Dwarf Fortress now on Steam with a graphical overhaul

[Hace El Oso]

I don't want to give money to this fucker, would I be best to wait a month or so before torrenting or is the Steam version in solid condition as is?

Just make sure you torrent version 50.02 which fixed the menu crashes bug. More time, more fixes, but it’s in good shape.

 

[Space Satan]

I like DF mods

 

[LarryTyphoid]

Normalfags can play the game without reading wiki articles for 2 hours beforehand?

In all seriousness, though, the quality of DF discussion and "community" is going to decline rapidly with this release. I guess that's just the nature of things unfortunately. Dorf's nature as a cool, niche, game has already been tainted by Toady's faggotry for years, since you can't talk about it without someone bringing up trannies. Everything that's cool and "nerdy" always turns into tranny shit eventually (see also Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead and other roguelikes). This is why it's just better to be a jock who plays FIFA and Madden.

 

[Hace El Oso]

This is why it's just better to be a jock who plays FIFA and Madden.

 

[Vic]

Normalfags can play the game without reading wiki articles for 2 hours beforehand?

In all seriousness, though, the quality of DF discussion and "community" is going to decline rapidly with this release. I guess that's just the nature of things unfortunately. Dorf's nature as a cool, niche, game has already been tainted by Toady's faggotry for years, since you can't talk about it without someone bringing up trannies. Everything that's cool and "nerdy" always turns into tranny shit eventually (see also Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead and other roguelikes). This is why it's just better to be a jock who plays FIFA and Madden.

I think I'm out of the loop. What do you mean DF and CDDA are "tranny shit"?

 

[LarryTyphoid]

I think I'm out of the loop. What do you mean DF and CDDA are "tranny shit"?

CDDA changed gender to allow the player to change it at any time. There's also this: https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/51102
The DF tranny connections are clear if you read this thread's last few pages.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

What do you mean DF

DF's dev apparently went to great lengths to implement both gays and trannies into his game.

 

[Vic]

What do you mean DF

DF's dev apparently went to great lengths to implement both gays and trannies into his game.

so you can kill and torture them?

 

[LarryTyphoid]

so you can kill and torture them?

For now, but considering the whole mermaid business, maybe Toady will incorporate the Liberal Crime Squad into DF to put a stop to problematic players.

 

[LarryTyphoid]

Speaking of LCS, I think we can now put away the idea that it was a thoughtful satire of leftist ideology, considering Toady's recent practices.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

For now, but considering the whole mermaid business, maybe Toady will incorporate the Liberal Crime Squad into DF to put a stop to problematic players.

Yeah, I was going to say something similar. I could totally see some kind of world war or holy war scenario to stop Dwarf Hitler from wiping out the troons.

Sadly, as a liberal, it was only a matter of time before Toady's autism was turned against him.

Say goodbye to simulationism, say hello to hours spent protecting imaginary characters from racism or whatever.

 

[thesecret1]

I expect something like a diversity score that you need to keep high or suffer crippling malluses, to motivate you to not just protect troons and fags, but go out of your way to obtain more of them

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I expect something like a diversity score that you need to keep high or suffer crippling malluses, to motivate you to not just protect troons and fags, but go out of your way to obtain more of them

Sort of like an in-game ESG?

Klaus Schwab would be proud. Bonus points for eating zee bugs.

 

[Alex]

I expect something like a diversity score that you need to keep high or suffer crippling malluses, to motivate you to not just protect troons and fags, but go out of your way to obtain more of them

Depending on how that would be done, that could even lead to more realism. I mean, a mod just has to invert some numbers somewhere and done, your "diverse" society actually plays like one...

 

[Joggerino]

Well I've started playing this. Not gonna look up any wikis or guides and just discover stuff for myself.

 

[Fedora Master]

Well I've started playing this. Not gonna look up any wikis or guides and just discover stuff for myself.

That's how you have FUN
Remember to dig deep and greedily

 

[Joggerino]

Yes, I think starting on a map without soil and water might have been a mistake.

 

[Fedora Master]

Yes, I think starting on a map without soil and water might have been a mistake.

There's soil and water in the caverns. Don't worry about it. What's the worst that could be down there?

 

[Seigneur Locklear]

What's the worst that could be down there?

6 million useless Z levels to scroll through as if you're going through a stack of Epstein's flight list guests?

 

[Fedora Master]

What's the worst that could be down there?

6 million useless Z levels to scroll through as if you're going through a stack of Epstein's flight list guests?

Lol if you don't roll all cavern layers into one for exxxtra FUN

 

[Joggerino]

What's the worst that could be down there?

6 million useless Z levels to scroll through as if you're going through a stack of Epstein's flight list guests?

Lol if you don't roll all cavern layers into one for exxxtra FUN

First game everyone died of dehydration. Second game I got two huge cavern layers but I see nothing dangerous in them so far.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Personally I like the new visual bells and whistles and pretty tilesets and might actually play this now as long as I hear they didn't mess too much with what's under the hood of the original game. Will probably wait for an Adventure mode and a few more builds before getting it though.

