From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[ELEXmakesMeHard]

Classic strength build. Some kind of heavy 2-hander, and bulky armor, is my go-to setup. I mostly prefer the Great Mace though.

I don't expect any points for originiality or style!

 

[mediocrepoet]

Post your outfits

I worked long and hard on this one, I hope you enjoy.

Spoiler

 

[Elwro]

I hoped that after all was said and done I would be able to talk to the smith about how a weapon he helped forge killed a god. Now I'm not really sure what his story was supposed to be.

 

[Wunderbar]

He just went hollow after his goal was fulfilled.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I hoped that after all was said and done I would be able to talk to the smith about how a weapon he helped forge killed a god. Now I'm not really sure what his story was supposed to be.

Eh, in case anyone still cares about spoilers in this thread.

Spoiler

His fate was tied to the Roundtable Hold since he was its prisoner in body and spirit, so as it deteriorates as part of your quest, so does he. It doesn't matter though because his purpose is fulfilled and like Wunderbar says above, he basically goes hollow once this happens much like in the Dark Souls games.

 

[Bloodeyes]

Every few weeks I try to teach myself to parry again. I roll up a character, grab a small shield and a rapier and try to play the archetype I've wanted to be able to play since I got this game: A swashbuckling cleric/rogue with a rapier and buckler.

It always ends with me incoherent with rage, deleting said character after having spent my day dying to trash mobs in the starting areas.

Today I did it again only I've finally started to make a small amount of progress with parrying. I can parry the following enemies with some degree of consistency:

- Godrick soldiers (any armaments)
- Footsoldiers (dagger or spear but not shortsword)
- Imps
- Kaiden sellswords (mounted or on foot, but its difficult)
- Warhawks
- Knights
- Tree sentinel (but its pointless, there's no riposte)
- The NPC invader with the butchering knife

I can only parry 1 or 2 attacks from most of these, and its still not a strat I'd go to if my back were to the wall. I can also occasionally parry demi humans and pests but not even close to consistently. Still I'm making progress and holy shit has it been hard won.

I'm going to keep working on this. I started with block, counter. Then I progressed to dodge, punish. Parry, riposte is still a ways off being part of my natural playstyle but maybe I'll get there. I was genuinely proud of myself when I did the catacombs fight against the hopping cat and the 4 imps and parried all the imps on my first attempt. Parries were actually useful to me instead of just making me angry.

 

[Old Hans]

Every few weeks I try to teach myself to parry again

I always convince myself "alright this time im really gonna practice and become the parry master"

10 minutes later im back to swinging a giant 2 handed mace

 

[Elwro]

Same here w.r.t. parrying.


I also always tell myself to finally really base my build on something nonmelee but I always end up a dexfag.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Parrying is useful when you're low level imo. Once you get access to better weapons or spells shields become useless. By that point you should also have 40 vigor or something, plus great runes and rune arcs, so you shouldn't have any problems tanking or dodging stuff normally.

 

[Alphard]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

 

[Elwro]

The Flame Art?

 

[Caim]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

 

[mediocrepoet]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

There are also those bleed/thorns invocations - I think those are faith/arcane though, it's been awhile.

 

[Alphard]

do you mean guys flame affinity right? or the weapon art itself?
i just wanted to use my weapon normal attacks

 

[mediocrepoet]

do you mean guys flame affinity right? or the weapon art itself?
i just wanted to use my weapon normal attacks

There's a fire infusion and a flame art infusion. Flame art scales pretty hard with faith.

 

[Bloodeyes]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

Isn't it just that they can scale sacred if you use sanctified whetblade? Lightning scaling runs off Dex but lightning ashes can scale sacred (and sacred can scale lightning).

Just use flame art scaling for endgame and buff yourself with flame shrouding cracked tear and spiked cracked tear. Have the axe talisman in and you'll have 3 stacking buffs on your fully charged poke R2. You could also use a roar weapon art and use roar medallion as well to get 5 stacking buffs but I find that too slow. Spear talisman doesn't apply to the Zweihander poke in my testing.

Also 40 in your main stat is kinda low for endgame. Totally viable I'd just expect you to have a bit more given you're probably at least level 120 by now. Are you doing a mixed build like str/fth or dex/fth? If you are just scale physical (keen or heavy) then buff with electrify armament from the Godslayer's seal to get something on your weapon from that faith.

