Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Cohesion]

Looks like it won't beat DOS2 after all. Swen wins.

Swen wins by default by not being a tranny.

Lol swen is 100% onboard with the tranny/globohomo agenda. Same as ubi, ea, capcom, microsoft, sony and GTA dudes.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Which game do you think it has more soul? This one or Skyrim

 

[kapisi]

 

[MerchantKing]

[DAV ACT 1 SPOILERS] I'm romancing Lucanis and I think I'm dying...​

What the fuck happened?
Context: about ten hours in there is a lovely coffee scene between Rook and Lucanis. Absolutely fantastic in every way. It's cute, romantic, very well written and has some subtle flirtatious options. THIS, was exactly what I was looking for in a romance with him.
This. Was. The vibe.
Fast-forward another twenty hours of gameplay, I just completed the Bloodbath quest, and there's nothing. There has been nothing. No cute interactions or dialogue from him, no flirting, nothing! In the last twenty hours, I have flirted with Lucanis every chance that I could, and the man straight up isn't responding.
This isn't slow-burn, it's no-burn.
And to be fair, I get the man has a lot going on. A lot of things that need to be dealt with. However, him not responding to the three or four flirting interactions in between the coffee date and now make no sense. Even turning me down and saying he has other priorities right now, would be better than the nothing I'm getting.
Also, I know the devs said there was variety in the relationships and some would be steamier than others. To be clear, I don't care if this isn't, "one of the steamier relationships." I don't need steam, I need reciprocation on even the barest level and there is none.
Anyone else feeling frustrated here? I know I came into this with certain expectations, but come on y'all...
Tl;Dr My feelings are hurt cause I'm thirty hours into this game, and the romance with Lucanis is basically dead and non-reciprocul. What are your thoughts?

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Dude I had to stop bringing Neve along with Lucanis. They kept so obviously flirting and it was pissing me off lol

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I loved that market date + coffee scene.

And then I got Davrin's scene where Assan and Manfred are... Idk, arguing over something? And that was just so funny that I think I'm going to go after Davrin instead.

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My main playthrough is a dwarf who I plan to romance Emmrich with, but my subsequent playthrough was going to be a beefy warrior himbo human paired up with the subtle Lucanis. But I’ve seen so many negatives about his romance that I might go with Davrin instead.

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Maybe they'll address it in a future patch.

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Isn't Darvin that guy written by a Patreon Donor in Kingmaker?

 

[Tyranicon]

It couldn't crack 90k and peaked at 89,418 concurrent players!

Let's see how my predictions went:

This thing is gonna get mixed reviews at launch, all the usual suspects are going to cry about "review bombing," and the steam forums will be a warzone.

Oh, and IGN will give it a 9/10.

Pretty spot on except Steam reviews are mostly positive. It's only 6% away, so maybe give it a week, but then again, Andromeda also has mostly positive, so whatever. The BioLove is strong with the fandom.

Let's see some possible futures for this game:

1. Massive financial success. Swats BG3 aside like a gnat. Puts BioWare back at the top of the industry. All the devs become instant celebrities and guarantees the continued existence of the studio. Likelihood: lol.

2. Moderate financial success. The profits from this game outweigh the expenses. Big daddy EA is satisfied and BioWare avoids the chopping block once again. Likelihood: if they shill it enough, it's likely.

3. It's a wash. The game makes roughly about as much money as it took to produce. EA is unhappy. BioWare's future is uncertain. Likelihood: this is where I'd put my money.

4. Financial failure. The game fails to make back its budget and expenses. Excuses and blame is thrown around for months while YouTubers are ecstatic. Steam forums melt down into nonstop trolling. BioWare's future looks bleak. Likelihood: depends how good the game is to a normie audience.

5. Crashes the video game industry. The content of the game is so unpalatable to the mainstream audience that it actually causes a tipping point. Tired of games like Concord and the devs that make them, the gaming audience reject these games wholesale. The next few months consist of loud demands for change. Sales across the board reach new lows. Journos call it the Gaming Crash of 2025. Likelihood: unlikely but hilarious.

Looks like it's 4. Financial Failure right now. I was actually expecting too much.

 

[jaekl]

I don't....

What the......

I'm okay with youtubers getting the death penalty on trumped up charges tbh but I'd just prefer if the corpos didn't benefit from it. How about youtubers are held accountable for all the kids with personality disorders after their parents leave them alone with a tablet for 18 years straight? Sentence: the classic breaking on the wheel.

