Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Abu Antar]

As long as the girl has bigger breasts than me, we're good.

 

[whydoibother]

They are not lying they just alter the truth

Its not altered truth, its just omitted context. Like in that Asmongold thumbnail posted a couple of pages back, which says 20k players launch. Its not a lie that at one point it had 20k. It reached multiple times that much, but its not a lie that it was at 20k for a time. So technically he isn't faking the data, and technically can't be called a liar.

 

[Camel]

 

[ColonelMace]

As foreseen, Dragon Age is a ghost IP. Its value completely depleted overtime (albeit it took a first deadly blow as soon as DA2 released anyway).
The only reason IP owners cling to these dead brands is due to nobody at EA being ready to take the responsibility and explain that something supposedly worth much is actually worth nothing. Because those sorts of assets are only supposed to gain value over time, the only explanation for a loss thereof is someone fucking up to a critical extent. The emperor has no clothes.

Brand power matters is the kind of rationale behind having JVC taking the lead on designing C&C Generals 2 back in the early 2010s. It is not entirely wrong, they probably could have sold many more copies of it than what's to be reasonably expected, but at some point, whether you want it or not, you gotta cut the shit and send everybody home. It is dead, Jim.
BG3, Elden Ring, CP2077 to a lesser extent : the market is ripe for selling action-rpgs if not actual crpgs. They don't even have the dead genre excuse that they could have invoked for shutting down C&C.
They shall stick to releasing remasters now, because that's really all the bread they'll make out of BioWare's invaluable IPs. Not that a Dragon Age collection would sell, something they seem well aware of since they didn't even try to push the idea to the public.

On another note, I can't be the only one pondering how wild the evolution of Bioware fanservice has been since Mass Effect (and to a greater extent since Baldur's Gate 2). At the time of DA2 and ME2&3, I personally felt disgusted by the dialing up of companions sex appeal. That pirate chick in DA2, Miranda from ME2, that lass from ME1 turned into a sex doll in ME3... heck they even sexified the ship's AI. Ten years later, after a complete 180, they're pouring out the ugliest freaks on a market who's already quite dotted in such. What an insane rollercoaster...

 

[AwesomeButton]

This is very funny, because Inquisition wasn't on steam until years after release, just to remind ppl here.

I've also seen people post this is Bioware's biggest launch on Steam ever. Objectively true, but of course decieving, as this is their first direct-to-Steam launch ever. All their other games came after years of exclusivity elsewhere.
I expect this line will be used a lot by people who want to praise the game, because it is technically true and they aren't technically lying. We could see it in an investor call too.

They are not lying they just altering the truth

Who knows some journo might get a lucky promotion to a WaPo hack, with all the resignations these days

 

[d1r]

Veilguard had peak 70k concurrent players. I say it reaches around 100k.

Now let's compare it to other RPGs released in recent years:
Baldur's Gate 3 https://steamdb.info/app/1086940/charts/#max 875k
Elden Ring: https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/charts/#max 953k
Starfield: https://steamdb.info/app/1716740/charts/#max 330k

Doesn't look good for Bioware's newest sweet baby.

Well, we don't know the console numbers plus sales on their fanboy store + EA pass numbers. But yeah, it's pretty weak for such a mainstream game.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Veilguard had peak 70k concurrent players. I say it reaches around 100k.

Now let's compare it to other RPGs released in recent years:
Baldur's Gate 3 https://steamdb.info/app/1086940/charts/#max 875k
Elden Ring: https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/charts/#max 953k
Starfield: https://steamdb.info/app/1716740/charts/#max 330k

Doesn't look good for Bioware's newest sweet baby.

Well, we don't know the console numbers plus sales on their fanboy store + EA pass numbers. But yeah, it's pretty weak for such a mainstream game.

Starfield was available on GamePass since day 1. All the games mentioned got console releases (though for BG3 it was somewhat delayed, compared to PC release).

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

The writing is so fucking awful, my god.

 

[tommy heavenly6]

As foreseen, Dragon Age is a ghost IP. Its value completely depleted overtime (albeit it took a first deadly blow as soon as DA2 released anyway).
The only reason IP owners cling to these dead brands is due to nobody at EA being ready to take the responsibility and explain that something supposedly worth much is actually worth nothing. Because those sorts of assets are only supposed to gain value over time, the only explanation for a loss thereof is someone fucking up to a critical extent.

The IP could've easily been revived with a game that ticked all the right boxes for the general public like BG3 did; the reason it's a dead IP now is because they just kept releasing slop and turning it into political propaganda. Many series can survive one or two bad entries, but that depends on devs making a good new installment before the IP holders tell them to pack their bags. This was the opportunity to do a good job and revive the Dragon Age IP but they missed the mark badly, again, and there won't be a new one.

