From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[Cat Headed Eagle]

My takaway from the Elden Ring lore was that all of the demi-gods were pretty much terrible.

Rahdan was kind of a cool dude. Cared for his men, etc. I also liked that in his boss fight you are actually putting a great champion and leader out of his misery and giving him a dignified death. Pulling him back from the dead just to make him simp over his femboy brother is kinda retarded, imho.

Sounds very european tbh

The "table" Miquella is in always looked like a pelvic bone to me, I thought they were going to pull some kind of "unborn" type of lore with xim

 

[AlwaysBrotoMen]

As usual too much hype leads to disappointment
95 in metacritic

https://www.metacritic.com/game/elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree/

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Love that the only criticism is "the game is to fucking long already" lol

 

[AlwaysBrotoMen]

Looks like there are PC stability issues in the dlc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sOUwHFXad4

 

[911 Jumper]

For anyone interested

Hidetaka Miyazaki On Bringing Elden Ring To A Close And The Future Of From Software

 

[cruel]

It seems that DLC can take even 100h to beat

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/s...s-map-was-comparable-to-the-size-of-limgrave/

Less than 40 hours until the release.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Doesn't seem any more weird or gay than some of the shit you'd find in Dark Souls, or a lot of real world mythology for that matter. It's a world filled with strange demi-god incestuous relationships. I don't see what the big deal is. It's a fucked up, stagnant, decaying setting and this is par for the course.

I don't think real world mythology has many gay femboy gods who every other god specifically the male ones lust after. It's pretty obvious gay pandering and fetish baiting. Gwyndolin made no sense either and was also dumb fetish shit but at least the entire story didn't revolve around him.

You mean aside from Loki shapeshifting and fucking everything? And Zeus? And those are just the obvious ones. Just because it didn't make it into the disney version doesn't mean ancient mythology wasn't full of perverts.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Love that the only criticism is "the game is to fucking long already" lol

The other criticism is "yeah it's a bit uneven but hey, compared to the shit out there it's amazing".

I spotted a couple making that argument if you scroll down to the lowest rated reviews lmao.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

My takaway from the Elden Ring lore was that all of the demi-gods were pretty much terrible.

Nah, the writing pushed Miquella as the saviour type pretty hard.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Fuckin hell, I just read you gotta make it all the way to Mohg in order to access the DLC.

I'm pretty sure we've known that since Elden Ring first released.

 

[Silva]

For anyone interested

Hidetaka Miyazaki On Bringing Elden Ring To A Close And The Future Of From Software

So, what he wants to do next? Any clues?

 

[911 Jumper]

For anyone interested

Hidetaka Miyazaki On Bringing Elden Ring To A Close And The Future Of From Software

So, what he wants to do next? Any clues?

Nothing concrete, just these bits from the interview

“I wouldn't necessarily say that open world is going to become the new base or foundation or standard of the company. As I kind of hinted in earlier responses, we have a lot of game directors and designers who are growing, so we'd love to keep an open mind in terms of the types of games that we develop. So, of course, I can't really say anything at this exact moment, but perhaps when you see future announcements from From Software you'll look back at this point and think, "Ah, that's what he meant."”

“On an individual level, however, the sense of overcoming challenges, and the dark fantasy world setting is something I will always have, but I don't necessarily think that will always be the direction of the company because others might feel differently.”

There's a new Gamer Informer interview, too, where he talks about Sekiro being a “big turning point”.

Hidetaka Miyazaki Talks Why Bloodborne Is Special To Him And How It Led To Elden Ring

 

[Lyric Suite]

Bloodborne on PC.
Sekiro 2.

Make it so.

 

[Nathir]

Doesn't seem any more weird or gay than some of the shit you'd find in Dark Souls, or a lot of real world mythology for that matter. It's a world filled with strange demi-god incestuous relationships. I don't see what the big deal is. It's a fucked up, stagnant, decaying setting and this is par for the course.

I don't think real world mythology has many gay femboy gods who every other god specifically the male ones lust after. It's pretty obvious gay pandering and fetish baiting. Gwyndolin made no sense either and was also dumb fetish shit but at least the entire story didn't revolve around him.

You could've stopped at the bolded part.

 

[Jinn]

As of right now, the Steam page for Shadow of the Erdtree says it's releasing in 18 (19) hours. According to the official global release chart put out by Fromsoft, that is false and we're actually looking at a PC release that is 5 hours beyond that, so actually 23 (24) hours away. Just a heads up for people who are watching that Steam countdown and possibly planning their day around it.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

Where's my mother fuckin preload at?

Nvm it's already installed. Cool beans.

 

[9ted6]

Doesn't seem any more weird or gay than some of the shit you'd find in Dark Souls, or a lot of real world mythology for that matter. It's a world filled with strange demi-god incestuous relationships. I don't see what the big deal is. It's a fucked up, stagnant, decaying setting and this is par for the course.

I don't think real world mythology has many gay femboy gods who every other god specifically the male ones lust after. It's pretty obvious gay pandering and fetish baiting. Gwyndolin made no sense either and was also dumb fetish shit but at least the entire story didn't revolve around him.

You mean aside from Loki shapeshifting and fucking everything? And Zeus? And those are just the obvious ones. Just because it didn't make it into the disney version doesn't mean ancient mythology wasn't full of perverts.