It doesn't even include adventure mode??



Checked the Steam forum earlier btw. Seems proper combat logs aren't there either. This was probably the key feature for plebbiters to gush over the oh so zany events in their fortresses.

8 page thread on it: https://steamcommunity.com/app/975370/discussions/0/3709307511570233056/?ctp=8

But hey, at least you have trannies, right?

 

[Jack Of Owls]

Personally I like the new visual bells and whistles and pretty tilesets and might actually play this now as long as I hear they didn't mess too much with what's under the hood of the original game. Will probably wait for an Adventure mode and a few more builds before getting it though.

It doesn't even include adventure mode??



Checked the Steam forum earlier btw. Seems proper combat logs aren't there either. This was probably the key feature for plebbiters to gush over the oh so zany events in their fortresses.

8 page thread on it: https://steamcommunity.com/app/975370/discussions/0/3709307511570233056/?ctp=8

But hey, at least you have trannies, right?

I don't even know what "adventure mode" is in this game (perhaps someone can explain it to me), and since I respond to big colorful buzz words and terms like "ADVENTURE MODE!!!" I decided that if I'm going to get this game, it damn well better have it plus no one wants to buy a game that's missing entire features available in all previous builds, even if those features are probably useless or likely will never be used.

 

[Jack Of Owls]

 

[Alienman]

My current impressions of the game after 20 hours - you can read it on my blog here! Or down below if interested (It's mostly about issues I'm having with the game).

Spoiler

Been playing the new Dwarf Fortress version on Steam for about twenty hours now, and I think I got enough time under my belt to give some quick impressions. First off, I want to praise the new UI, in general at least, and the new graphics. It’s way more detailed than any visual pack I have used for the free version of the game. While I didn’t think the keyboard controls were that painful – just a bit archaic, I do appreciate the new mouse controls. It feels a bit more casual, and it requires less from you, which at least lets me focus on something else while playing – like listening to a good audiobook or watching a show on the second monitor.

However, there are some serious issues with the game, which makes me feel it has been dumbed down for a new audience. It’s mostly about hidden stats or detail that for some reason in this version is not easily accessed. Like a big one is announcements and the combat log. They exist, but only when something happens in form of a pop-up icon. So when something important goes down, like a battle, you can click on that icon and get the report. When you exit that report though, the information is gone forever, and there is no way to enter the report system and look at that information at will. It’s mind-boggling because this is one of the most crucial aspects of Dwarf Fortress in my opinion. With that I mean – it’s how you create a story for your dwarves and your fortress. How are you supposed to follow the story of someone, if you can’t see how, when, and why things happened to him or her? You are at the mercy of the incident when it happens – miss it, or ignore it at the time, and it’s gone forever.

Another problem with announcements is that the game does not pause when stuff happens, not even when important things like when battles occur. If you miss the icon, your favorite dwarf might be dead when you notice it on your screen. Another issue with the report system for combat is that the report screen pauses the game, so you can never follow the battles in real-time, which I think is a major missed opportunity. It’s something that should have been fixed for this version. Since now, the report is not a full-screen UI element, which could have been made so you could watch the action happen while you read the detailed description of the battle. It was stuff like this I was expecting to get improved upon if I’m being honest. Yet, nothing was done to change this, and it’s a real shame.

Other problems are that a lot of small detail has been hidden away, stuff that was available before in the free version. Inspecting items, like armor and weapons while being carried around has been removed. You can get the basic information, but you can’t take part in interesting things – how many kills that legendary sword has, and so on. This gets replicated in other parts of the UI too, for example when looking for item detail while trading. There is no icon for inspection at all here, which is another baffling decision. You might want to know what you are trading away!

Now, I’m not going to list every issue I have with the game so far here, I just want to put through that this version is less than the freemium edition at this point. However, there is one more major issue I have to mention, but I’m unsure if this was part of Dwarf Fortress vanilla or something that was enchanted by Dwarf Therapist (a third-party program). And that is how the renaming of your dwarves works now, something I always do, and the issue is that the names do not stick for item descriptions. So if one of the dwarves that you have named makes an impressive statue, the art for the description will revert to the original name of the dwarf. It makes it hard as hell to know who has done what, and in my case, it makes it much harder to connect with your population since there is nothing to differentiate your dwarves from outside ones. Have fun learning all those obscure and weird fantasy names!

I was hoping nothing would get lost in this update, but apparently, I was wrong. I don’t want to put all my money on that it’s being dumbed down deliberately, yet, it sure feels like it. Why would some of these things be changed otherwise? It must have been playtested, right? Any veteran of the game would notice these things already after a few hours! This gets me thinking that stuff was decided to be cut or removed because I can’t believe it was purely missed in the testing. I do hope I get proven wrong, of course, otherwise, I have just wasted thirty euros on a lesser experience.

Right now I can’t recommend Dwarf Fortress. The visuals are much better, which makes it a lot easier on the eyes, but as stated, it’s less of a game. That makes paying for this version a stupid decision at the current time.


Thanks for reading.