From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[Multidirectional]

My enjoyment of these games have always been the combat, where you can parry and dodge enemies and attack the enemies and the enemies respond to my actions.

My brain does Kamala Harris voice when reading this.

 

[REhorror]

My enjoyment of these games have always been the combat, where you can parry and dodge enemies and attack the enemies and the enemies respond to my actions.

My brain does Kamala Harris voice when reading this.

Is it that weird that I enjoy the combat/interactivity of these games rather than the level design?

 

[Child of Malkav]

Is it that weird that I enjoy the combat/interactivity of these games rather than the level design?

Valuing combat/interactivity in a video game is good. Together with good level design is great. Sucks that you have to choose.
But DkS1 does both.
Btw, DkS3 is pure feces. Best Souls 2 is where it's at.

 

[REhorror]

Is it that weird that I enjoy the combat/interactivity of these games rather than the level design?

Valuing combat/interactivity in a video game is good. Together with good level design is great. Sucks that you have to choose.
But DkS1 does both.
Btw, DkS3 is pure feces. Best Souls 2 is where it's at.

Kinda weird that some people seem to champion Dark Souls 2 now. Oh well.

For me, it's Dark Souls 3 or ER due to the combat alone.

 

[Child of Malkav]

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Set pieces mean that every encounter is scripted to happen in a certain way/having certain gimmick, so that every of them can be different and thus more memorable.
I much prefer this over "steady good gameplay" which translates to boringness.

Weird as fuck but whatever. Tried The Wonderfull 101? Set-piece galore but it feels made for them.

 

[Cryomancer]

33 minutes for the trailer and 86,897 people waiting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZenOn7WUo

seem to champion Dark Souls 2 now

Was hated because is more RPG and less Action than other games. Even stuff like i-frames are tied to char stats. But imo the unique ds2 problem is soul memory.

 

[Child of Malkav]

due to the combat alone

That's Sekiro.

Kinda weird that some people seem to champion Dark Souls 2 now.

I don't know about others but I always liked DkS2 so whatever,

 

[REhorror]

Set pieces mean that every encounter is scripted to happen in a certain way/having certain gimmick, so that every of them can be different and thus more memorable.
I much prefer this over "steady good gameplay" which translates to boringness.

Weird as fuck but whatever. Tried The Wonderfull 101? Set-piece galore but it feels made for them.

This isn't really weird at all, this is classical game design, with levels in mind. Every levels are to have something unique in them thus memorable.
But no, haven't tried TW101 yet, heard good things about it tho.

Bayonetta and Vanquish tho, my jam.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

this is classical game design

Naw, classical game design is having a basic hook that stays fun.

 

[REhorror]

this is classical game design

Naw, classical game design is having a basic hook that stays fun.

As said, my favorite games games throw curveballs anywhere they go, that's the interesting part for me.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Sure but that's not classical game design, so it's weird

 

[REhorror]

Every classical games level change, my man. This level you encounter this boss that fights in this pattern, the next you are in a snow level and sliding around.
I'm not sure where you get the whole basic hook that stays thing.

This has been a thing since what? Rockman?

 

[Child of Malkav]

115k.

 

[Silva]

I'll say this. You can argue that From Software switching to a open world format is decline compared to their usual stuff. Fair argument. That being said their open world is still better than all the rest, because their trademark brilliantly designed levels/dungeons still exist within the open world, and that makes exploration in their open world better than everybody elses' open world. You're not gonna find a From Software style area in shit Skyrim, or even the new Zeldas. That's why Elden Ring is better than the rest. I also think their open world is more interesting than all the rest.

"This open world is good because the parts not open world are good".

What a moronic argument.

Go play STALKER and educate yourself on what a great open world is.

STALKER is not open world, its world is a bunch of levels, you have to follow a certain path, get certain encounter or you won't be able to complete it.

Just imagine if you can skip the Underground labs, that would suck massive balls.

First, being open world doesn't mean lacking key progression points. Every open world has these.

And what you describe is only true for first Stalker. Second and third are more open and allow skipping shit.

Also, Anomaly mod.

 

[REhorror]

I'll say this. You can argue that From Software switching to a open world format is decline compared to their usual stuff. Fair argument. That being said their open world is still better than all the rest, because their trademark brilliantly designed levels/dungeons still exist within the open world, and that makes exploration in their open world better than everybody elses' open world. You're not gonna find a From Software style area in shit Skyrim, or even the new Zeldas. That's why Elden Ring is better than the rest. I also think their open world is more interesting than all the rest.

"This open world is good because the parts not open world are good".

What a moronic argument.

Go play STALKER and educate yourself on what a great open world is.

STALKER is not open world, its world is a bunch of levels, you have to follow a certain path, get certain encounter or you won't be able to complete it.

Just imagine if you can skip the Underground labs, that would suck massive balls.

That's only the first game. The second and third are more open and allow skipping some shit.

Also, Anomaly mod.

2nd game and 3rd games still follow this inter-connected levels, CoP just puts on you two big zones.

Anomaly Mod is fetch quest the game, without the OG trilogy, it would be nothing.

 

[Silva]

Being open world doesn't mean lacking key progression points. Every open world has these.

 

[REhorror]

I'm not sure what your definition of open world is, my definition is that the world is literally open and there's no loading screens/cut to black between areas.
STALKER is definitely NOT that.

But yes, open world can have linear narrative/gameplay progression, I agree.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Every classical games level change, my man. This level you encounter this boss that fights in this pattern, the next you are in a snow level and sliding around.
I'm not sure where you get the whole basic hook that stays thing.

This has been a thing since what? Rockman?

That's stretching classical game design, and those are usually variations on the hook, not so much set-pieces.

 

[Silva]

I'm too old to discuss definitions on the web. If STALKER isnt one of the best open world games there is then the genre can die in a fire. I don't care.

What I care is that ER open world is shit.

 

[Cryomancer]

170k waiting for a DLC reveal.

If Baizuo's Gate 3 announces a DLC, does anyone expects a similar success?

 

[REhorror]

Every classical games level change, my man. This level you encounter this boss that fights in this pattern, the next you are in a snow level and sliding around.
I'm not sure where you get the whole basic hook that stays thing.

This has been a thing since what? Rockman?

That's stretching classical game design, and those are usually variations on the hook, not so much set-pieces.

I don't think so...but I just want to see the new trailer so I'm just gonna stop arguing I guess.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Elden Ring, its DLC, and fucking Dragon's Dogma 2 will all come out before Silksong...

 

[REhorror]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZenOn7WUo

Man, WTF, it does the countdown and then asks for more 29 mins....

 

[Child of Malkav]

That music, that beat, fucking jumpscare...and then wait some more...bait.