 

[mediocrepoet]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

Isn't it just that they can scale sacred if you use sanctified whetblade? Lightning scaling runs off Dex but lightning ashes can scale sacred (and sacred can scale lightning).

How do you play the game this long without knowing how a basic mechanic like infusion and scaling works? Or is this just poorly written so I'm not picking up whatever you're getting at.

 

[Bloodeyes]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

Isn't it just that they can scale sacred if you use sanctified whetblade? Lightning scaling runs off Dex but lightning ashes can scale sacred (and sacred can scale lightning).

How do you play the game this long without knowing how a basic mechanic like infusion and scaling works? Or is this just poorly written so I'm not picking up whatever you're getting at.

What did I get wrong? Lightning scaling adds dexterity scaling, not faith scaling, and can be applied to physical, holy or lightning ashes of war. It is applied with sanctified whetblade. So caim saying some of the lightning weapon arts scale with faith is probably incorrect unless he means using sacred scaling with them. That would change the split damage to holy, somthing Alphard was seeking to avoid.

Its possible I've made an error here and missed a lightning ash that runs off faith. Can't say I've used every somber weapon. Still, I just had a look through the wiki table of faith scaling sombers and didn't see any that have faith scaling. So no, you can't scale lightning off faith but you can add a small amount of lightning damage to a sacred weapon with an ash like lightning slash.

My post isn't poorly written you're just a little bitch.

 

[mediocrepoet]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

Isn't it just that they can scale sacred if you use sanctified whetblade? Lightning scaling runs off Dex but lightning ashes can scale sacred (and sacred can scale lightning).

How do you play the game this long without knowing how a basic mechanic like infusion and scaling works? Or is this just poorly written so I'm not picking up whatever you're getting at.

What did I get wrong? Lightning scaling adds dexterity scaling, not faith scaling, and can be applied to physical, holy or lightning ashes of war. It is applied with sanctified whetblade. So caim saying some of the lightning weapon arts scale with faith is probably incorrect unless he means using sacred scaling with them. That would change the split damage to holy, somthing Alphard was seeking to avoid.

Its possible I've made an error here and missed a lightning ash that runs off faith. Can't say I've used every somber weapon. Still, I just had a look through the wiki table of faith scaling sombers and didn't see any that have faith scaling. So no, you can't scale lightning off faith but you can add a small amount of lightning damage to a sacred weapon with an ash like lightning slash.

My post isn't poorly written you're just a little bitch.

I am? Alright then, Captain Butthurt. Maybe learn to write and try playing more than one game.

 

[Bloodeyes]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

Isn't it just that they can scale sacred if you use sanctified whetblade? Lightning scaling runs off Dex but lightning ashes can scale sacred (and sacred can scale lightning).

How do you play the game this long without knowing how a basic mechanic like infusion and scaling works? Or is this just poorly written so I'm not picking up whatever you're getting at.

What did I get wrong? Lightning scaling adds dexterity scaling, not faith scaling, and can be applied to physical, holy or lightning ashes of war. It is applied with sanctified whetblade. So caim saying some of the lightning weapon arts scale with faith is probably incorrect unless he means using sacred scaling with them. That would change the split damage to holy, somthing Alphard was seeking to avoid.

Its possible I've made an error here and missed a lightning ash that runs off faith. Can't say I've used every somber weapon. Still, I just had a look through the wiki table of faith scaling sombers and didn't see any that have faith scaling. So no, you can't scale lightning off faith but you can add a small amount of lightning damage to a sacred weapon with an ash like lightning slash.

My post isn't poorly written you're just a little bitch.

I am? Alright then, Captain Butthurt. Maybe learn to write and try playing more than one game.

What am I butthurt about? You being wrong? I just don't like you. That's the thing. You've been starting little spats with me and leaving rude ratings on my posts as long as I've been participating in this thread. I think your deal is that you're one of these guys who doesn't like people talking about his game.

You're quite happy to give advice to newer players but defend your territory whenever another threatens your self-appointed position as keeper of the knowledge. Or to put it more succinctly, you're a little bitch. Congrats bitch, you get to join my small but highly exclusive club. You'll be the fourth member. Membership isn't easy to earn but once you're in you're in for life.