 

[Camel]

Leftists know Veilguard is a flop as you can see when they have an honest discussion amongst themselves on Retardera.

 

[Ryzer]

Looks like it won't beat DOS2 after all. Swen wins.

Swen wins by default by not being a tranny.

Lol swen is 100% onboard with the tranny/globohomo agenda. Same as ubi, ea, capcom, microsoft, sony and GTA dudes.

It's recent, I don't remember any agenda in Divinity 2, Divinity Original Sin nor Divine Divinity.

 

[Volourn]

The review ratings dont count old bio fans like me. I haven't officially rated it because I did not buy or play this shit game. If I did it be -100/10.

 

[Skinwalker]

It couldn't crack 90k and peaked at 89,418 concurrent players!

Are we absolutely certain it's not going to skyrocket during the weekdays?

 

[Cohesion]

That's a fair point. But the atmosphere the sprites and music produce is actually pretty great, if you want to.

I love Codex grognard shit, love old-school turn-based RPGs, don't give a shit about muh graphix.

But I could NOT for the life of me get into Underrail. IIRC the turn-based combat with a single character felt p. lame and pointless, exploration or story didn't grab me at all and the whole thing felt like catnip for autistic character builders and minmaxers. Which is legit ofc but not my thing.

I feel you bro. I'd rather replay Might & Magic 3-7 than Underrail. It's a good game, just not for me.

 

[Inec0rn]

That there is a DA4 shows retard gamer consumer, this series should have been scrapped when DA2 launched. Probably 20% of the sales here are haters making excuses to play the game because they are addicted to AAA slop and hype.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

It couldn't crack 90k and peaked at 89,418 concurrent players!

Are we absolutely certain it's not going to skyrocket during the weekdays?

In many places of the world this was a three day weekend, due to friday being a holiday for many countries (basically, plenty of catholic ones). So if DAV had any chance of hitting peaks, it was during these days. We'l have to see if the game gets down to 50k before next sunday.

 

[Skinwalker]

In many places of the world this was a three day weekend, due to friday being a holiday for many countries (basically, plenty of catholic ones). So if DAV had any chance of hitting peaks, it was during these days. We'l have to see if the game gets down to 50k before next sunday.

Catholics don't play transsexual demon "games". Right?




Right??

 

[shimadamada]

Came across this YT vid by a spergy female (and fairly based) researcher, Aydin Paladin:



The vid's long and she goes into an extremely autistic level of detail, but the gist of it is that the claims of the benefits of representayshun in videogames just aren't borne out by the research, and in fact if anything the opposite holds (it's psychologically more "healing" to play idealized characters, which is what both males and females do naturally, which ties in with another bit of research that's been doing the rounds recently re. females preferring idealized characters).

So yeah it's bollocks, and as always the issue is never the issue, it's just for the rubes and useful idiot/true believer rank-and-file.

Basically the manufacture of Product is no longer, properly speaking, a capitalist enterprise focused on profit, but a social engineering drive by the new ruling class, the managerial class.

Weak men (think of Kier Starmer), spiteful mutants, troon nerds, etc. I would say, kind of a slight return of the Brahmin/priestly class - almost, one might say, a kind of Adeptus Mechanicus class (if one thinks of the programmer/tech giant aspect of it) - whereas we had the merchant class (capitalists proper) for a few hundred years befor that, and the warrior class (kingship/aristocracy) for a few hundreds of years before that. (As an aside, while of course as a Nazi I would say that the JQ is what's a the root of it all, even if one doesn't want to get into the JQ aspect of it, one can discuss the current societal situation on this more neutral ground of Frank Burnham's idea of a new mangerial elite as the new ruling class, and still capture some important aspects of all this stuff in discussion.)

So again, one is led to wonder, is there a breaking point somewhere, where the outgoing capitalistic prerogatives (e.g. profit) still have some clout over the incoming managerial prerogatives (social engineering)? Or are the purveyors of woke Product just going to be bailed out for as long a it takes to make woke Product the only thing available?

It's being pushed and paid for as social engineering - as Larry Fink said in 2017, the behaviours they want "have to be forced" - and they're willing to spend untold resources on forcing them. But again, one wonders if there is a limit somewhere, especially if it's seen that the social engineering isn't "sticking" and they'd be throwing good money after bad.

