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Emulation central - recommendations in 1st post

Puukko

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Fire Emblem Awakening chugs during battle animations in Citra, and quite badly. I think this is the biggest performance issue I've had on the emulator. Of course, the easiest solution is to disable the animations which leads to considerably smoother gameplay, but that is still odd.

I also couldn't get the DLC to work on two different images, it simply gets stuck loading in the DLC area. Also, changing the voice language likes to get reverted, though I suspect this may be an issue with the game itself.

Edit: DLC works fine, just have to make sure to acquire unencrypted versions.

People with a lot of decrpyted dlc files:
iu


Also what was the problem?Unecrypted/decrpyted roms or dlc cia files.
Just had to acquire unencrypted DLC .cias as the ones I had gotten earlier turned out to be encrypted. A bit confusing with the same file extensions as the games themselves go from .cia to .3ds when unencrypted.
 

flyingjohn

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Did a ll bit of nintendo emu testing.

Switch:
Both ryujinx and yuzu are necessary if you want to play most games.
Cemu is quicker but less compatible for less popular games.The amount of game i get just a black screen on cemu while ryujinx gets full video is staggering.
Romhacking wise ,they both fail.You need to do a lot of trick to get anything running and event hen there are issues.
Conclusion: Shockingly competent and the first time we have two emu's for modern consoles being viable.

WII-U:
Cemu has become quite better,no thanks to the actual programmer.If you want to play most games you are gonna need the graphics paks made by the community to fix most of the errors and slowdowns.The community fixing closed source emus never changes.
Also be very wary of cemu's auto cpu mode bullshit.It just doesn't work for most games.Edit the cpu mode per game basis until you get something stable.
Also i have never seen that a emu won't load a game if the game folder name is changed.Must be something in the load line files pointing to a specific name.
Conclusion:You can practically play anything and just downgrade to a earlier version if performance tanks when you update.
Edit:
Forgot to talk about the gamepad screen.If any game requires significant use of the gamepad screen,use separate gamepad viewer to make it manageable.Also you can use shift + tab to toggle the gamepad screen.

3DS:
Citra is still somewhat shaky.Stuff like luigi mansion,fire emblem and other jap srpg seem to be lagging in some cases hard(animation wise mostly).It is better then what was available years ago but,it is snail paced when it comes to fixing stuff and performance wise.
Biggest improvement by far is the ability to install encrypted cia files and emulating new3ds circle pad pro.
Do not attempt to even use the retoarch core,it is slower and buggier.
Conclusion:Good for what it is,but that is all.

Also fuck Nintendo for its bullshit Pokemon shenanigans.
Here is a qr code list for pokemon sun and moon already made to be used with citra:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P7fQ5AByFW8Q6cwNVr3zF2VTUHodIrBZ
But that is not all,how about those annoying one time events bullshit you ask.Well,got you covered there as well.
Here is a general pokemon editor to add whatever the fuck you want to:
https://projectpokemon.org/home/files/file/1-pkhex/
And here are the event files needed:
https://github.com/projectpokemon/EventsGallery
Instructions:
https://projectpokemon.org/home/tutorials/save-editing/using-pkhex/importing-wondercards-r29/
 
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Duraframe300

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3DS:
Citra is still somewhat shaky.Stuff like luigi mansion,fire emblem and other jap srpg seem to be lagging in some cases hard(animation wise mostly).It is better then what was available years ago but,it is snail paced when it comes to fixing stuff and performance wise.
Biggest improvement by far is the ability to install encrypted cia files and emulating new3ds circle pad pro.
Do not attempt to even use the retoarch core,it is slower and buggier.
Conclusion:Good for what it is,but that is all.

Citra really suffers under Yuzu's development. It's been relegated to a side project for them at best.

BTW: Has anybody tried Vvctre? That one seems to be at least in active development.
 

LESS T_T

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If anyone's interested, it seems they're accepting anyone for beta testing RetroArch on Steam. Just click "Request Access" button on the store page.

 

lightbane

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RA devs didn't have enough money after that drama stunt about "a pirate robbing the code" thing? Also, will Steam even accept the emulator? It is a direct access to ROM emulation, which is illegal.
 

LESS T_T

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RA devs didn't have enough money after that drama stunt about "a pirate robbing the code" thing? Also, will Steam even accept the emulator? It is a direct access to ROM emulation, which is illegal.

I'm not sure it's illegal, but anyway there's a precedent.



Though this is closed source. Releasing open source software on Steam can be more tricky AFAIK.
 

flyingjohn

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Can anybody with windows 10 test a mac emu setup?
The previous version worked fine on windows 7 but the new one won't even let me install.The file is here:
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/MacSys761Installer.exe

You don't need to install it,just wondering will it let you go on with the installation to the point where you can choose the location.
It is a preconfigured basilisk 2 emu for anybody wondering.
 