Mythology and society at large wasn't nearly as accepting of sex as modern (leftist) historians claim it was.

Even if it was there's a big difference between a fickle king of the gods lusting after mortal women and a literal anime femboy who every exclusively male god wants to bang.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Yes, across thousands of years and an entire continent, everyone agreed on what kinds of sex were okay. Sounds plausible.

You're trying to set some moral high bar with a mythology where people regularly fucked animals, raped eachother, and killed their own children to spite their cheating spouses. The idea that a femboy and anyone they fucked would be too taboo to create a myth about is beyond absurd.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Don't tell him about greek culture, the roman orgies, the catholic priests that owned brothels (which caused the necessity to call a vatican council to ban such happenings)... and that's just Europe.

 

[Silva]

Anybody heard if there will be new Godskin/black flame/Night Eye Queen stuff in Shadow of Erdtree?

That would be the only reason for me to get it at launch. I'm a Godskin bitch.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Yes, across thousands of years and an entire continent, everyone agreed on what kinds of sex were okay. Sounds plausible.

It's plausible because truth exists and human beings have an intelligence capable of understanding good from bad. That's why even today people scoff at gay shit. Even when they pretend to be "tolerant" deep down they still likely flinch at the thought of two men butt fucking each other. And this idea ancient socities were more "accepting" or debauched than our own is just a modernist cope.

"Look, the ancient Greeks were all homos! That means we can be homos today!".

Except no, Greeks weren't homos, and homo shit wasn't "accepted" or normalized. It's a fantasy constructed by some British homo hostorian based on cherry picking evidence in art and by reading too much into certain Greek terminology.

As for mythology, none of that stuff was meant to be taken literally or be a reflection of any kind of societal value. Mythology is basically coded metaphysical or esoteric knowledge. That's the real "meaning" behind the use of myth in Plato's writings for instance.

The question in Elden Ring now is whether they are just relying on mythology or if they actually did capitulate to the "agenda". Given FromSoft's work so far i have a very hard time believing they did (doesn't seem they are even aware it exists, they are just stuck in their own world), but there's the looming trojan horse that is GRRM's influence.

 

[Damned Registrations]

The pearl clutching over modern historians interpreting ancient cultures is especially funny considering how much ancient mythology was sanitized by catholics trying to bring people into the fold by changing their legends to conform to what were, at the time, their modern values.

As for mythology, none of that stuff was meant to be taken literally or be a reflection of any kind of societal value.

Unlike video games, which are serious business and not intended for entertainment.

 

[Spike]

The pearl clutching over modern historians interpreting ancient cultures is especially funny considering how much ancient mythology was sanitized by catholics trying to bring people into the fold by changing their legends to conform to what were, at the time, their modern values.

As for mythology, none of that stuff was meant to be taken literally or be a reflection of any kind of societal value.

Unlike video games, which are serious business and not intended for entertainment.

I think you misunderstand what Catholics (rightly) did. They didn't just "take" their legends, they affirmed them by acknowledging the natural law written in every man's heart. They affirmed them insofar as they were true, because there are degrees of Truth the world over. Like a circle. Catholicism is all 360 degrees, baby. Buddhism may have 80 degrees for example (some views they have on suffering such as acknowledging its necessity but then they stray away into error pretty quickly), the Orthodox have 355, etc. Catholicism is a way of seeing.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Unlike video games, which are serious business and not intended for entertainment.

Unlike video games, yes.

Not to say fantasy isn't often a play on objective realities or archtypes (the best kind of fantasy most certainly is), but mythology is literal coded knowledge and it's very different from fantasy. It's not just some vague "allegory" to various principles or archtypes. Myth is actual esoterism, to be decoded by those with the "ears to hear". That's why i mentioned Plato, because the inclusion of myth in his dialogues wasn't just some kind of aesthetic or artistic touch, or a kind of superficial morality or pietism, a nod to some of the more "irrational" or "outdated" impulses in the Greek sensibility of his time. His use of myth is not "theology", it's actual metaphysics.

The same applies to religious scriptures. That's what explains all the "strangeness" in both ancient myths or ancient religious texts. If the Gods like to copulate so much, it may just be because those myths are dealing with the relationship between trascendent principles, anthropormophized for the sake of keeping those higher truths hidden away from the uninitiated.

 

[Spike]

Unlike video games, which are serious business and not intended for entertainment.

Unlike video games, yes.

Not to say fantasy isn't often a play on objective realities or archtypes (the best kind of fantasy most certainly is), but mythology is literal coded knowledge and it's very different from fantasy. It's not just some vague "allegory" to various principles or archtypes. Myth is actual esoterism, to be decoded by those with the "ears to hear". That's why i mentioned Plato, because the inclusion of myth in his dialogues wasn't just some kind of aesthetic or artistic touch, or a kind of superficial morality or pietism, a nod to some of the more "irrational" or "outdated" impulses in the Greek sensibility of his time. His use of myth is not "theology", it's actual metaphysics.

The same applies to religious scriptures. That's what explains all the "strangeness" in both ancient myths or ancient religious texts. If the Gods like to copulate so much, it may just be because those myths are dealing with the relationship between trascendent principles, anthropormophized for the sake of keeping those higher truths hidden away from the uninitiated.

Well said. *tips zucchetto* Also, the struggle of taking control of your flesh and its difficulty I think is a part of the point of all of those stories with unbridled sexuality.