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[Bigg Boss]

BTW, there's a way to avoid getting hit by that last cluster of arrows he shoots at you, at least a way i found to be relatively consistent. Doesn't show on my victory recording so here's an example from an earlier attempt:



Nothing fancy, all i'm doing is trying to bait that attack so that some of the arrows get caught by that pile of junk on the ground. Might be a better way but this seemed to work for me most of the times.

Yeah you ride the horse.

 

[Old Hans]

BTW, what's with the boss area. It's huge but there seems to be nothing. I mean i know there's a cave because i found that wierd statue thingy top side but other than some corpses with arrows so far it seems completely empty.

there is a crypt. its where the coast meets the cliff.

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

I missed the ultra greatsword on my first playthrough and I'm fuckin pissed. That means I gotta play through the game two more times to dual weild them. Just let me duplicate the MFer ahhhh! Those were my trademark weapons in Dark Souls 2 an 3.

 

[Lyric Suite]

BTW, there's a way to avoid getting hit by that last cluster of arrows he shoots at you, at least a way i found to be relatively consistent. Doesn't show on my victory recording so here's an example from an earlier attempt:



Nothing fancy, all i'm doing is trying to bait that attack so that some of the arrows get caught by that pile of junk on the ground. Might be a better way but this seemed to work for me most of the times.

Yeah you ride the horse.

You can't avoid getting hit by the front volley. Unless i didn't try hard enough but the spread is so wide no matter where you move it gets you.

I'm not talking about the rain of arrows that's easy to dodge with horse.

 

[Multidirectional]

It's the bleed. He might be particularly weak to it for "lore" reasons i don't know. I was surprised when i saw how big the proc was.

Yeah it was not dual wielding it was the bleed. Changed my ash of war to Bloody Slash and went for bleed infusion, massive damage difference, almost got him on first try just now after the switch. Before I couldn't even get him to half health. And the weapon art seems much better than my previous Sacred Blade too.

 

[Bigg Boss]

BTW, there's a way to avoid getting hit by that last cluster of arrows he shoots at you, at least a way i found to be relatively consistent. Doesn't show on my victory recording so here's an example from an earlier attempt:



Nothing fancy, all i'm doing is trying to bait that attack so that some of the arrows get caught by that pile of junk on the ground. Might be a better way but this seemed to work for me most of the times.

Yeah you ride the horse.

You can't avoid getting hit by the front volley. Unless i didn't try hard enough but the spread is so wide no matter where you move it gets you.

I'm not talking about the rain of arrows that's easy to dodge with horse.

Did you jump? It's been a while just curious.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Hey, the chant in Redmane castle is still going even though the festival is over and all the mobs are there now. Nice, i can Deus Vult while i clear the place.

 

[Lyric Suite]

BTW, there's a way to avoid getting hit by that last cluster of arrows he shoots at you, at least a way i found to be relatively consistent. Doesn't show on my victory recording so here's an example from an earlier attempt:



Nothing fancy, all i'm doing is trying to bait that attack so that some of the arrows get caught by that pile of junk on the ground. Might be a better way but this seemed to work for me most of the times.

Yeah you ride the horse.

You can't avoid getting hit by the front volley. Unless i didn't try hard enough but the spread is so wide no matter where you move it gets you.

I'm not talking about the rain of arrows that's easy to dodge with horse.

Did you jump? It's been a while just curious.

I... didn't think of it.

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

BTW, there's a way to avoid getting hit by that last cluster of arrows he shoots at you, at least a way i found to be relatively consistent. Doesn't show on my victory recording so here's an example from an earlier attempt:



Nothing fancy, all i'm doing is trying to bait that attack so that some of the arrows get caught by that pile of junk on the ground. Might be a better way but this seemed to work for me most of the times.

Yeah you ride the horse.

You can't avoid getting hit by the front volley. Unless i didn't try hard enough but the spread is so wide no matter where you move it gets you.

I'm not talking about the rain of arrows that's easy to dodge with horse.

You don't ride the horse when he's sniping you. You're meant to roll through that shit. Same thing with the ghost archer dudes underground. Riding horseback makes you an easy target for them.

 

[Anonona]

You can't avoid getting hit by the front volley. Unless i didn't try hard enough but the spread is so wide no matter where you move it gets you.

I'm not talking about the rain of arrows that's easy to dodge with horse.

I used the weapons/flag remains on the arena to block the arrows. As long as you align the Lock-on dot and the prop item you want to use to block the arrows, even the scatter shot he does can be avoided this way. Just be aware that depending on what junk you decide to hide behind, if it is too low and you are on horse the arrow will hit you. An example is the first pile you find in front of you just after entering the arena. I usually go close to that pile on foot, and as soon as the arrows hit it, I ride the horse and move towards the remains on the right, and then just make sure to use cover each time he tries to shoot you.

It also helps to know that you are invincible while you are jumping on your horse after calling it, so if you time it right you can use it to dodge.

 

[Multidirectional]

Yep, Radahn down in couple more tries after switching to bleed. I've been playing the wrong way all this time it seems.

 

[Bigg Boss]

I rode the horse and just double jumped over the arrows iirc but it's been a couple weeks. He did eventually get the horse then I killed him. Also using the cover like Anonona said.

 

[Andnjord]

I... didn't think of it.

Not to teach you to suck on an egg, but the Jump animation has some really good i-frames on your legs and lower torso, there's a lot of attacks you can avoid that way (like the crucible knight or Godrick's stomp) which also allows to retaliate better than a normal dodge.

