ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[Nikanuur]

Speaking about performance, I had to tweak the ini file and reduce the resolution scale to 80% to gain an acceptable performance.
This of course after lowering everything on low.
Now the game's appearance matches the gameplay, they are both terrible.
But I'm still playing.
I love it when the early game quests send me to kill end game monsters.
The virtues of open world design.

What kind of potato are you playing it on? I'm running it on max settings @1920x1200 and getting acceptable performance on my aging i7-4790K and GTX 1080.

Friendly Funfacts no. 42: It seems Elex 2 usually works the better the worse one's computer is <insert smirkface towards rich boiis here>.

 

[JBro]

What kind of potato are you playing it on? I'm running it on max settings @1920x1200 and getting acceptable performance on my aging i7-4790K and GTX 1080.

DEFINE ACCEPTABLE

I HAVE A 3080

 

[JDR13]

What kind of potato are you playing it on? I'm running it on max settings @1920x1200 and getting acceptable performance on my aging i7-4790K and GTX 1080.

DEFINE ACCEPTABLE

I HAVE A 3080

Completely smooth everywhere except larger settlements like the Fort and the Grotto. I can tell the framerate is lower in those places, but it's not to the point where it actually impacts gameplay.

 

[soulburner]

Completely smooth everywhere except larger settlements like the Fort and the Grotto. I can tell the framerate is lower in those places, but it's not to the point where it actually impacts gameplay.

That's exactly the problem. Imagine upgrading to an i9-12900K and something like an RTX 3080 and get pretty much the same performance, with huge framerate drops in settlements. If you were still able to call 40 fps "smooth" then I envy you

 

[JDR13]

Completely smooth everywhere except larger settlements like the Fort and the Grotto. I can tell the framerate is lower in those places, but it's not to the point where it actually impacts gameplay.

That's exactly the problem. Imagine upgrading to an i9-12900K and something like an RTX 3080 and get pretty much the same performance, with huge framerate drops in settlements. If you were still able to call 40 fps "smooth" then I envy you

I'd be fine with it because I'm fine with the way it is now.

 

[soulburner]

Good for you then

Generally, there are three kinds of people. Those who refuse to play anything without adaptive sync high refresh rate. Then there are people who are fine with vsynced and rock stable 60 fps. And the ones who accept any framerate as long as the game remains responsive. There is nothing wrong with being in either camp.

However, the fact remains - Elex 2 has terrible and unjustified performance.

 

[JDR13]

I definitely don't accept just any framerate.

As far as Elex 2 is concerned, no one is claiming it's well optimized.

However, it's still odd that some people are reporting much worse performance than others. I have a feeling it's more than just the game in those cases.

 

[coldcrow]

^
AMD-GPUs got shafted. Their driver doesn't support deferred_renderer and can't run the game properly at all.

 

[1451]

It's weird because Elex 2 is a multiplatform game and as we know consoles run on amd's hardware.

 

[thesheeep]

AMD-GPUs got shafted. Their driver doesn't support deferred_renderer and can't run the game properly at all.

That's not true.
Of course AMD GPUs support deferred rendering. I have an AMD GPU and play plenty of games that use deferred rendering.
That's a rendering technique that is decades old by now and has always been supported across the board because it doesn't require anything specific to a GPU. You can do it on mobile, too.

 

[deama]

So what's the consensus for the game so far? Any better than 1st one overall?

 

[Star Citizen]

So what's the consensus for the game so far? Any better than 1st one overall?

I feel that it's weaker than the first in errything that mattered as well as with the writing n mood, which took a massive dive from the first game's (writing wasn't great in ELEX but it had a sort of charm to it) but the world is still a joy to explore and very much worth playing if you enjoyed the first game.

 

[Konjad]

So what's the consensus for the game so far? Any better than 1st one overall?

