look different, but beneath their various levels of melanin beats a rebellious heart, urging them to root out oppression where ever it may be found.
 
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Camel

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Nothing says "deeper and the most banter ever" than a picture where the companions look as if they've only been forced to work together. It conveys that omnipresent silent fear and passive aggression from so many leftist gatherings.
The companions sure look diverse and there is only one white guy.
 

9ted6

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Dragon Age then: Embark on a classic journey to save the world from evil.

Dragon Age now:

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Apparently she's one of the writers that BioWare fired last year.

There was supposed to be some sort of boycott over the firings but EA shills said it wasn't very "fanlike" and the fandom agreed to give the friendly megacorp more money.

It's facepalms all the way down.

:deathclaw:
I hate twitter brainrot speak so much.
 

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You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

:shredder:
People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

lucanis.jpg


How is this white? He looks like an arab to me
AFAIK he´s supposed to be form Antiva. ANd Antinva is based on Spain as Orlais is based on France.

Most Spaniards have Arabic and Persian roots due to Al-Andalus colony. But they consider themselves as white.
Mostly Moors. And they consider themselves Spaniards (or rather Basques, Galicians, Catalans and Andalusians) not "whites".
 
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You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

:shredder:

Isn't it ironic that the most desirable person is the white and old John Waters, and not the young and diverse members of the team, including the trans Qunari?
Gaider pushing back timidly against the monster he helped create:


Gaider is like when Kant criticized Fichte, but even less self-consciously and complimentarily without a sense of personal responsibility.

Hasn't Gaider gone on record before as regretting the BG2 romances or have I imagined it?

Interesting to see him stick his head above the parapet nonetheless. Opprobrium incoming.

As an aside it must be maddening to have to state your clear dislike for something in such couched terms. We are very fortunate here in some ways.


It is not by accident that I used the comparison with Kant and Fichte.

Kant believed that he had overturned the old metaphysics, including the materialist one, by finding a balance between the ideological nature of knowledge and life practice. However, Fichte and colleagues focused on what ideas govern human life, which for Kant was a distortion of his own theory.

Gaider was generally the scriptwriter of the company that was the first to develop a plot over gameplay mechanisms (at least in the West). He wrote a large part of the world of Origins. Romances enriched all this, but they were not the center of the production process. Besides, he didn't write characters like THAT. He must see the new Drago Age as a distortion of his own concepts.

How should we evaluate this? Well, for Russell and the Vienna Circle, Kant is responsible for creating idealism with all its retardness. For orthodox Kantians, it was possible to continue the master's thoughts without distortions.

It's the same with Gaider and his legacy.

Fair enough. As I thought I got mixed up about that RPS interview with Gaider last year. He started out hating the idea of romances then grew to enjoy them over time is that article's framing but I'd be interested to see an unedited transcript of their conversation. The assertions the article makes seem a little orthogonal to what Gaider actually says at times.
 

Space Satan

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Gaider always was a big bald baby, completely and utterly unable to handle even the slightest criticisms to his work. It was a great joy of old to make him mad at BSN and throw him to a banning spree. Thing got much muchfunnier after DA2 release.
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Ryzer

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Gaider always was a big bald baby, completely and utterly unable to handle even the slightest criticisms to his work. It was a great joy of old to make him mad at BSN and throw him to a banning spree. Thing got much muchfunnier after DA2 release.
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From "Legendary Bioware writer" to literally who?
 

vota DC

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You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

:shredder:
People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

lucanis.jpg


How is this white? He looks like an arab to me

He looks more spanish/italian than arab(don't fucking tell me there's no difference)

His surname is also Dellamorte apparently (which is italian sounding, although in italian it would be Della Morte)
He Is the tanned cousin of Dylan Dog.


BTW the Veilguard Is the spider of Gal's Panic.
 

Baron Tahn

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'Deeper with banter' they say and yet less party members to deliver it. Yet another seemingly mixed message from this game. Unless you go out of your way to travel with the companions you hate, nearly everyone will miss 5/7s of that depth. Costly, too, all that V/O, a huge waste of effort and energy. This game ain't looking hot.
 

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Gaider always was a big bald baby, completely and utterly unable to handle even the slightest criticisms to his work. It was a great joy of old to make him mad at BSN and throw him to a banning spree. Thing got much muchfunnier after DA2 release.
Hb7e7W2.jpeg


After DA2 came out, Gaider wrote on his twitter during the Thankgiving period something to the effect:

"I ate so much, my stomach almost burst/is ready to explode"

So I responded to him:

"Considering you wrote Fenris, please eat some more"

He, at first, liked my tweet. But later realized what I meant, and blocked me.

Still one of my proudest moments interacting with a Bioware dev :P
 

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Grab the Codex by the pussy Strap Yourselves In Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
You know, I was thinking about how Bioware's never done a "Daddy" character yet for a romance. About time, I say. Even better than he's skinny and looks like he'd be a slutty bottom in bed.
 

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Grab the Codex by the pussy Strap Yourselves In Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Dragon Age: The Veilguard strips your RPG party down to two companions, but they'll be "deeper" with a lot more banter
"Two's company, three's a crowd," the saying goes, unless the first two are warriors and the third one is a priest, in which case the superior proverb is surely "three's a moderately balanced squad, two's a massive liability"? Here to put such kitchen wisdom to the test is BioWare's Dragon Age: The Veilguard, which "only" allows you to bring two companions into the fray, one fewer than 2014's Dragon Age: Inquisition. It's another indication that this will be more biffy action game than thinky party-based RPG.
V7yLxkn.png
Fine with me to be honest, the two hot white guys are all I need.
 

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Dragon Age: The Veilguard strips your RPG party down to two companions, but they'll be "deeper" with a lot more banter
"Two's company, three's a crowd," the saying goes, unless the first two are warriors and the third one is a priest, in which case the superior proverb is surely "three's a moderately balanced squad, two's a massive liability"? Here to put such kitchen wisdom to the test is BioWare's Dragon Age: The Veilguard, which "only" allows you to bring two companions into the fray, one fewer than 2014's Dragon Age: Inquisition. It's another indication that this will be more biffy action game than thinky party-based RPG.
V7yLxkn.png
Fine with me to be honest, the two hot white guys are all I need.
What happens when top guy like you gets assraped by another two top gays ? (Who are more masculine etc). Would you become bottom?
 

Comrade Goby

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a) being a woman b) being veteran worker c) she created Varric
And woke too. Hmm.. there is almost this idea that bugging me that Corporation is only pandering to the Left for their money, not actually caring for them or controlled by them. Ah, who am I kidding, it must be them BlackCock, I mean Black Rock, DEI, ESG, DBD, DBZ from god damn NATO European Latinx troon joos who would've done this.

And my favorite propagand- Content Creator also affirm my believe so it must be true.

You're right
Which is why it's funny to me that many in this thread and others seem to think that "Nu-BioWare" =/= "Old BioWare".

I urge people to play whatever BioWare game they think is "Good", not just consooming out of context screenshots. They didn't change. You did.

There is a clear difference between ME1 and ME2
 

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