From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[Dadd]

True. The thread can be closed.

 

[Multidirectional]

Is the remake (the only version commercially available) ok or should I try to get the original version of Dark Souls 1?

Whatever fuck ups remaster does with visuals I wouldn't go back to original because of QoL improvements and more stable 60 FPS in the remaster. You are also more likely to have some multiplayer action with it. I recommend to use the classic armor pack with it though. Remaster really fucked up the armor textures, they don't look anywhere near as good as they should. I also use upscaled texture pack (installed before the armor pack) and the dot lock on (like the one newer From games use, less visually intrusive) with it.

 

[fork]

I'd play the original on PS3 or 360 with 15 fps Blighttown any day over modded Remaster.
And thanks to Xbox' backwards compatibility, Blighttown runs fine now on Xbox Series consoles.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

Sometimes I feel the need to ask BB fans why so many of them think it's FromSoft's best game, but then I remember it's a PS exclusive and think to myself "lol, consolefags".

Sony fanboyism is almost certainly responsible for most of the praise banal linear crap like The Last of Us got. But BB was the most fun I had with pve in souls games by far (played dks, ds2, sekiro, er). DS3 & ER are uninspired/derivative in comparison.
That's not to say BB is without flaws: it suffers tremendously from running at 30 fps or less when the gameplay is clearly meant for higher framerates/responsiveness. It clearly needs a better AA solution than what the PS4 could provide. The matchmaking is broken/too restrictive which killed off the multiplayer 6 months in. The poorly implemented randomly generated grinding dungeons that hold overpowered upgrades would be better removed from the game. And overall the game was clearly rushed/missing content, not the least of which an entire covenant system of which things like beast and alien mode are likely remnants. Still a diamond in the rough is preferable to the insipid turds that came after.

 

[The Decline]

Sometimes I feel the need to ask BB fans why so many of them think it's FromSoft's best game, but then I remember it's a PS exclusive and think to myself "lol, consolefags".

Sony fanboyism is almost certainly responsible for most of the praise banal linear crap like The Last of Us got. But BB was the most fun I had with pve in souls games by far (played dks, ds2, sekiro, er). DS3 & ER are uninspired/derivative in comparison.
That's not to say BB is without flaws: it suffers tremendously from running at 30 fps or less when the gameplay is clearly meant for higher framerates/responsiveness. It clearly needs a better AA solution than what the PS4 could provide. The matchmaking is broken/too restrictive which killed off the multiplayer 6 months in. The poorly implemented randomly generated grinding dungeons that hold overpowered upgrades would be better removed from the game. And overall the game was clearly rushed/missing content, not the least of which an entire covenant system of which things like beast and alien mode are likely remnants. Still a diamond in the rough is preferable to the insipid turds that came after.

I just finished a 3rd run through of Bloodborne, this time with the mod that fixes the frame pacing. Despite still running at 30fps it was a far more enjoyable experience than before. If I had a PS4 Pro I could have run it at 60fps and 1080p. And funnily enough this time the Chalice Dungeons actually clicked with me. Sure they could be improved, but I had a hell of a good time going through them during this run.

 

[covr]

Another argument in favor of playing Dark Souls 1 first: it's the greater game, and the first time experience of it can be ruined by playing any of the other Souls games before hand. That alone is enough for me lmao.

Fat nurgle demon just killed me twice. I did assassin's creed ninjajump hit, but later he just struck me and I was not able to stand up, he just keep hitting me.

I need to think how to approach him and try again tomorrow.
I am still not impressed by the UI. And it seem super linear so far! But I guess more paths opens after I kill that fat demon.

There's a lot of button combos to remember, I really hope it won't be a twitch game at some point!

 

[Dadd]

Just strafe and roll through the attacks

And take off your armor to fast roll

 

[Multidirectional]

I am still not impressed by the UI.

Over time you will learn to be really impressed by it, as all of us have. It's the most impressive UI ever.

Yeah UI is shit but it's nothing you cannot get used to. Game is absolutely worth it.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Dark Souls Remastered has a few differences with the original but none are truly critical from a pure gameplay standpoint... In fact, the main criticism was that the Remaster didn't do more.

 

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Dark Souls Remastered has a few differences with the original but none are truly critical from a pure gameplay standpoint... In fact, the main criticism was that the Remaster didn't do more.