This is mostly cope. If the managerial elite was the culprit, we'd see cultural deterioration occur sooner than it has. You cite Burnham, so should know this. The reason for the pursuit of representation is purely economical, women have always been the best target audience for any sort of marketing. They are the ultimate consoomers. The commercialization of industry brought in vast amounts of new audiences, women among them. Since their economic standing has improved substantially, and because they make for such valuable cash cows they are heavily targeted. Women also support the status quo much more than men(whatever it is), they are less impulsive and more confined in their regard for whatever is the ruling ideology. The individual game or studio might fall for the paradigm of "go woke go broke", but the ideology is self-sustaining. Time is on the side of Larry Fink and his ilk, all that is required is patience and effort. "Social engineering" is pursued because it is the best way to increase profits in the long term.

As Marx puts it:

the bourgeoisie has at last, sincethe establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conqueredfor itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway.The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the commonaffairs of the whole bourgeoisie.

and

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an endto all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunderthe motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and hasleft remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, thancallous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasiesof religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism,in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worthinto exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible charteredfreedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade.

most importantly:

The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionisingthe instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production,and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modesof production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first conditionof existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionisingof production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlastinguncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlierones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient andvenerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed onesbecome antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts intoair, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to facewith sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.
[...]The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chasesthe bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere,settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere.
[...]The intellectual creations of individual nations become commonproperty. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more andmore impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures,there arises a world literature.

If you're programmed to tune out when communism is mentioned, then just read Carl Schmitt or Strauss. The death of the west will have come because of liberalism, and liberalism is fundamentally tied to capitalism.

Patrick Deneen has also written about it in recent years.

 

[Ryzer]

That's a fair point. But the atmosphere the sprites and music produce is actually pretty great, if you want to.

I love Codex grognard shit, love old-school turn-based RPGs, don't give a shit about muh graphix.

But I could NOT for the life of me get into Underrail. IIRC the turn-based combat with a single character felt p. lame and pointless, exploration or story didn't grab me at all and the whole thing felt like catnip for autistic character builders and minmaxers. Which is legit ofc but not my thing.

It's a good game, just not for me.

That's like a pussyfied answer to tell a game is shit without pissing off the Underrail sect, come on say it out loud, don't be pussy.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Bioware should have adopted Obsidian's playbook and declared themselves a small indie studio working on a midsized budget, out of their love for RPGs.

At least that's what these release numbers are painting them as

Instead of going trans-balls-to-the-wall "you'll transition and you'll like it" on unsuspecting gamers, Obsidian know how to be woke and covert about it.

 

[Skinwalker]

Bioware should have adopted Obsidian's playbook and declared themselves a small indie studio working on a midsized budget, out of their love for RPGs.

At least that's what these release numbers are painting them as

Mean. Unfair.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

In many places of the world this was a three day weekend, due to friday being a holiday for many countries (basically, plenty of catholic ones). So if DAV had any chance of hitting peaks, it was during these days. We'l have to see if the game gets down to 50k before next sunday.

Catholics don't play transsexual demon "games". Right?




Right??

Catholics live their lives knowing that it's God's role to judge our actions, unlike heretic protestants who are very judgmental and unaware they are living in glass houses.

 

[Skinwalker]

In many places of the world this was a three day weekend, due to friday being a holiday for many countries (basically, plenty of catholic ones). So if DAV had any chance of hitting peaks, it was during these days. We'l have to see if the game gets down to 50k before next sunday.

Catholics don't play transsexual demon "games". Right?




Right??

Catholics live their lives knowing that it's God's role to judge our actions, unlike heretic protestants who are very judgmental and unaware they are living in glass houses.

Uh, sir, I am Orthodox. You're both heretics.

