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ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

Nikanuur

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Does anyone know why should Hero's Call be one of the most powerful weapons in the game? The damage number doesn't suggest, nor does the weapon seem to have any special effects beyond the fire build-up (quite a few other melee weapons do that too). I've seen the mentioned statement somewhere a while ago, I can't google it up anymore...
 

vota DC

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So except Jetpack Elex 1 Is better? Main quest was more various?

So what's the consensus for the game so far? Any better than 1st one overall?
I feel that it's weaker than the first in errything that mattered as well as with the writing n mood, which took a massive dive from the first game's (writing wasn't great in ELEX but it had a sort of charm to it) but the world is still a joy to explore and very much worth playing if you enjoyed the first game.

I don't agree that it's weaker than Elex 1. I think it's slightly better in some aspects and slightly worse in others. The jetpack is pretty fun once you get it fully upgraded, and there's more vertical exploration. There's also an even greater variety of enemies, and that aspect was already strong in the first game.

The only thing that really disappoints me is the skill system. Especially the faction skills. They're mostly generic and uninspired. The system feels like it wasn't finished.

Also Cleric skills are unexplained....why they have resistance to the alien elemental attack?
Melee has just +10 and backstab while ranged has generic +10 and some skills with +20....no idea why they didn't give knockback or other thing in skills.
 

Star Citizen

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So except Jetpack Elex 1 Is better? Main quest was more various?

So what's the consensus for the game so far? Any better than 1st one overall?
I feel that it's weaker than the first in errything that mattered as well as with the writing n mood, which took a massive dive from the first game's (writing wasn't great in ELEX but it had a sort of charm to it) but the world is still a joy to explore and very much worth playing if you enjoyed the first game.

I don't agree that it's weaker than Elex 1. I think it's slightly better in some aspects and slightly worse in others. The jetpack is pretty fun once you get it fully upgraded, and there's more vertical exploration. There's also an even greater variety of enemies, and that aspect was already strong in the first game.

The only thing that really disappoints me is the skill system. Especially the faction skills. They're mostly generic and uninspired. The system feels like it wasn't finished.

Also Cleric skills are unexplained....why they have resistance to the alien elemental attack?
Melee has just +10 and backstab while ranged has generic +10 and some skills with +20....no idea why they didn't give knockback or other thing in skills.

If you liked ELEX 1 you'll like ELEX 2. I find the dialogue to be a bit more cringe and the world with slightly less character than the first game's but by all means you'll get the enjoyment you want out of it if you liked the first.
 

JDR13

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Does anyone know why should Hero's Call be one of the most powerful weapons in the game? The damage number doesn't suggest, nor does the weapon seem to have any special effects beyond the fire build-up (quite a few other melee weapons do that too). I've seen the mentioned statement somewhere a while ago, I can't google it up anymore...

It's not. You'll find weapons that are much stronger than Hero's Call.
 

1451

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Enemy placement is ridiculous.
Sometimes the game will spawn you near some companion quest and you're about to kill mutants.
But since the game is packed with enemies, the moment you approach they will start fighting some other monster and kill each other.
This happens all the time.
I don't know why should we even form a resistance when the wildlife of Magalan is strong enough to repel the invasion.
 

Lord_Potato

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Wow, I must say, the game is poorly optimized.

I might be playing it on an aged potato,but last year it managed to run Kingdom Come: Deliverance on max settings and only chopped during night combats with numerous enemies and light sources. And Elex is certainly not a prettier game than KCD.

It's not so jarring in the wilderness (while certain lag is there, noticeable especially when I try to precisely measure my jumps with jetpack) but becomes a slideshow in the settlements. Ridiculous for a game with such visuals.

In order to check if my rig did not get old & senile I installed Horizon: Zero Dawn and ran it on max settings. And surprise, surprise, it plays buttery smooth with more more detailed and beautiful presentation. Actually, I might play that instead.

Piranha Bytes, you were the chosen one! You were supposed to bring incline to RPGs, not make me enjoy Playstation ports!
 

