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Elite Dangerous - Yay or Nay?

Discussion in 'Space Games' started by Jools, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. Nathaniel3W Rockwell Studios Patron Developer

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    In Odyssey, are they making any new ship upgrades that you can only get by doing first-person-shooter missions? Are all of our highly engineered pre-Odyssey ships going to be useless if we don't get the expansion?
     
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  2. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer Sad Loser

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    I didn't hear about any Odyssey specific ships or upgrades.
     
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  3. Fishy Savant

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    So, against all my expectations, I'm actually enjoying this. Yes, it randomly decides to crawl for no good reason, and even logging in at the weekend took 3/4 attempts each time, and yes, they fucked up the planetary surfaces big time, but the on-foot sections are actually pretty cool as far as I'm concerned. Now, this is with the caveat that I have all the ships I'll probably ever want and 600m credits that I'm not sure what to do with (which isn't even that much by the standards of the fleet carrier nolifers), so I'm just doing stuff for the sake of doing it, and I don't care that the time/reward is ridiculous. But those wreck site salvage missions are great now that you actually get out of the ship and manually inspect the stuff around, cut down panels and overload circuitry. I'm having a good time with that stuff. The "go scan data at this random planetary outpost" was my thing before, when it was forced into the SRV with nothing to do than point at tower and scan, the new stuff is a straight upgrade on that.

    Settlement infiltration is ok, it's the same stuff, just with more mechanics such as scanning people to duplicate security credentials, locating data terminals etc. Haven't done much of it yet though. Did some ground CZ too, and it's like playing an interception mission in Warframe, just worse. Still serviceable, and a quick way to get random pew pew action. Again, not worth the time for the credit-conscious player (make less than 400k from a win in a high-intensity conflict) but since at this point I don't care about credits...

    The main thing that irks me - and it's typical FD - is the lack of social features. They added the equivalent of mmo hubs, the one place where you come across other players in a non-hostile context. Yet there's nothing to interact. No integrated voice chat, no text chat bubbles, no emotes, nothing. I didn't even care for the multiplayer in this game, but having spent a bit of time in an outpost watching player ships going in/out and seeing players walk around me, it's hilariously sad to have to acknowledge each other with crouch spam or side strafing.

    Had they not completely fucked up planet surfaces, I'd call it a solid expansion, even with all its other issues. As is, I'm loving the new stuff, but it's clearly a shitty beta downgrade in many ways and Braben deserves all the flak from the shitty Steam rating his baby is getting.
     
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  4. moleman Savant Patron

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    That may because the hardcore fans in the FD forums will tell you that this is not an MMO. At least that was the case in the days when I played the game, between 2014 and 2017. They would get mad if someone called it an MMO. So if it's not one, It does not need MMO features.
     
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  5. DDZ Red blood, white skin, blue collar Patron

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    I was enjoying it at first, but now I just can't handle the bugs anymore.

    The graphics are fucked, shit is too dark, have a hard time even seeing some gas giants in the goddamn map, they are just black.

    There is an obvious bug with lod on some planets, they look find from a distance but when you land on they are mostly flat with textures straight out of 2003.

    Some people on the forums were posting planets with the same formation repeating in such an obvious way that it's too recognizable. I hope this is a bug, but people were quoting some worrying quotes from people involved in development about changing the way the planets are generated to make it more compatible with on foot gameplay.

    Route planner won't even include neutron jumping anymore even though fastest route with yet cone boost is on, maybe because they look like this now?:
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    Oh, and almost forgot about how there are outposts and crashed ships in every goddamn system with landable planets I visited so far, and I started 10k from Sag A*

    Anyway, if these things are fixable bugs I will happily come back, because some of the new planets look awesome. Just a shame for a player like me who just explores and doesn't care about 99% of the shit they added recently.
     
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  6. Fishy Savant

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    Yeah, they somehow removed the limit they had added in Horizons after similar complaints, so we're back to ship wrecks all over the place.

