ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[Jinn]

Think there are chances

Like within ELEX II? No, they will likely not do anything to improve the current content in the game. Project is done, now on to the next thing. Let's hope ELEX III is at least at the level of quality of the first game, because despite having a reasonably enjoyable time with II, it was still a pretty big disappointment.

 

[Kleptocratic debt serf]

- July 4th DX12 Patch Update -

Zyddie [developer] Jul 4 @ 5:42am


Hey sorry, I ended up sick last week.

So update, we are working on a bug fixing update then we are gonna see how to roll this out as it is a completely different version than the current main game, so we have to figure that out before we release it onto live version, especially since we never wrote on the store page that Dx12 was a requirement.

So sadly still quite a bit time until we are ready to launch it.

//Zyddie

^ Will be interesting to see what this "completely different version than the current main game" entails, just DX12?

 

[HoboForEternity]

it's been 3 months without a patch, which I don't mind if the final dx 12 patch actually fixed most of the problems, I might restart the game too because it's been 3 fuckign months

 

[Bigfass]

I typed out a longish post but decided it wasn't worth it. The gist is that I kind of liked Elex and hated every minute of Elex II. For a while I kept playing hoping it'd get better, then I kept playing in order to be done with it.

I played on Ultra so maybe the boring and tedious combat made it worse than it would have been on Normal.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I played on Ultra so maybe the boring and tedious combat made it worse than it would have been on Normal.

The problem is that on normal it's still shit while also being effortless, so if you tone down the difficulty you change the game into a walking sim where the walking isn't fun. At that point you just ask yourself what the point is anymore and quit never to return.

 

[Ryzer]

They wanted to fix one or two things in the last game, they ended up by fucking everything else and fixing almost nothing. Many such cases.

 

[Hobknobling]

They wanted to fix one or two things in the last game, they ended up by fucking everything else and fixing almost nothing. Many such cases.

It is the Piranha Bytes way of doing things.

 

[Miner 2049er]

I don't care for the setting. It's tolerable, but far from stimulating. I care for the sense of progression. That's what makes an RPG (satisfying).
The impression I got from Risen 2+3 and Gothic 3 is, you can kill everything thrown at you from the beginning.
That initial challenge is what I liked about Risen1 and Elex. How's Elex 2 in that regard ?

 

[Bigfass]

That initial challenge is what I liked about Risen1 and Elex. How's Elex 2 in that regard ?

If you play on Ultra it's pretty much required that you drag companions (and their retarded AI) around for combat, at least initially.

Once you get stats for a decent shotgun, you still get one-shot by everything but you can at least do your own killing.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I played on Ultra so maybe the boring and tedious combat made it worse than it would have been on Normal.

The problem is that on normal it's still shit while also being effortless, so if you tone down the difficulty you change the game into a walking sim where the walking isn't fun. At that point you just ask yourself what the point is anymore and quit never to return.

Any estimate when we can expect that review of yours, Darth Roxor?

I'd have to finish the game to do that and I have no desire of doing so. You can read the contents of my notes txt if you want.

Spoiler

- Early impressions extremely bad
- Teachers now have narrow skill categories - too bad about no unique quotes for the picked skills
- Stats do stuff
- Combat is garbage
- Lots of funny recycling (Gothic 1 bird chirp)
- Map markers
- Climbing very welcome but very clunky (w to climb, lmao)
- Triple answers are super dumb
- Enemies drop weapons
- No difficulty customisation
- Lots of stuff lying around to be taken, including armour
- WTF is this menu
- Faction switching is p cool
- Can go factionless
- Retardo camera, fixed since then
- Words cannot describe the retardation of this combat system
- Arctic chili and other shit like dark elex in places where it shouldnt be
- Quick slot bar not visible
- Nu-albs are funny
- Better character system
- Skill points feel like they matter
- Mechanics dumbed down when it comes to item stats etc.
- Dudes gesticulate much less in dialogues
- Who needs ammo craftung when there's no spezialammo?
- Warans and their nests
- Brilliant idea to ground combat on draining stamina and make some munsters immune to that
- New quests pop up as you return to places
- Flying combat surprisingly non-clunky
- Much better balanced XP gains
- Roll attack protocol
- Shader resetting saga
- You don't really feel like there's an interdimensional alien invasion going on
- No different fire modes or ammo types
- Schopfer for Calaan wtf
- Braindead companion AI (as a result of braindead humanoid AI)
- Gutted faction skills
- No suggestion
- Return for more quests in a series
- Alb entry quest really gud
- Impressive reactivity in how Jax speaks of stuff he's already seen in quests etc
- That humanoids can parry while you can't is blatant retardery
- Very few non-combat quests at least for Albs
- Stat bonus from potions is a nice way of fixing tablet hoarding
- I could probably write a dissertation on everything that's wrong with this fucking combat
- Humans with 2-handers can execute faster attacks than your 1-handed
- I groan each time I have to draw my weapon
- HUMANOIDS DONT USE STAMINA FOR ATTACKS WTF
- Random misses in melee, especially against humanoids
- Niggas can fire guns in your face and you can't do shit about it
- Absolutely unpredictable enemy attack animations
- Some nice QOL stuff like hold click to use props/steal
- No NPCs in the wilderness is a bummer
- No potato in Ignadon, as testified by a random journal
- No multiple/alt potion formulas
- Escort NPCs tend to sprint
- Towns feel busy
- Some quests look timed but I haven't verified this.
- Deutsche Qualitaet
- Quick load is super fast, otherwise I probably would have ragequit.
- Absolutely don't get the stupid idea of setting combat difficulty anywhere above 'normal'. Preferably keep it at tourist.
- No ruined Hort is a massive disappointment.
- Magic simply doesn't work
- Afterburners are great
- 'Where do I find quest?' -> "Here are coordinates :^)'
- Calaan launch silo straight up retconned out of existence
- There just aren't very many cool places to go to tbh.
- What's the point of having all these old places to revisit when they are completely unchanged, or empty, or locked up.
- No friendly people in the wilderness to get quests etc from.
- Every now and again I come across something HP bloated even on tourist mode
- No areas with enviro effects like poison