 

[CyberWhale]

They should have done a spiritual successor (new flagship IP) to DA: Origins with this level of presentation (minus the goofy faces) and without the endless woke pandering. Having fags (Zevran), strong female characters (Morrigan) and minority groups repressed (elves) is not an issue if done properly (both Origins and The Witcher do it decently, for example).

Who am I kidding, the current year (((BioWare))) wouldn't be able to pull it off even if the managers greenlight the project.
Should have just done a remake without tinkering with the story and dialogs, probably would have more players than this turd.

 

[Lord_Potato]

That's what we call Mr. Floppy around these parts

 

[volklore]

They should have done a spiritual successor (new flagship IP) to DA: Origins with this level of presentation (minus the goofy faces) and without the endless woke pandering. Having fags (Zevran), strong female characters (Morrigan) and minority groups repressed (elves) is not an issue if done properly (both Origins and The Witcher do it decently, for example).

Who am I kidding, the current year (((BioWare))) wouldn't be able to pull it off even if the managers greenlight the project.
Should have just done a remake without tinkering with the story and dialogs, probably would have more players than this turd.

Working on this, you probably couldn't criticize or question the whole barve/pronoun garbage in a meeting without having to deal with HR.
I don't think it's possible for big corpos to produce anything of value anymore. I'd imagine anybody with an ounce of talent and a tiny bit of care about their craft is smart enough to not want to work there.

 

[Fargus]

EA did a Dead Space remake and it didn't sell 10 million copies like they hoped so they shelved the franchise once again . It was full of pandering too but not to an extent of this digital gender neutral toilet of a game.

 

[Spectral Pontifex]

That's what we call Mr. Floppy around these parts

But the prophecy said Muricans coming home from work would defeat the chuds...

 

[DannyRope]

They should have done a spiritual successor (new flagship IP) to DA: Origins with this level of presentation (minus the goofy faces) and without the endless woke pandering. Having fags (Zevran), strong female characters (Morrigan) and minority groups repressed (elves) is not an issue if done properly (both Origins and The Witcher do it decently, for example).

Who am I kidding, the current year (((BioWare))) wouldn't be able to pull it off even if the managers greenlight the project.
Should have just done a remake without tinkering with the story and dialogs, probably would have more players than this turd.

The writing is so safe and sanitized that ironically using the repression of minorities as one of the game's themes would be forbidden, lest your risk triggering someone. I guess that's why you only could be a City Elf in Origins and never again. The Dalish are the focus now. Strictly speaking, Inquisition had a City Elf companion in Sera but that hardly counts since she's fully assimilated and hates being an elf and would rather be considered human.

 

[Orud]

Veilguard had peak 70k concurrent players. I say it reaches around 100k.

Now let's compare it to other RPGs released in recent years:
Baldur's Gate 3 https://steamdb.info/app/1086940/charts/#max 875k
Elden Ring: https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/charts/#max 953k
Starfield: https://steamdb.info/app/1716740/charts/#max 330k

Doesn't look good for Bioware's newest sweet baby.

Wrath of the Righteous even peaked @ 46K. Try comparing the budget between the 2 games.

Either word of mouth is really good the next few weeks, or the console versions outsells the PC several times, or this will be a shitshow.

 

[Child of Malkav]

But the prophecy said Muricans coming home from work would defeat the chuds...

Yeah but I think the Americans went and said:

 

[Black]

This is what rpgs always wanted to be about.

 

[Goldschmidt]

Who is the target audience for those 'surgery scars' anyway? It's from a cosmetic operation. Surely actual transgender people don't want them.

Might as well have black playing characters start with less money and worse equipment and be denied access to certain game areas.

What good are top surgery scars if you can't create a pornstar with huge fake tits.

 

[Odoryuk]

This is what rpgs always wanted to be about.

Couldn't he just press 4. (Back)??? Is he stupid?

 

[Asymptotics]

This is what rpgs always wanted to be about.

Couldn't he just press 4. (Back)??? Is he stupid?

Look at his face. Does that retard look like he can read?

 

[d1r]

This is what rpgs always wanted to be about.

Couldn't he just press 4. (Back)??? Is he stupid?

Yupp, that's his shtick. I pity the people who actually find this retard funny.

 

[Odoryuk]

This is what rpgs always wanted to be about.

Couldn't he just press 4. (Back)??? Is he stupid?

Look at his face. Does that retard look like he can read?

Fair enough.

 

[Lacrymas]

They could've saved this tranny simulator if they had good combat and buildcraft. Alas.

 

[Padzi]

This is what rpgs always wanted to be about.

Couldn't he just press 4. (Back)??? Is he stupid?

Look at his face. Does that retard look like he can read?

How dare you insult cleanest Nurgle worshipper?