 

[Semiurge]

[DAV ACT 1 SPOILERS] I'm romancing Lucanis and I think I'm dying...​

What the fuck happened?
Context: about ten hours in there is a lovely coffee scene between Rook and Lucanis. Absolutely fantastic in every way. It's cute, romantic, very well written and has some subtle flirtatious options. THIS, was exactly what I was looking for in a romance with him.
This. Was. The vibe.
Fast-forward another twenty hours of gameplay, I just completed the Bloodbath quest, and there's nothing. There has been nothing. No cute interactions or dialogue from him, no flirting, nothing! In the last twenty hours, I have flirted with Lucanis every chance that I could, and the man straight up isn't responding.
This isn't slow-burn, it's no-burn.
And to be fair, I get the man has a lot going on. A lot of things that need to be dealt with. However, him not responding to the three or four flirting interactions in between the coffee date and now make no sense. Even turning me down and saying he has other priorities right now, would be better than the nothing I'm getting.
Also, I know the devs said there was variety in the relationships and some would be steamier than others. To be clear, I don't care if this isn't, "one of the steamier relationships." I don't need steam, I need reciprocation on even the barest level and there is none.
Anyone else feeling frustrated here? I know I came into this with certain expectations, but come on y'all...
Tl;Dr My feelings are hurt cause I'm thirty hours into this game, and the romance with Lucanis is basically dead and non-reciprocul. What are your thoughts?

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Dude I had to stop bringing Neve along with Lucanis. They kept so obviously flirting and it was pissing me off lol

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I loved that market date + coffee scene.

And then I got Davrin's scene where Assan and Manfred are... Idk, arguing over something? And that was just so funny that I think I'm going to go after Davrin instead.

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My main playthrough is a dwarf who I plan to romance Emmrich with, but my subsequent playthrough was going to be a beefy warrior himbo human paired up with the subtle Lucanis. But I’ve seen so many negatives about his romance that I might go with Davrin instead.

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Maybe they'll address it in a future patch.

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Not a single mention of the fact that he's on his way to becoming an abomination, and that killing his demon might be a prerequisite for romance. Or maybe he's a coffee-man.

One of them also mentioned how he flirts with Neve, so maybe they've ignored the fact that the party members will romance each other unless you claim them first. There's apparently a point where your relationship becomes "exclusive". It doesn't seem random at all and the devs in fact stated that Harding will always romance Taash if you remain neutral to both. It must be the same for Lucanis and Neve. Who knows about the other three.

DA:O got the attention of the modern audience.

 

[gurugeorge]

I agree re. liberalism and the death of the West etc., but while I used to think it was fundamentally capitalism, I don't think that any more. Precisely because profit no longer seems to matter when compared with pumping a social engineering message. That's more like a "priestly" schtick, i.e, a new magagerial elite ruling class schtick.

Profit does not matter much when paper cash is inherently worthless. That deception originating from the money masters has worked really well to turn the average joe in the ideal wage slave; to turn them into a cog inside the matrix, so they can live as kings. Making people believe paper and digits are insanely valuable grants the moneymasters power over companies, institutions and governments and that power enables them to shape the truth as they wish and to mold the general population into something they want. It is more about possessing and controlling land, natural resources and debt slaves than it is about having fat bank accounts.

Yeah that's all true to some extent, but bear in mind that having lots of money has never been the only way of controlling stuff and people. Money power is the merchant class way but there have been times when priestly class and the warrior class have been the ruling class.

I think that's what's happening now (over the hundred years mark starting roundabout the beginning of the 20th century). What are the means of production now? Basically it's computers, and will be robotics and AI. And the class that's positioned to control that, and become the ruling class, is the new managerial class, which is a combination of the earlier form of the managerial class that Burnham was pointing to (a modern representative would be that disgusting creature Kier Starmer, or say Macron or Trudeau) PLUS the nerdy class (the tech entrepreneurs etc.).

Again, a sort of Adeptus Mechanicus (they don't really understand how the shit works - in a trope, many of them are mixed meats and Pajeets copying and pasting github code - but they know how to make it do stuff).

And so the nerdy end of the managerial class has all the spiteful mutants, the ma'ams, the abominations and abortions a portion of whom have always infested Our Thing (gaming), but were formerly kept in check by market discipline under the more capitalistic hegemony. But that's fading out, and they're just outright ruling (again, using their command of the means of production to apportion goodies to them and their cronies, etc.). And not just that, but ruling with cruelty and Kafakaesque evil.

 

[Vyvian]

Finally

I don't think that post author should worry about that.
The way this flopped I doubt such a scenario will even be a concern.

 

[Jaesun]

So basically the current development team at Bioware decided to make Trannies Personal Journey, and then decided to shove it in the DA setting, which makes no fucking sense. And then shoves Trannies Personal Journey narrative straight in the to players face and forces them to play it. Do I got the basics down?

 

[Modron]

It's like you've never seen a canadian game before.