ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[cretin]

I think it's safe to say now that neu PB is cooked, and ELEX 1 was something of a fluke.

 

[BanEvader]

Only the first entry in every PB franchise is good. The sequel always sucks (Gothic 2 obviously being an exception) which is then followed up by an even worse third entry.
My theory is that the G*rms run out of creative autism on the first game and end up creating shovelware out of laziness on the follow ups.
We'll just have to wait for Gothic 4.1 before we get another good PB game.

 

[Ryzer]

Wow this game must really suck if it dissappears from everybody's mind 5 months after release.
Also where is the codex review Roxor?

 

[Cyberarmy]

It's Risen 2 all over :/

 

[Modron]

It's Risen 2 all over :/

It's not Risen 2 bad but yeah the final 1/4 of the game is a slog.

 

[soulburner]

Say what you want, but I find Risen 2 much more enjoyable than Elex 2.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Say what you want, but I find Risen 2 much more enjoyable than Elex 2.

Risen 2 certainly has more character of its own,but I would say Elex 2 is much better game overall and offers much more variety of gameplay (jetpack, different types of combat, multiple factions).

 

[Ryzer]

Elex 2 combat is similar to Risen 2 combat, by being braindead single button-mashing. It seems the only thing setting it apart is jetpack.

 

[Ryzer]

I'm still puzzled to this day as to why they took a departure from Risen 1, everything worked fine until they ran out of time and rushed the end of the game. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Now they are trapped into an endless loop of forgetting what works and what doesn't.

Edit : sorry for the double posting.

 

[Abu Antar]

PB claims that Risen 2-3 design was demanded by their publisher.

 

[Hobknobling]

 

[Daemongar]

Elex 2 isn't worth anyone's money since it has the worst optimisation I have seen in years even with the best hardware available

You should try unpatched Gothic 3 sometime. The fans had to fix that.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

There’s no “fixing” Gothic 3.
No amount of fan made patches will ever save that game from being a complete mess.

 

[soulburner]

There’s no “fixing” Gothic 3.
No amount of fan made patches will ever save that game from being a complete mess.

It uses Comic Sans font. That was it for me.

 

[coldcrow]

I think they simply ran out of time and didn't put the game through a proper Q&A. Mpost likely Devs have very powerful machines, where poor optimization does not necessarily get caught. They also might just forget about them having a GTX3080 or w/e, and so the 60 fps in a heavy scene looks acceptable.
Well, it surely backfired and now their reputation has taken a big hit, even in Germany.

 

[gurugeorge]

Over the years, the more I've learnt bits and bobs about game development in an interestedly amateur way, the one thing that talented developers who make buggy, unfinished games with great potential seem to lack is a huge and properly professional Q&A team.

I think it's so needed to get the gameplay right, because great gameplay is such that just tiny adjustments of a range of numbers can make a huge difference to the feel of a game, and to get that kind of fine tuning right, the game has to go back and forth to a good Q&A team.

That's my impression anyway, over the years. I think lack of Q&A and lack of good people/time management, they're the two killers. Most people who actually do the work in the industry are talented enough to make great stuff, it's just the organization and mucho testing they need.

 

[HoboForEternity]

There’s no “fixing” Gothic 3.
No amount of fan made patches will ever save that game from being a complete mess.

https://g3csp.de/en/



probably maybe

 

[soulburner]

Say what you want, but I find Risen 2 much more enjoyable than Elex 2.

Risen 2 certainly has more character of its own,but I would say Elex 2 is much better game overall and offers much more variety of gameplay (jetpack, different types of combat, multiple factions).

Risen 2 has the advantage of good performance. I dropped Elex 2 mostly because I was sick of 30-ish fps in settlements. It has quite a few other issues, but I already wrote about them in earlier posts. Seeing how the game was abandoned by Piranha, I'm afraid I won't touch it until I upgrade to a Zen 4 + RTX 4070.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

The combat killed ELEX 2 for me. ELEX had shit combat, but it was kinda straightforward shit from the start, it set low bars and met them.

ELEX 2 starts off by showing you these modern moves from modern action RPGs, a timed block, etc. But once you play it, you realize it's utter shit, like enemy attacks are completely random and unpredictable, so none of that shit works, and you gotta go back to using a boring hold up block, except now shields dont even block from the start until you level up, so it just feels like a complete backward step clusterfuck.

 

[Paul_cz]

Wow the start of this game is dreadful. Terrible CGI cutscenes completely disconnected from what's going on in the actual game, terrible dialogue, Jax has lame voice acting, terrible looking characters (both Jax and his son - another wtf - just look terrible). To top it off, it's more demanding than Cyberpunk, which looks two generations ahead.

What the fuck happened, PB.

I will persevere of course, since it is still a 3D open world RPG and it's not like there are any others on the market that I haven't played yet.

 

[Darth Roxor]

The start is dreadful, but at least it doesn't get better down the line.

 

[1451]

Current pb is using eu funds under the pretense of releasing games.

 

[Ryzer]

The start is dreadful, but at least it doesn't get better down the line.

Worse than Risen 2 or Arcania?

 

[Darth Roxor]

now lets not get too carried away

 

[Paul_cz]

Not that I want to keep shitting on this, but what the fuck is this shit?

One of the first dialogues in the game. The character face models. The duplicate line. The misaligned prompt. How does this pass QA.
Seriously, PB, come on.

Also, in this location, when looking at those trees, I get 99% utilization on 2080Ti and framerate drops to 50 in 1440p. Holy shit what ungodly things did they do to their engine. If it at least looked better than the first game, but it so doesn't.

And to top it off, 2 minutes after this dialogue the game crashed to windows. On a PC that can run Cyberpunk in 4K for eight hour straight rock stable.