Nifft Batuff

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Can anybody with windows 10 test a mac emu setup?
The previous version worked fine on windows 7 but the new one won't even let me install.The file is here:
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/MacSys761Installer.exe

You don't need to install it,just wondering will it let you go on with the installation to the point where you can choose the location.
It is a preconfigured basilisk 2 emu for anybody wondering.
It worked on my windows 10.
 

flyingjohn

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Can anybody with windows 10 test a mac emu setup?
The previous version worked fine on windows 7 but the new one won't even let me install.The file is here:
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/MacSys761Installer.exe

You don't need to install it,just wondering will it let you go on with the installation to the point where you can choose the location.
It is a preconfigured basilisk 2 emu for anybody wondering.
It worked on my windows 10.
Thanks for trying.
Guess the error is connected to windows 7 only.
 

flyingjohn

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Fuck mac emulation.It is not worth the hassle.

Spend hours dealing with emu setups and then might and magic bitches about low memory on a machine with 1000x memory.
Edit manually to make it use more memory and it crashes,fuck me.

And all i get for my troubles are black and white versions of popular games with worse ui and a mediocre ultima clone.At least the GS had bards tale hd and pirates.
And yes,i know that some mac games had slightly better graphics,still ain't worth the hassle.

For anybody wanting to do mac emulation:
Go here and follow instructions for your emu of choice:
https://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/mini_vmac_setup
OR go here and install a preconfigured version of the mac os you want:
http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/macos9win.html

A couple of notes:
-Sheep emu is mostly designed for more modern os(late 90's)
-Basilisk is designed for older macs but leaves files on your computer which is annoying(they are hidden but it still a pain)
-Minivmac is a weird middle ground.You can find boot disks and os roms on their website
-Pick quadra machine roms,they are the preferred versions
 
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CryptRat

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I totally agree that it's very complicated to make one game work and then no other won't work with the same settings, it's likely I'll never bother with it in the future either. Now, if it works with your current config then you could give Jewel Of Arabia : Dreamers a try. It's not an Ultima clone but rather an Exile/Realms clone, in a cool Arabian nights settings.
 

Morpheus Kitami

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I can't actually disagree, even with prebuilt Mac installers. I remember once upon a time I had Sheepshaver working perfectly, at least, I didn't have any issues.Then I update my OS from Ubuntu 16 to Ubuntu 18...and its broken. I somehow manage to fix it and sound is still broken and none of the fixes work at all. Its probably easier on Windows, but its been a while since I last had anything to do with that. I think the only real interesting exclusives it has are Odyssey: The Legend of Nemesis, A-10 Attack and Pathways of Darkness, outside of adventure games and all those Japanese ones which are probably even harder to get running. Pathways technically has a port, but its probably awkward, since its in the Marathon engine.
 

v1rus

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How good are the PSP emus? I want to play Tactics Ogre, and I have an actual PSP. But, Im not leaving my house a lot these days, and that small screen is a PITA.

Should I play it on the PSP, or on the emu?
 

Baron Dupek

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How good are the PSP emus? I want to play Tactics Ogre, and I have an actual PSP. But, Im not leaving my house a lot these days, and that small screen is a PITA.

Should I play it on the PSP, or on the emu?

Emus are pretty good for years, TO should be playable and can be finished.
 

Baron Dupek

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How good are the PSP emus? I want to play Tactics Ogre, and I have an actual PSP. But, Im not leaving my house a lot these days, and that small screen is a PITA.

Should I play it on the PSP, or on the emu?

Emus are pretty good for years, TO should be playable and can be finished.

Does it look good on PC screen?

If you use some antialiasing then sure, even better than original console.
 

Nifft Batuff

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Due to the low resolution of the display and the easy to use dump/load textures of Citra, the 3DS games are among the best candidates to be emulated in HD with AI-upscaling algorithms. Inspired by this work on SMTIV, I tried to do something similar for SMTIV-A and Soul Hackers. The following are some preliminary results...

SMTIV-A
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upscaled:
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original:
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upscaled:
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original:
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upscaled:
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mmm...

edit: Soul Hackers tests
original
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upscaled:
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Derringer

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Seems like a cheap way to make some patreon bux, at least you could fix something you halfway enjoy.
 

Night Goat

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How is DS emulation? I'm having trouble finding compatibility lists, does that mean that pretty much everything works or that nothing does?
 

CyberWhale

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How is DS emulation? I'm having trouble finding compatibility lists, does that mean that pretty much everything works or that nothing does?

Most things should work and be playable, but the quality of emulation is a bit iffy. At least it was when I've tried to play shit on it a couple of years ago.
Should try to finish Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective honestly, seems like a cool game.
 
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Why the fuck would you use RetroArch for anything except possibly emulators with no/worse GUI than RetroArch (something that doesn't include MelonDS)?
Superior a/v sync and next-frame latency (runahead is a real gamechanger). I'm very sensitive to input lag and it's pretty much impossible for me to play anything that's remotely action-y on say, PCSX2.

https://www.retroarch.com/?page=latency

It's worth surmounting all the UI bullshit (you get used to it eventually) for this reason alone.

Also, great CRT shaders.
 

spekkio

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It's worth surmounting all the UI bullshit
RA has absolutely great UI, the ability to do everything with the gaypad is fantastic - fuck da haters.
 

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