ELEXmakesMeHard

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Could it be that Björn Pankratz isn't the visionary mastermind we all thought he was? Could it be time for him to step aside to make room for younger upstarts like Chris Avellone?

:stunned:
 

ELEXmakesMeHard

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I just can't get into this. Not sure if it's because Archolos & Elden Ring spoiled me, or if it's just bad. Maybe I can request a username change.

Damn, I didn't count on this happening. Now I've got no filler before my 3rd Elden Ring playthrough. Maybe I must read a book. :argh:
 
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Are factions worth joining? I'm currently killing everything on the map with the good ol' shotgun to the face trick and I don't see much of a challenge anymore at the end of the first chapter. Tempted to continue solo.
Do you miss much content if you are unaffiliated? Is there decent armor/guns you can get if you don't join?
All of them just sound kind of retarded caricatures.
 

Modron

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Are factions worth joining? I'm currently killing everything on the map with the good ol' shotgun to the face trick and I don't see much of a challenge anymore at the end of the first chapter. Tempted to continue solo.
Do you miss much content if you are unaffiliated? Is there decent armor/guns you can get if you don't join?
All of them just sound kind of retarded caricatures.
Depending on how much you want to save scum you can get the strongest lazer rifle/plasma cannons/2nd best 1 handers via stealing. Best shotgun/bow/grenade launcher are unique weapons which can be found in the world. Armor is a different story, morkon/outlaw gear is 50% stronger than the best rebel clothing you'll be wearing 98% of the game until you find late game Skyand Armor. Zerker armor isn't much better than rebel gear and alb/cleric gear is a bit better than zerker stuff as you can see here: https://www.neoseeker.com/elex-2/guides/Armour_Accessories#Chest_Pieces

The only compelling reason not to join a faction outside of larping is there is an achievement for completing the game without joining one.
 

Yoomazir

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Who tf did the character faces and facial animations? They're so bad it reminded me of the Mass Effect "sorry, my face is tired" meme...

Aside from that world exploration is pretty fun, combat is average at best and the story took a turn for the worse (I fucking hate Jax parenting shit). This is pretty much your typical PB sequel.
 

soulburner

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It's the lighting system they used. If you look at the faces during the night, they look pretty much alright. The facial expressions and animations are very good, they just look kind of grotesque because of how the light propagates.
 

Roguey

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The main release of the quarter ELEX II did not live up to management’s financial expectations in the quarter but we are expecting a positive ROI over time.

Another release, Expeditions Rome, developed by the external studio Logic Artists was well received by players and critics. Both ELEX II and Expeditions Rome are expected to be long tail sellers.

Fabulously optimistic indeed.
 
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Is this game still relevant?
Not really, didn't get good impressions from this forum. I played Elden Ring and now I play Outward Definitive Edition which released on the 17 May, also installed Red dead redemption 2 and death stranding. Probably gonna play ELEX 2 later in the summer or next year when they have fixed it and there are good community mods that fixes it more. Which is a shame sense I played ELEX 1 first time last year which I loved.
 

HoboForEternity

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
It's the lighting system they used. If you look at the faces during the night, they look pretty much alright. The facial expressions and animations are very good, they just look kind of grotesque because of how the light propagates.


Yes, jax's face looks great in this screenshot i took

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Smerlus

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On one hand I have to show respect to PB for just slowly and gradually declining in quality in their video games. They never set the bar that high to begin with but their games have generally been filled with good ideas and good quest design. I really didn't see much evidence of that here.

The highlight of the game, for me, was the little bits of reactiveness spread through the story. The way NPCs would migrate from location to location depending on decisions made.

The low point is the last 1.5 chapters relying on trash mobs to push the story along. Makes me really regret role playing in this RPG. I should have just tried to find the strongest weapon in the game, max out the required skills and attributes and then pick one of the shitty groups to align with. I wish you could have two AI companions because maybe having two dumbasses tagging along, they might actually strike an enemy once every 15 seconds.

Usually the bugs and jankiness are the biggest downers in PB games but this time around it seems nothing was feeling right about this game.
 

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