ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[rusty_shackleford]

risen 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elex 2

 

[notpl]

Hello, I am not well versed in the arcanes of Piranha Bytes games. I did play and enjoy Risen back then. I demand an honest answer to the following question : are ELEX games actually worth it ? Can I expect to have a good time ? I'm not very difficult in terms of games, I just want them to be fun and/or good.

Piranha Bytes hasn't made anything close to a good game since Risen 1, and I say this as someone who has a four digit playtime in gothic 2.

 

[Lord_Potato]

risen 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elex 2

Risen 2 had a distinct style that I enjoyed (much more than what they did in Risen 3) but with 5 factions and lots of exploration Elex 2 is a much better game. Sure it's declime compared to 1 though.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

risen 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elex 2

Risen 2 had a distinct style that I enjoyed (much more than what they did in Risen 3) but with 5 factions and lots of exploration Elex 2 is a much better game. Sure it's declime compared to 1 though.

the "exploration" can be summed up as finding yet another bowl of cooked food in the post-apoc wilderness

 

[GloomFrost]

risen 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elex 2

Risen 2 had a distinct style that I enjoyed (much more than what they did in Risen 3) but with 5 factions and lots of exploration Elex 2 is a much better game. Sure it's declime compared to 1 though.

the "exploration" can be summed up as finding yet another bowl of cooked food in the post-apoc wilderness

Exactly. Elex 2 is huge but its more of a Ubisoft kind of huge. A lot of quantity but not quality. Risen 2 as a game is MUCH more enjoyable then Elex 2.

 

[Lodis]

I'm trying to understand how the female character models in Elex 2 are somehow worse than the first game even though the first game used the same exact model for every female.

 

[Modron]

Some of the unnamed random cultivator ladies in the zerker camp look better than all the love interests.

 

[lukaszek]

I'm trying to understand how the female character models in Elex 2 are somehow worse than the first game even though the first game used the same exact model for every female.

before&after marriage, completely normal phenomenon

 

[Roguey]

Some of the unnamed random cultivator ladies in the zerker camp look better than all the love interests.

All the characters from the previous game are like a decade older so that's sensible.

 

[Zeriel]

I take it Elex II is to Elex what Risen II was to Risen then.
I'll dive into Elex tomorrow, thanks for the intel

I'd argue at it's worse in many ways, at least Risen 2 has a functional camera.

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

I'm trying to understand how the female character models in Elex 2 are somehow worse than the first game even though the first game used the same exact model for every female.

This is why:

ELEX 2 uses FaceWare middleware for lip syncing and facial animations.

Apparently they had to redo all of the face models, but something went terribly wrong during the process. Particularly the eyes are peak uncanny valley.

 

[soulburner]

Putting the models themselves aside, the lip sync engine they used is fantastic. The effect is even better than in Cyberpunk 2077 which used similar tech.

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

Yes, the middleware that PB uses is fantastic, they just need to tweak face models for their next game (which is hopefully Gothic 5).

 

[Lord_Potato]

Yes, the middleware that PB uses is fantastic, they just need to tweak face models for their next game (which is hopefully Gothic 5).

Gothic 4. The series ended with 3.

 

[thesheeep]

Yes, the middleware that PB uses is fantastic, they just need to tweak face models for their next game (which is hopefully Gothic 5).

Gothic 4. The series ended with 3.

I'm sure he was talking about Chronicles Of Myrtana, which is kinda like the Gothic 4 we never got.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Yes, the middleware that PB uses is fantastic, they just need to tweak face models for their next game (which is hopefully Gothic 5).

Gothic 4. The series ended with 3.

I'm sure he was talking about Chronicles Of Myrtana, which is kinda like the Gothic 4 we never got.

It's technically gothic 0. Like yakuza 0

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Yes, the middleware that PB uses is fantastic, they just need to tweak face models for their next game (which is hopefully Gothic 5).

Gothic 4. The series ended with 3.

We already have Gothic 4 tho

 

[Dodo1610]

You guys should appreciate Gothic 4 Arcania more because it was so bad and sold so poorly that it bankrupted both the developer and the publisher. Which spared us from Gothic: Battle Royales, Card games or MMOs for the last decade. We need more complete fuck-ups like Arcania so that the "suits" lose interest in ruining our favourite franchises.

I finally tested this with my new PC and it's literally the worst-performing game I possess. With a Ryzen 5700X and an RTX 3060, I get FPS drops down to 45FPS have never even seen Cyberpunk on the highest setting with full Rayttracing drop so low. Either PB has become utterly incompetent or they just don't care anymore. Given the shitty kill 30 robots companion quest I genuinely fear that PB has lost all passion for game dev and merely continues it to get paid.

 

[thesheeep]

I finally tested this with my new PC and it's literally the worst-performing game I possess. With a Ryzen 5700X and an RTX 3060, I get FPS drops down to 45FPS have never even seen Cyberpunk on the highest setting with full Rayttracing drop so low. Either PB has become utterly incompetent or they just don't care anymore. Given the shitty kill 30 robots companion quest I genuinely fear that PB has lost all passion for game dev and merely continues it to get paid.

Similar here. My PC can run absolutely anything on highest details, but this game... I mean, it's still 50+ fps across the board, but man does it make the rig work for it.

And it really doesn't look that good. Honestly, I found Elex 1 looked better, just more atmosphere all around.

In Elex II, everything looks like it was just "put there".
For example, the Berserker town in Elex really did look unique. In Elex II the Berserker town looks like someone just placed a bunch of random buildings and a few plants.
It's really weird - as if the level designer was replaced by an intern or something.

 

[SlightlyRadioactive]

Yes, the middleware that PB uses is fantastic, they just need to tweak face models for their next game (which is hopefully Gothic 5).

Gothic 3. The series ended with 2.

I'm sure he was talking about Chronicles Of Myrtana, which is kinda like the Gothic 3 we never got.

ftfy

 

[HoboForEternity]

So as promised some news this week.

I can now finally confirm that before November is over DX12 will be rolled out on Steam, GOG and Epic.

Updated the original posts across the board!

//Zyddie

well that took half a year

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

The original ELEX was the best release of 2017. ELEX 2 will be the best release of 2022, in a year where both Elden Ring and Skyrim in Space are a thing.

Well this aged poorly...

 

[Ryzer]

Any news about a possible new IP for a change?

 

[Raghar]

I finally tested this with my new PC and it's literally the worst-performing game I possess. With a Ryzen 5700X and an RTX 3060, I get FPS drops down to 45FPS have never even seen Cyberpunk on the highest setting with full Rayttracing drop so low. Either PB has become utterly incompetent or they just don't care anymore. Given the shitty kill 30 robots companion quest I genuinely fear that PB has lost all passion for game dev and merely continues it to get paid.

Similar here. My PC can run absolutely anything on highest details, but this game... I mean, it's still 50+ fps across the board, but man does it make the rig work for it.

And it really doesn't look that good. Honestly, I found Elex 1 looked better, just more atmosphere all around.

In Elex II, everything looks like it was just "put there".
For example, the Berserker town in Elex really did look unique. In Elex II the Berserker town looks like someone just placed a bunch of random buildings and a few plants.
It's really weird - as if the level designer was replaced by an intern or something.

ELEX was a game of passion. ELEX II is sequel for money.

I'm actually wondering if they didn't get scolded for that racist story.

 

[GhostCow]

I can't find an announcement or patch notes, but I'm currently downloading a 24gb patch, so it's probably safe to assume the DX12 patch is finally out.