Yes inventory certainly could've used an update.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Another argument in favor of playing Dark Souls 1 first: it's the greater game, and the first time experience of it can be ruined by playing any of the other Souls games before hand. That alone is enough for me lmao.

Fat nurgle demon just killed me twice. I did assassin's creed ninjajump hit, but later he just struck me and I was not able to stand up, he just keep hitting me.

I need to think how to approach him and try again tomorrow.
I am still not impressed by the UI. And it seem super linear so far! But I guess more paths opens after I kill that fat demon.

There's a lot of button combos to remember, I really hope it won't be a twitch game at some point!

Just get behind his ass lmao.

First of all, what class did you pick? If you picked the knight, you are fat rolling by default. There's three rolling speeds and fat roll is terribad, especially if you are new to the game. You need to raise your endurance but you need a bunch of souls for that so for the time being i would just shed the knight armor and go naked.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Dark Souls Remastered has a few differences with the original but none are truly critical from a pure gameplay standpoint... In fact, the main criticism was that the Remaster didn't do more.

Yes inventory certainly could've used an update.

The only thing they did was being able to use more than one item at once without having to use them one by one. Especially irritating when you wanted to consume souls. At least in future games they added that as a secondary "use" command. Why didn't they just configure one Use command instead of two is a mystery though...

 

[Lyric Suite]

There's a lot of button combos to remember, I really hope it won't be a twitch game at some point!

Nah.

Basically all you got is light attack, strong attack, block, parry (+ riposte if you pull it off), kick and backstab. And of course roll and backstep.

Every weapon has it's own unique moveset but there's really no "combos" as such, some weapons just have different ways you can follow up from a standard attack but that's about it.

 

[covr]

Yeah, I have picked knight, tried rolling on my first attempt and died. With second attempt I have tried running around him and look for a weak spot. Also failed. Well, will try tomorrow.

As for the different kind of attacks, there is that tooltip/hint that you can also perform jump and attack (not that elevation kill with RB button) but I was not able to perform it.

I think I can get used to that movement and attack routines, Gothic was much worse in that area.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Yeah first thing with knight you need to level up endurance to at least get rid of the fat roll. Medium roll is fine, can easily finish the game like that if you mix in some blocking. So for the time being, i would just fight him naked. Once you kill him, you can use the souls to level up. Once you hit med roll with the knight armor you should be good to level up any way you want, but getting rid of the fat roll is your priority.

 

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Just take off pieces of armor until you get rid of fat roll. I would try taking off helmet and gloves first. You need to be under 50 percent load to have medium roll. Under 25 you get fastest movement and best rolls. I would say medium load with heaviest armor you could get with your END and STR weapons with shield is the best build for first run, especially if you are action games noob.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Here, made this just for you:



At some point i tripped myself up trying to do a jump attack fucking Elden Ring lmao. Did a couple of things, went behind his ass, stood in front of him first dodging than blocking. You should get the gist i think.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Ho yeah btw if you drop down and press attack you can stab him in the head for a ton of damage.

If you noticed, the trick is all in the timing. It's not a matter of speed, it's knowing when to roll. So right off the bat you have to keep yourself in check, trying not to roll by reflex and instead train yourself to keep cool and roll at the right time.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Just take off pieces of armor until you get rid of fat roll. I would try taking off helmet and gloves first. You need to be under 50 percent load to have medium roll. Under 25 you get fastest movement and best rolls. I would say medium load with heaviest armor you could get with your END and STR weapons with shield is the best build for first run, especially if you are action games noob.

It's also the best option for maximum fashion with the elite knight armor!

 

[Multidirectional]

It's also the best option for maximum fashion with the elite knight armor!

I like Black Iron fashion myself, and it's sure as hell a way safer armor, and is the heaviest set you can have at 40 END softcap with Havel + Ring of Favor and Protection combo. He plays on console so no classic armor textures for him, won't be having much fashion anyway. Given how strong tank builds are in this game it's probably a pretty solid gateway drug for complete action game virgins like he seems to be from his posts.

 

[Lyric Suite]

As for the different kind of attacks, there is that tooltip/hint that you can also perform jump and attack (not that elevation kill with RB button) but I was not able to perform it.