    Also, they introduced exobiology to appease explorers, but you need a specific suit for it (the Artemis), and you need to buy that at a station. Gotta love how all those explorers out there will be finding plants all over the place but be unable to scan them. :hahano:
     
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  7. DDZ Red blood, white skin, blue collar Patron

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    Aye, first planet I scanned and landed on I found a crashed probe. I was thinking it was strange to find one all the way out there, but heh. I walk over and see there is a panel that I knew you could cut open, but I just had the flight suit, so no luck. Figured I would pick up the tool at a station in Colonia later.

    Jumped some more, scanned another planet with plants on it, oh can't scan those either. Oh well, will get the needed tool in Colonia later.

    Cue me landing on a station in Colonia only to find out the cutter tool and scan tool are both in different outfits... So now I have to chose to be able to scan spacegrass or collect engineering mats from buildings/crash sites? That's kinda infuriating.
     
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  8. Fishy Savant

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    Yeah it's pretty stupid. But you're not actually stuck and don't have to choose, just buy both suits that's all. Use the Maverick for wreck sites, and the Artemis for plant areas. You can (and should) have all suits basically, and you can choose which one to use from the ship, from the same menu as the Disembark button (should be a 'manage loadout' somewhere).
     
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  9. DDZ Red blood, white skin, blue collar Patron

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    Aye I realized that after I posted it and I think you can even change loadouts in the SRV, so that's something.
     
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  10. Retardo Educated

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    This is so mind-numbingly retarded on their part it feels like trolling. I mean, they've fucked up big with this update, and their arbitrary limitations on gameplay and QoL features because of hurrdurr muh realism also showed their idiocy.
    But conceiving the idea that to use two different tools you'd have to change suits is purest decline.
     
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  11. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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  12. Nathaniel3W Rockwell Studios Patron Developer

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    That's how they set up the suits? No problem. It's just like when I go into combat. I use one ship with lasers to take down the shields, and then I go switch to my ship with cannons to take out the hull.
    :troll:
     
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  13. Nathaniel3W Rockwell Studios Patron Developer

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    I don't follow their dev team. Is that the same person, but wearing drag?
     
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  14. DraQ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    So that's why it only has MMO drawbacks. Innovative.
     
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  15. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    Looks like the devs are starting to troon out.
     
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  16. MadMaxHellfire Arcane

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    no wonder the latest expansion is a travesty.
     
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  17. Razor Arcane

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    So. No ship interiors I take it?

    The main thing the feet crowd wanted and they fail to provide. :positive:

    Also what about wreck salvage- are there new objects peeps have seen? Can you enter wrecks? There are some interesting opportunities in theory like derelict mega/generation ships on moons but that would require imagination and a focused team.
     
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  18. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    The only thing the space legs retards achieved is the total destruction of the planetary generation system.
     
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  19. Stokowski Arcane

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    I haven't logged in to Elite for a while, but, good old Frontier were kind enough to email me with a roundup of the forums:

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  20. Trans-Financial-Man Prophet

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    As with No Man's Sky this only happens because gamers are easily pleased retards. They all enjoy the narrative that No Man's Sky is "redeemed" but can't be bothered to actually play the game and find out it's still just as shallow and hollow as before. But with more grind islands. The same will happen here. As it will with Cyberpunk. ED Dads a year from now will shout from the rafters that Odyssey is "fixed" because they added "content" which I guarantee will be some form of engineer grind or some other tedious bullshit. We still won't get ship interiors, nor VR support. The fundamental problems with ED won't be fixed. But ED Dads will be satisfied like the starving and pathetic dogs they are.
     
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  21. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    Either that or they'll abandon it like they did the Arena or Powerplay.
     
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  22. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    https://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/3112530528178714659/?ctp=6#c3112530528185747484

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  23. Fishy Savant

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    I'm still enjoying this a lot. I know I'll get bored, but that's the best time I've had with Elite in years. The performance on the ground is shocking though, they're doomed if they don't fix that.
     
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  24. Razor Arcane

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    tsevo?

    VR was working fine in Horizons about three weeks ago when I last logged in. Is it broken with odyssey?
     
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  25. Kao Literate

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    It's not even broken, just isn't available. If you get out of your ship while using Odyssey in VR the game switches to a virtual TV screen 2d window mode - there's no way to play the on foot part of the game (ie Odyssey itself) in 3d with head tracking.
     
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