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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

Paul_cz

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It is kinda funny to look back and remember all the controversies around DA2, ME3 ending, DA:I, Anthem, ME Andromeda...how gaming public lived them at a time, and yet how quaint they look compared to this latest shitshow.
 

Tytus

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Ladies and gentlemen.

The mindset of the target audience Bioware has chosen.

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DESPAIR!
 

Camel

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Skillup did a masterful job of eviscerating the game just sticking to the bare facts that most people are going to care about. His points get taken seriously because he hit on things that, assuming they're true, are far more dire for the gaming audience and, if they're amplified, will kill the hype for the game in its crib (same for the PC Gamer non-review, a really brutal takedown that just focused on what it lacks as a game).

The point about enemies having bloated health bars that require you to fire off the same few abilities ad nauseum. That just doesn't sound fun to people - and if that's what they hear a lot of complaints over, they'll hesitate (I'm actually curious if "drop it to easy!" becomes the new "leave the Hinterlands!" or if Bioware rushes out a patch to address an issue only Skillup seems to have noticed).

Then there's the crowd that likes to role play. If it turns out that you're railroaded into being a good guy, and your role playing options are minimal, that your companion interactions are similarly guardrailed, and everyone hears about it, well, that's another crowd turned off.

The art style is proving to be another turnoff to a large group of people who aren't on board with its cartoony vibe. Apparently even the dead bodies have perfect skin. The cartoon vibe and the cartoon difficulty and the cartooning of the world isn't shaping up for a good look.

We're reading tea leaves a bit now, but it seems to me that the real Sword of Damocles hanging over this title is if that it's fundamentally shallow. It's long, sure, but the impression I'm getting is that it's the edges-sanded-off, kiddie-friendly, YA edition of Dragon Age. There was a line in the PC Gamer article that jumped out at me, about how the entire conflict between mages and templars - one of the few things that was ever interesting in the series - has been sanded away.

My fundamental point is that I deeply want this game to fail, and pinning your main criticism on "woke" (which of course it is, duh) isn't converting anyone that isn't already on the team. But if I wanted to drive a stake through its heart, which I badly, badly want to do, I'd ensure it got a reputation as being shallow, juvenile, and most importantly, boring.

People like Dragon Age. People aren't going to like "your tween brother's Dragon Age."

You want to infuriate Biodrones? Yeah, so do I. Call them woke, call them cucks, call them fags - they don't care. But if, say, "I liked Dragon Age back when it was an RPG" starts making the rounds, that will activate their rage centers because it cuts to the heart of what's really wrong here.

Same reason Saint's Row reboot failed. It got a reputation for cringe dialog, boring art and mission design, and once that stuck there was no way it could recover. It was clearly trying to pander to a younger audience, which is exactly the sense I get from Veilguard, and ultimately the game sank and dragged the whole studio down with it.

Would that history would repeat itself.
I'll call them groomers who promote a shit game with castrated RPG elements and godawful writing. BioWare dropped mature theme and some edginess from the first two games and went with bland and inoffensive themes unless they portray faggotry. They also promote degenerate troon propaganda. Whether you like it or not Veilguard is already one of the many culture war battles, the left/libs defend it, the right trash it.
 

Hedasd

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Drown in cringe, my brothers in Christ! With bonus crying at the end:


It’s no wonder BioWare is screwed if this woman is what the community listens to


She is, along with another woman called Ladyinsanity(who also cries while reviewing), are the only big Dragon Age youtubers and these are the kind of people that stayed with the series after 2017 other than trannies. Bioware had these kinds of people in mind during the development of the game. They dont care about gameplay or a story written by people with higher than room temperature IQ, they care about romance dialogues that constantly pampers the players and a story that only Emil Pagliarulo would find good.


Seems like they tried to add elements of Mass Effect 2 and 3 into the game but everything feels forced and inorganic due to the sheer incompetence of writers.
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Erik Kain fucking disappointed me.
I swear this dude is profoundly schizophrenic. Basically Jekyll and Hide have nothing on him.

In most vidyas on his channel he sounds like any other anti-woke Youtuber, like a more boring and less intelligent Critical Drinker. He even rants against feminization of popculture, straight up.

But then he loves Troonguard? Is he AI or what?
 

d1r

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Erik Kain fucking disappointed me.
I swear this dude is profoundly schizophrenic. Basically Jekyll and Hide have nothing on him.

In most vidyas on his channel he sounds like any other anti-woke Youtuber, like a more boring and less intelligent Critical Drinker. He even rants against feminization of popculture, straight up.

But then he loves Troonguard? Is he AI or what?
He calls himself "Wokebeard" on his twitter page. So....
 

kapisi

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All the positive reviews I've read are just word salads of praise. "Combat is fun, you can attack and dodge attacks" "the companions are cool", "I liked this and that"

Skillup deals with AAA games mostly, I never play any of the games he talks about. But damn, his reviews are works of art compared to all this. I'm genuinely glad that his veilguard piece has more views than all the others combined.
 

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