 

[mediocrepoet]

What am I butthurt about? You being wrong? I just don't like you. That's the thing. You've been starting little spats with me and leaving rude ratings on my posts as long as I've been participating in this thread. I think your deal is that you're one of these guys who doesn't like people talking about his game.

You're quite happy to give advice to newer players but defend your territory whenever another threatens your self-appointed position as keeper of the knowledge. Or to put it more succinctly, you're a little bitch. Congrats bitch, you get to join my small but highly exclusive club. You'll be the fourth member. Membership isn't easy to earn but once you're in you're in for life.

Clearly I'm the bitch here. Oh well, I hope that worked out whatever issue you're going through. I'd hate to see how many tears you spend on something serious.

 

[Dr1f7]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

Isn't it just that they can scale sacred if you use sanctified whetblade? Lightning scaling runs off Dex but lightning ashes can scale sacred (and sacred can scale lightning).

How do you play the game this long without knowing how a basic mechanic like infusion and scaling works? Or is this just poorly written so I'm not picking up whatever you're getting at.

What did I get wrong? Lightning scaling adds dexterity scaling, not faith scaling, and can be applied to physical, holy or lightning ashes of war. It is applied with sanctified whetblade. So caim saying some of the lightning weapon arts scale with faith is probably incorrect unless he means using sacred scaling with them. That would change the split damage to holy, somthing Alphard was seeking to avoid.

Its possible I've made an error here and missed a lightning ash that runs off faith. Can't say I've used every somber weapon. Still, I just had a look through the wiki table of faith scaling sombers and didn't see any that have faith scaling. So no, you can't scale lightning off faith but you can add a small amount of lightning damage to a sacred weapon with an ash like lightning slash.

My post isn't poorly written you're just a little bitch.

honestly i don't think that's how scaling works you've got it all backwards

 

[Bloodeyes]

guys, is there a way to have a faith scaling but without doind holy dmg? i ask because i want to use Zwheinder for endgame and i have 40 faith but i heard most laate boss are holy resistant. i had to use dual wield reaper against mogh because he was resistant to both holy and fire.

Flame Art is the obvious choice, but from what I can tell some of the Lightning weapon arts also scale with Faith.

Isn't it just that they can scale sacred if you use sanctified whetblade? Lightning scaling runs off Dex but lightning ashes can scale sacred (and sacred can scale lightning).

How do you play the game this long without knowing how a basic mechanic like infusion and scaling works? Or is this just poorly written so I'm not picking up whatever you're getting at.

What did I get wrong? Lightning scaling adds dexterity scaling, not faith scaling, and can be applied to physical, holy or lightning ashes of war. It is applied with sanctified whetblade. So caim saying some of the lightning weapon arts scale with faith is probably incorrect unless he means using sacred scaling with them. That would change the split damage to holy, somthing Alphard was seeking to avoid.

Its possible I've made an error here and missed a lightning ash that runs off faith. Can't say I've used every somber weapon. Still, I just had a look through the wiki table of faith scaling sombers and didn't see any that have faith scaling. So no, you can't scale lightning off faith but you can add a small amount of lightning damage to a sacred weapon with an ash like lightning slash.

My post isn't poorly written you're just a little bitch.

honestly i don't think that's how scaling works you've got it all backwards

Explain what you mean by that

 

[Elwro]

Flame Art adds Faith scaling and does *not* add holy damage. Isn't that what the original question was about?

 

[Bloodeyes]

Another day, more parrying practice. This really is a horrible play style. I tried to get Margit with parries only but that was way beyond me. I parried him a few times but he needs more than one parry to get a riposte and there's only one of his attacks that I can parry. So I had to dodge around him forever waiting for that attack, gradually getting worn down from mistimed dodges and failed parry attempts. Really, really unpleasant. After 5 attempts and only 2 successful ripostes I gave up and killed him.

The optimistic energy from yesterdays progress is gone. Fuck parrying man, I'm close to giving up again.

Edit:

Okay this fight was a lot easier. Parries actually felt like a good strat here. Not a clean kill at all, lots of mistakes. But still, parries only first try.

May want to watch on mute. I forgot to turn my mic off so you can hear my button presses really loud.