It's better overall, but combat is still bad. But at least Elex 2 isn't as bland as the original and has *some* *somewhat* memorable characters. The story is crap though and full of idiocies. The exploration is fun and quests vary a lot, but are mostly enjoyable. Factions (even boring ones) are more interesting and less one-dimensional as before.

At least I can see myself replaying Elex 2 one day when I'm bored, which I can't say about Elex.

Gothic > NotR > Archolos > G2 vanilla > Risen 2 > Risen > Elex 2 >>>>> Elex >>>>> Risen 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothic 3/Arcanias/FG

 

[Darth Roxor]

It's better overall

would it hurt you to be right at least once

 

[Konjad]

It's better overall

would it hurt you to be right at least once

The fact that you disagree proves me right.

 

[coldcrow]

AMD-GPUs got shafted. Their driver doesn't support deferred_renderer and can't run the game properly at all.

That's not true.
Of course AMD GPUs support deferred rendering. I have an AMD GPU and play plenty of games that use deferred rendering.
That's a rendering technique that is decades old by now and has always been supported across the board because it doesn't require anything specific to a GPU. You can do it on mobile, too.

Interesting. I read that the current drivers don't support it, though. On another note, downloading DX12 public beta.

EDIT: Quick test shows around 20-30% performance gain. Also you can change gfx settings now without the game going nuts. Now it begs the question why they didn't release it that way in the first place.

 

[Anthedon]

I take it at least waiting for that DX12 patch is the way to go? I've been meaning to jump in at release, but the posts of the first few brave souls who did swayed me to wait.

 

[coldcrow]

I take it at least waiting for that DX12 patch is the way to go? I've been meaning to jump in at release, but the posts of the first few brave souls who did swayed me to wait.

You can jump in right now. The public beta looks promising, it's also more stable.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Downloading the beta is 27GB, basically downloading the game all over lol.

But at least the impression is good so far in steam forums

 

[soulburner]

Well then, it appears the DX12 beta patch solves all my performance issues. Areas with 40 and less fps are now a solid 60 with vsync.
It does look like the AA is broken, though, all available methods produce a very jagged picture, barely better than without AA. Will test 1440p with DLDSR tomorrow.
I'm excited to return to Elex 2 then.

 

[Cpt. Dallas]

Blasmphemy perhaps, but I'm enjoying my run through Risen 3 more than Elex 2.

 

[JDR13]

So what's the consensus for the game so far? Any better than 1st one overall?

I feel that it's weaker than the first in errything that mattered as well as with the writing n mood, which took a massive dive from the first game's (writing wasn't great in ELEX but it had a sort of charm to it) but the world is still a joy to explore and very much worth playing if you enjoyed the first game.

I don't agree that it's weaker than Elex 1. I think it's slightly better in some aspects and slightly worse in others. The jetpack is pretty fun once you get it fully upgraded, and there's more vertical exploration. There's also an even greater variety of enemies, and that aspect was already strong in the first game.

The only thing that really disappoints me is the skill system. Especially the faction skills. They're mostly generic and uninspired. The system feels like it wasn't finished.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Dx12 fixed most of the performance for me. Still not ideal but no longer puke inducing. Wilderness i get full 60 fps, in the fort i get 40 to 50

 

[1451]

And dropped. No matter how much they fix performance, the core game is bad.

chapter 3

I was sent to stop the advance of hostiles.
Go kill flies and boars near the Crater.
Go kill purple dinosaurs near the world heart.
This is where I draw the line, this is where I quit.
All of the game's problems hit me with a crescendo.
Dark places are pitch black, companion's ai is ludicrous, nauseating camera and unresponsive controls.
Huge input lag, it's like I'm streaming the game and not playing it from my hard drive.

Even my boredom is not strong enough to alleviate the mishaps of this turd.

 

[SlightlyRadioactive]

Blasmphemy perhaps, but I'm enjoying my run through Risen 3 more than Elex 2.

Risen 3 was fun but it felt unfinished in a few areas.