There's no jump attacks here and jumping is one of the most half-assed things in this game. One of the true "final" bosses in the game (the other one being those fucking tails). Report the first time you die trying to make it under the bridge next to Firelink Shrine, and as you curse the game for having to make jumping so difficult, take solace in the fact we all died too trying to make that leap.

 

[Bohrain]

As someone who started with ER like a month ago and now through my first DS playthrough, ER is a lot more enjoyable if you are new to the genre. Dark Souls is just plainly more irritating to a new player with bosses usually not being close to bonfires, jankier platforming and complete fuck you moments like the poison rats or New Londo ghosts. The bosses and fighting is easier in Dark Souls, but Elden Ring gives you a lot of broken ashes of war and summons that you don't really need to be great at the combat at a reactive level.

 

[Silva]

Sometimes I feel the need to ask BB fans why so many of them think it's FromSoft's best game, but then I remember it's a PS exclusive and think to myself "lol, consolefags".

Sony fanboyism is almost certainly responsible for most of the praise banal linear crap like The Last of Us got. But BB was the most fun I had with pve in souls games by far (played dks, ds2, sekiro, er). DS3 & ER are uninspired/derivative in comparison.
That's not to say BB is without flaws: it suffers tremendously from running at 30 fps or less when the gameplay is clearly meant for higher framerates/responsiveness. It clearly needs a better AA solution than what the PS4 could provide. The matchmaking is broken/too restrictive which killed off the multiplayer 6 months in. The poorly implemented randomly generated grinding dungeons that hold overpowered upgrades would be better removed from the game. And overall the game was clearly rushed/missing content, not the least of which an entire covenant system of which things like beast and alien mode are likely remnants. Still a diamond in the rough is preferable to the insipid turds that came after.

I just finished a 3rd run through of Bloodborne, this time with the mod that fixes the frame pacing. Despite still running at 30fps it was a far more enjoyable experience than before. If I had a PS4 Pro I could have run it at 60fps and 1080p. And funnily enough this time the Chalice Dungeons actually clicked with me. Sure they could be improved, but I had a hell of a good time going through them during this run.

How do you do that? Any tutorial?

 

[Lyric Suite]

As someone who started with ER like a month ago and now through my first DS playthrough, ER is a lot more enjoyable if you are new to the genre. Dark Souls is just plainly more irritating to a new player with bosses usually not being close to bonfires, jankier platforming and complete fuck you moments like the poison rats or New Londo ghosts. The bosses and fighting is easier in Dark Souls, but Elden Ring gives you a lot of broken ashes of war and summons that you don't really need to be great at the combat at a reactive level.

All casuls deserve the rope to be honest.

There's nothing like a blind Dark Souls 1 run without having played any Souls game before. All those great moments, why deprive yourself of that experience? Fucking wierdos man.

 

[The Decline]

Sometimes I feel the need to ask BB fans why so many of them think it's FromSoft's best game, but then I remember it's a PS exclusive and think to myself "lol, consolefags".

Sony fanboyism is almost certainly responsible for most of the praise banal linear crap like The Last of Us got. But BB was the most fun I had with pve in souls games by far (played dks, ds2, sekiro, er). DS3 & ER are uninspired/derivative in comparison.
That's not to say BB is without flaws: it suffers tremendously from running at 30 fps or less when the gameplay is clearly meant for higher framerates/responsiveness. It clearly needs a better AA solution than what the PS4 could provide. The matchmaking is broken/too restrictive which killed off the multiplayer 6 months in. The poorly implemented randomly generated grinding dungeons that hold overpowered upgrades would be better removed from the game. And overall the game was clearly rushed/missing content, not the least of which an entire covenant system of which things like beast and alien mode are likely remnants. Still a diamond in the rough is preferable to the insipid turds that came after.

I just finished a 3rd run through of Bloodborne, this time with the mod that fixes the frame pacing. Despite still running at 30fps it was a far more enjoyable experience than before. If I had a PS4 Pro I could have run it at 60fps and 1080p. And funnily enough this time the Chalice Dungeons actually clicked with me. Sure they could be improved, but I had a hell of a good time going through them during this run.

How do you do that? Any tutorial?

You need a PS4 with firmware 9.00 or lower.