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

I only recall him having two attacks at the start. He would single shot snipe me and once I got about mid-range he would do the wall of arrows which was easy as fuck to avoid. Did they buff him or something?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Ok, that animal thing and Crucible Knight duo. Cheese it or not to cheese it? I think i burned out myself out on fighting multiple bosses at this point, especially with the last trio.

ha-umm *stab*

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(maybe attack? Shit nope)

ha-umm *stab*

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etc...

 

[Bigg Boss]

For Commander Nial I eventually summoned two randobros. I used Blasphemous Sword magma attack, other person used Goku attack, and I'm not even sure what the other guy did but there were explosions. I almost did it by myself with just the magma attack (whatever it is called) but that also feels cheap according to Souls Logik so I said fuck it.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Commander O'Niell has the funniest move set. Everything he does is so slow and easy to avoid, but people keep falling for it constantly.

 

[Bigg Boss]

Commander O'Niell has the funniest move set. Everything he does is so slow and easy to avoid, but people keep falling for it constantly.

You are tracking I am talking about the second one right? The first one was slow as shit and died by swamp fart.

 

[Andnjord]

Commander O'Niell has the funniest move set. Everything he does is so slow and easy to avoid, but people keep falling for it constantly.

You are tracking I am talking about the second one right? The first one was slow as shit and died by swamp fart.

Bro, he's only just killed Radahn, of course he doesn't know you're just trolling him!

 

[toro]

I may be in the minority, but I actually liked the post capital sections of the game. Most of the things that I found cancerous at first seemed more like puzzles that could be addressed by "solving" them and adjusting the way I approached them. I also like the general feeling of an epic quest that sends you to the ends of the earth to get what you need. Since you're basically trying to kill god, I think that's appropriate for the setting.

I also thought that many of the later bosses were fun, and Hoarah Loux was a good time. Elden Beast sucks.

It seems to me like the no openings complaint is overblown for most of the content, however, there were some fights where I was definitely feeling this. So, for the most part, I think all of these things are fine in the game.

But I agree with this 158.3%:

Thing is, if you go back, and I mean all the way back, to Demon's Souls tutorial, the boss there, the Vanguard, had quite a considerable windup to his attack. It made for a tense moment as you watched him and prepared to dodge. But the thing is, when the actual attack came out, it was fast but not at lightning speed meaning you didn't have to actually count the seconds until you had to press dodge, it was entirely possible to dodge on visual cue and reflexes alone. This delay in attack animation has always been there in these games but it was only in Dark Souls 3 when the bullshit reared its ugly head the most. It became almost impossible to dodge on visual cues because the attack after the windup came out much too fast to allow any possible reaction. To compound the problem, even if you did manage the feat of dodging without time keeping, DS3 massively extended the range, tracking capability and combo length of the bosses. You might have dodged the initial part of the attack, but it was also very possible you could just have rolled into another part of the hitbox or simply get smashed by the followup attack. The tracking also meant if you didn't dodge at the exact moment, the boss didn't commit to the direction and simply turned around to stab you. Elden Ring takes all of this garbage DS3 did and ramps it up to 11. The combos are longer, the hitboxes are larger, the tracking is ridiculous - fucking Radagon alone can turn multiple times fully 360 to hit you - a lot of attacks come accompanied by area of effect damage and there is absolutely no consistency inside the moveset of a single boss who have attacks they can hold for several seconds and attacks that just pop out of nowhere.

From needs to ditch this retarded weird delay shit followed by instant attack. I think the worst offender in that regard are the dumb catdog statues that have no swing animation, it's like an on/off switch of either winding up to attack or already attacked. Dumb as hell and a large part of what makes them not fun to fight (that and they look stupid both when still and when moving). It'd have been better to give them a move set more like the golems.

The other thing is the tracking. Some of the wind up, you dodge, it spins and hits you, can make sense and even look plausible. For instance, it didn't bother me that much in DS2 like it did for some people. However, when you dodge like 0.1 seconds too early and it still does it, it's retarded. This probably requires a finer sense of balancing. And when the non-homing missile ranged and charge attacks do it, it's ridiculous. There's nothing quite like watching arrows curve to follow you or watching a guy turn 90 degrees around a corner in his whirlwind charge thing. That's complete bullshit and it looks dumb to boot.

From needs to go back to DaS2 and we all know that will not happen.

 

[toro]

Yep, Radahn down in couple more tries after switching to bleed. I've been playing the wrong way all this time it seems.

This is the result of bad design or combat balancing. I'm really sad to witness this.

Edit: I'm not sad that you beat the boss but that you had to change your tactic because bleed builds are op.

 

[toro]

Ok, that animal thing and Crucible Knight duo. Cheese it or not to cheese it? I think i burned out myself out on fighting multiple bosses at this point, especially with the last trio.

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

(maybe attack? Shit nope)

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

etc...

That's the fight which broke my will to finish my lvl1 run. Please post video.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Ok, that animal thing and Crucible Knight duo. Cheese it or not to cheese it? I think i burned out myself out on fighting multiple bosses at this point, especially with the last trio.

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

(maybe attack? Shit nope)

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

etc...

That's the fight which broke my will to finish my lvl1 run. Please post video.

I did:

 

[Teut Busnet]

How do I get dragons to stay around?

For the second time now, a dragon just flew away after his healthbar was down to 30%. Happened with the dragon in front of 4 arm blue lady's tower and the one after you climb up to Altus Plateau through the outdoor mine with all those harpies. The last one even had a name.

It's probably realistic, but quite annoying.

 

[toro]

Ok, that animal thing and Crucible Knight duo. Cheese it or not to cheese it? I think i burned out myself out on fighting multiple bosses at this point, especially with the last trio.

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

(maybe attack? Shit nope)

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

ha-umm *stab*

etc...

That's the fight which broke my will to finish my lvl1 run. Please post video.

I did:

I thought you were speaking about
Misbegotten Warrior and Crucible Knight