Vapourware End State - turn-based tactics by Finnish lunatic - now available on Early Access(!)

[Shaewaroz]

That's how we take the money and run in Finland.

 

[geno]

More like they take our hearts and run. This said,

phosphorous25/05/2020
I'll just clear up few things regarding the discussions above. Yes there are investors involved, that is how the development has been funded. At most the team was 5 full-time members, some were 2-3 years continuously. The reason they are not involved anymore is money, I couldn't afford / it didn't make sense to keep them on the payroll since the project went so much over time. I personally have been doing this as the main project the whole time, I haven't had any other jobs during this

 

[Vityaz]

So uh... not sure I am understanding it correctly, but what exactly was the reason that buried this project? (or least made it shrink to a one man effort)

Not enough money? Bad management and planning?

 

[Alienman]

It was too cool for 2020. So it had to go.

 

[Ninjerk]

So uh... not sure I am understanding it correctly but what exactly was the reason that buried this project? (or least made it shrink to a one man effort)

Not enough money? Bad management and planning?

Finnish devilry.

 

[geno]

phosphorous
Well I am still working on it. We have hired a new producer who has been working with me for about two months, helping me to focus on the right things so the game can be completed at some point
I have this tendency to keep endlessly reworking all the parts of the game, never being satisfied or thinking that it would be good enough to be released, so this kind of support with the production seems helpful

 

[HoboForEternity]

10 microissues left?

 

[Haba]

10 microissues left?

The beatings will continue until the game is improves.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

Oh man this is such a roller-coaster. Every time I am ready to accept that End State is dead, Phosphorous shows up to make some vague declaration about how he is still working on it and release might happen at some point. And then there is only silence and the cycle continues on and on… the world sure is a cruel place.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Just the release the game already.

 

[ArchAngel]

phosphorous
Well I am still working on it. We have hired a new producer who has been working with me for about two months, helping me to focus on the right things so the game can be completed at some point
I have this tendency to keep endlessly reworking all the parts of the game, never being satisfied or thinking that it would be good enough to be released, so this kind of support with the production seems helpful

I know another game that needs such a producer.. khm.. Copper Dreams.. khm..

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Copper Dreams

Brother I got news for you.

 

[ArchAngel]

Copper Dreams

Brother I got news for you.

I know they changed their name, I just like this one more. I guess it just goes to prove my point :D

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Copper Dreams

Brother I got news for you.

I know they changed their name, I just like this one more.

Don't we all

 

[rusty_shackleford]

is this game out yet

 

[Darth Canoli]

I for one prefer Iron Dreams, maybe it's a reference to the novel but i can't help to think about it each time i read Copper dreams.

 

[Vityaz]

Is this guy still doing mobile game shit to pay his bills or something?

 

[Burning Bridges]

Oh man this is such a roller-coaster. Every time I am ready to accept that End State is dead, Phosphorous shows up to make some vague declaration about how he is still working on it and release might happen at some point. And then there is only silence and the cycle continues on and on… the world sure is a cruel place.

You sound like someone who would enjoy the magnificent development of Sui Generis. It's also still coming out, once certain people have sorted out their job life and treated their procrastination syndrome.

As to this one I am sure a certain percentage of it is complete and quite impressive and the guy has big plans, and then he decides to redo something because he can still do better. Entrusting him with your hopes on a fantastic, completed game is like making PETA run the meat industry.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

is this game out yet

 

[ArchAngel]

is this game out yet

Can you imagine what you did to people that thought your necro of the topic meant there is some real news? You are a mean person.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Well, they've reached their End State?


From Steam forums;

"Their Facebook page has not been updated since 2018. Their website no longer exists. There has not been an update in years and the devs have been non-existent for that long as well. It is time to accept the fact that this game is officially dead. Shame..."

 

[Modron]

It's alright we still got Momentum to look forward to right?

 

[Alienman]

It's alright we still got Momentum to look forward to right?

What's this?

 

[Modron]

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...ical-rpg-set-in-vietnam-war-cancelled.130116/
Was cleaved from this very thread and the game didn't even live as long as End State. Another thread you could bump Rusty.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

GUYZ Y U HAV 2 KEEP BUMPING?!?

As for Momentum, the vidya part is indeed dead, but the devs are working on a board game at least (I am still on their Discord) so maybe at least something good might come out of that.

They moved the setting from Laos to Vietnam and the game is now focussed more on regular army combat.