 

[Lord_Potato]

I played on Ultra so maybe the boring and tedious combat made it worse than it would have been on Normal.

The problem is that on normal it's still shit while also being effortless, so if you tone down the difficulty you change the game into a walking sim where the walking isn't fun. At that point you just ask yourself what the point is anymore and quit never to return.

Any estimate when we can expect that review of yours, Darth Roxor?

I'd have to finish the game to do that and I have no desire of doing so. You can read the contents of my notes txt if you want.

Spoiler

- Early impressions extremely bad
- Teachers now have narrow skill categories - too bad about no unique quotes for the picked skills
- Stats do stuff
- Combat is garbage
- Lots of funny recycling (Gothic 1 bird chirp)
- Map markers
- Climbing very welcome but very clunky (w to climb, lmao)
- Triple answers are super dumb
- Enemies drop weapons
- No difficulty customisation
- Lots of stuff lying around to be taken, including armour
- WTF is this menu
- Faction switching is p cool
- Can go factionless
- Retardo camera, fixed since then
- Words cannot describe the retardation of this combat system
- Arctic chili and other shit like dark elex in places where it shouldnt be
- Quick slot bar not visible
- Nu-albs are funny
- Better character system
- Skill points feel like they matter
- Mechanics dumbed down when it comes to item stats etc.
- Dudes gesticulate much less in dialogues
- Who needs ammo craftung when there's no spezialammo?
- Warans and their nests
- Brilliant idea to ground combat on draining stamina and make some munsters immune to that
- New quests pop up as you return to places
- Flying combat surprisingly non-clunky
- Much better balanced XP gains
- Roll attack protocol
- Shader resetting saga
- You don't really feel like there's an interdimensional alien invasion going on
- No different fire modes or ammo types
- Schopfer for Calaan wtf
- Braindead companion AI (as a result of braindead humanoid AI)
- Gutted faction skills
- No suggestion
- Return for more quests in a series
- Alb entry quest really gud
- Impressive reactivity in how Jax speaks of stuff he's already seen in quests etc
- That humanoids can parry while you can't is blatant retardery
- Very few non-combat quests at least for Albs
- Stat bonus from potions is a nice way of fixing tablet hoarding
- I could probably write a dissertation on everything that's wrong with this fucking combat
- Humans with 2-handers can execute faster attacks than your 1-handed
- I groan each time I have to draw my weapon
- HUMANOIDS DONT USE STAMINA FOR ATTACKS WTF
- Random misses in melee, especially against humanoids
- Niggas can fire guns in your face and you can't do shit about it
- Absolutely unpredictable enemy attack animations
- Some nice QOL stuff like hold click to use props/steal
- No NPCs in the wilderness is a bummer
- No potato in Ignadon, as testified by a random journal
- No multiple/alt potion formulas
- Escort NPCs tend to sprint
- Towns feel busy
- Some quests look timed but I haven't verified this.
- Deutsche Qualitaet
- Quick load is super fast, otherwise I probably would have ragequit.
- Absolutely don't get the stupid idea of setting combat difficulty anywhere above 'normal'. Preferably keep it at tourist.
- No ruined Hort is a massive disappointment.
- Magic simply doesn't work
- Afterburners are great
- 'Where do I find quest?' -> "Here are coordinates :^)'
- Calaan launch silo straight up retconned out of existence
- There just aren't very many cool places to go to tbh.
- What's the point of having all these old places to revisit when they are completely unchanged, or empty, or locked up.
- No friendly people in the wilderness to get quests etc from.
- Every now and again I come across something HP bloated even on tourist mode
- No areas with enviro effects like poison

Hey, magic works. At least alb magic. I killed hordes of Skyands with this mass cold attack in which Jax levitates above ground and everyone around him loses hp. It was my way of going through the endgame when you basically have to butcher entire armies of these warriors.

