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ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

cruel

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I'm surprised to say this, but I'm actually enjoying this game so far. Playing slowly, 54h in, level 23 - playing the only respectable way: didn't join anyone, didn't touch the main plot, running around with crappy armor and getting one shotted by anything dangerous. And having fun.

Is the game stiff and janky? Yes.
Does the combat suck? Yes.
Is the game worse than Elex 1? Probably yes.

And still, even with all those negatives, I'm having fun. It's amazing how far proper exploration combined with dangerous world can take a game. What also helps is that nobody treats you as a hero here. I heard 'fuck off' more times here than any of the other games I played in last few years.

I will soon finish exploring the map and will need to touch the main plot, so anticipating a massive decline very soon. Will try to delay it as much as possible.

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Antigoon

Augur
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I'm surprised to say this, but I'm actually enjoying this game so far. Playing slowly, 54h in, level 23 - playing the only respectable way: didn't join anyone, didn't touch the main plot, running around with crappy armor and getting one shotted by anything dangerous. And having fun.

Is the game stiff and janky? Yes.
Does the combat suck? Yes.
Is the game worse than Elex 1? Probably yes.

And still, even with all those negatives, I'm having fun. It's amazing how far proper exploration combined with dangerous world can take a game. What also helps is that nobody treats you as a hero here. I heard 'fuck off' more times here than any of the other games I played in last few years.

I will soon finish exploring the map and will need to touch the main plot, so anticipating a massive decline very soon. Will try to delay it as much as possible.

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Same for me. It isn't that much worse than Elex 1, at least if you play range. Exploration still is better than in most open world games. End game sucks though.
 
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MajorMace

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Hello, I am not well versed in the arcanes of Piranha Bytes games. I did play and enjoy Risen back then. I demand an honest answer to the following question : are ELEX games actually worth it ? Can I expect to have a good time ? I'm not very difficult in terms of games, I just want them to be fun and/or good.
 

Darth Roxor

Rattus Iratus
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Hello, I am not well versed in the arcanes of Piranha Bytes games. I did play and enjoy Risen back then. I demand an honest answer to the following question : are ELEX games actually worth it ? Can I expect to have a good time ? I'm not very difficult in terms of games, I just want them to be fun and/or good.

ELEX 1 is great.

ELEX 2 is shit.
 

HoboForEternity

LIBERAL PROPAGANDIST
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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I take it Elex II is to Elex what Risen II was to Risen then.
I'll dive into Elex tomorrow, thanks for the intel :salute:
Well it is not like that at all. There are downgrade in elex 2 regarding combat, main plot and end-game content mostly, but it’s nowhere near risen 2 level. The world is still elexcellent, there are some really cool quests and factions, it just fail to tie everything up in the end.
 

notpl

Arbiter
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Hello, I am not well versed in the arcanes of Piranha Bytes games. I did play and enjoy Risen back then. I demand an honest answer to the following question : are ELEX games actually worth it ? Can I expect to have a good time ? I'm not very difficult in terms of games, I just want them to be fun and/or good.
Piranha Bytes hasn't made anything close to a good game since Risen 1, and I say this as someone who has a four digit playtime in gothic 2.
 
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Codex Year of the Donut
risen 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elex 2
Risen 2 had a distinct style that I enjoyed (much more than what they did in Risen 3) but with 5 factions and lots of exploration Elex 2 is a much better game. Sure it's declime compared to 1 though.
the "exploration" can be summed up as finding yet another bowl of cooked food in the post-apoc wilderness
 

GloomFrost

Arcane
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Northern wastes
risen 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elex 2
Risen 2 had a distinct style that I enjoyed (much more than what they did in Risen 3) but with 5 factions and lots of exploration Elex 2 is a much better game. Sure it's declime compared to 1 though.
the "exploration" can be summed up as finding yet another bowl of cooked food in the post-apoc wilderness
Exactly. Elex 2 is huge but its more of a Ubisoft kind of huge. A lot of quantity but not quality. Risen 2 as a game is MUCH more enjoyable then Elex 2.
 

Lodis

Educated
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Sep 1, 2021
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I'm trying to understand how the female character models in Elex 2 are somehow worse than the first game even though the first game used the same exact model for every female.
 

Modron

Arcane
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Some of the unnamed random cultivator ladies in the zerker camp look better than all the love interests.
 

lukaszek

the determinator
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I'm trying to understand how the female character models in Elex 2 are somehow worse than the first game even though the first game used the same exact model for every female.
before&after marriage, completely normal phenomenon
 

Roguey

Codex Staff
Staff Member
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Some of the unnamed random cultivator ladies in the zerker camp look better than all the love interests.
All the characters from the previous game are like a decade older so that's sensible.
 
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I'm trying to understand how the female character models in Elex 2 are somehow worse than the first game even though the first game used the same exact model for every female.
This is why:

ELEX 2 uses FaceWare middleware for lip syncing and facial animations.

Apparently they had to redo all of the face models, but something went terribly wrong during the process. Particularly the eyes are peak uncanny valley.

 

soulburner

Cipher
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Sep 21, 2013
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Putting the models themselves aside, the lip sync engine they used is fantastic. The effect is even better than in Cyberpunk 2077 which used similar tech.
 
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Yes, the middleware that PB uses is fantastic, they just need to tweak face models for their next game (which is hopefully Gothic 5).
 

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