The ice fist often missed however even when I had enemy locked in.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Hey, magic works.

The ice fist often missed however

piss off retard

 

[rusty_shackleford]

ELEX III

lol

 

[Lord_Potato]

Hey, magic works.

The ice fist often missed however

piss off retard

Let me guess: there are really 2 spells in the Alb school and you used the wrong one?

 

[Darth Roxor]

or maybe a random note jotted down in the notepad that is a mental cue for me to remember to write about something specific does not carry meaning in absolute terms

have you ever posted anything that wasn't a complete waste of forum space because i don't think you have

 

[Lord_Potato]

or maybe a random note jotted down in the notepad that is a mental cue for me to remember to write about something specific does not carry meaning in absolute terms

have you ever posted anything that wasn't a complete waste of forum space because i don't think you have

Why are you so salty? Play some Elex 2 instead

 

[rusty_shackleford]

lol at elex 2's lockpicking minigame looking visually worse than risen 2

 

[ERYFKRAD]

lol at elex 2's lockpicking minigame looking visually worse than risen 2

Bottom right?

 

[cruel]

So, I'm trying to play this to fill the gap after Elden Ring, but my first impressions are not that great. One of the steam reviews mentioned this mod collection:

https://www.nexusmods.com/elex2/mods/66

Has anyone tried it? Is it worth trying?

Sent from my KB2005 using Tapatalk

 

[ResetRPG]

Played through ELEX II a couple of months ago and it was essentially what I expected.

An uber janky but solid RPG with lots of Replay value. Wouldn't recommend to most people, but if you dig eurojank or Piranha Bytes then you'll probably have a good time

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Maybe it's just me, but Elex II bores me to no end, despite me liking the first game well enough to beat it. I think the biggest issue is this being a complete repeat of the prequel. There is nothing new either gameplay wise, and the new story is at least not immediately engaging (don't know if it'll improve later). Not sure if i'm going to be playing much more of it at this point.

 

[Bigfass]

don't know if it'll improve later

It doesn't. I suffered through the entire game with that mentality and it was a chore. It's the same enemies, the same skills, the same weapons and the same actually copy-pasted alien dungeons over and over and over. The story is completely bland garbage with "twists" you see a mile away.

I also liked the first Elex fwiw.

 

[ResetRPG]

don't know if it'll improve later

It doesn't. I suffered through the entire game with that mentality and it was a chore. It's the same enemies, the same skills, the same weapons and the same actually copy-pasted alien dungeons over and over and over. The story is completely bland garbage with "twists" you see a mile away.

I also liked the first Elex fwiw.

The end game was an absolute mess imo.

Ended up just having "kill x number of enemies" quests over and over which got extremely grating.

FWIW I did enjoy most of the game besides the final few chapters.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Maybe it's just me, but Elex II bores me to no end, despite me liking the first game well enough to beat it. I think the biggest issue is this being a complete repeat of the prequel. There is nothing new either gameplay wise, and the new story is at least not immediately engaging (don't know if it'll improve later). Not sure if i'm going to be playing much more of it at this point.

don't know if it'll improve later

It doesn't. I suffered through the entire game with that mentality and it was a chore. It's the same enemies, the same skills, the same weapons and the same actually copy-pasted alien dungeons over and over and over. The story is completely bland garbage with "twists" you see a mile away.

I also liked the first Elex fwiw.

Maybe it's just me, but Elex II bores me to no end, despite me liking the first game well enough to beat it. I think the biggest issue is this being a complete repeat of the prequel. There is nothing new either gameplay wise, and the new story is at least not immediately engaging (don't know if it'll improve later). Not sure if i'm going to be playing much more of it at this point.

Totally agree. I recently tried to finish the game but like roxor, I can't fucking bring me anymore to play it. But unfinished games is not my style. Still hurts thinking about it, elex1 was such a rough diamond. All elex2 does to me is wanting to play elex1 again.

You guys should play Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos if you haven't, it's most likely the kind of game you were looking for if you were trying elex 2.
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/chronicles-of-myrtana-archolos-mod-for-gothic-2.133194/

 

[Mig]

Beat the game today, I enjoyed it overall but Elex I is a much better game and wth is up with the ending? Aside from the dumb kill lots of Skyand quests

Spoiler

"Dex dies (or at least that's what the game tells you) and when you talk to his mother she never even mentions it. If you go back to the guy guarding him he also acts like nothing's up."]

The ending/endgame seemed extremely rushed.