Fallout 4 Pre-Announcement Bullshit Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Tommy Wiseau]

I'm wondering how much of Obsidian's work on New Vegas will be retconned.

 

[DragoFireheart]

I'm wondering how much of Obsidian's work on New Vegas will be retconned.

I don't see why they would need to do anything with New Vegas. By leaving it alone, they open the doors for a New Vegas 2.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/12/and-heres-obsidians-idea-for-fallout-new-vegas-2/

Meanwhile, I also managed to pull Bethesda’s Todd Howard aside and get his two cents, which basically amounted to a reiteration of Urquhart’s sentiment. Nothing’s set in stone, but New Vegas was great, and having another go at it certainly makes an awful lot of sense. So, right then, fingers crossed. Extra radiation-borne ones too, if you’ve got ‘em.

Todd is a bit of a retard when it comes to designing games. But marketing/selling? Nah, he's well versed in that area.

 

[DalekFlay]

Pretty sure they'll keep the East/West coast split going. Even if they never get Obsidian to make another it makes sense for them to leave the West coast to history.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Todd is a bit of a retard when it comes to designing games. But marketing/selling? Nah, he's well versed in that area.

I still remember being told from a friend that Oblivion had this incredible AI that made NPCs almost lifelike, and that enemies actually learned from your combat and adjusted to match your playing.

Aside from the shit writing, voice acting, setting and lore, I still had to find out about their scripted AI and level scaling.

 

[Spectacle]

You guys do realize we are in for a new era of mods, right?

Because now every single modder will dub their terrible voices into their creations to maintain immersion. This is going to be awesome!

You already needed voice actors to do an "immersive" mod, Bethesda has had fully voiced NPCs since Oblivion...
What this changes is that nobody is likely to be able to make a quality quest mod with decent character interactions, since you're unlikely to be able to copy the main actor/actress' voice.

 

[Space Satan]

Voiced mods' main prolem is that very few people can use software like Adobe Audition to fix flaws of amateur voicing. When mod author is recording his over the top speech or can't figure correct intonations it can't be fixed, but voice flaws most of the time could be corrected to have decent quality.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Then make quests without voices. Fuck it.

 

[Broseph]

Then make quests without voices. Fuck it.

Make a quest about telepathic communication. Problem solved.

 

[Space Satan]

Old World Blues Dr. 8 and Star Wars games with subtitles for alien gibberish. Or cut phrases from existing speeches.

 

[Akratus]

Voiced mods' main prolem is that very few people can use software like Adobe Audition to fix flaws of amateur voicing.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adobe+audition+torrent

 

[Spectacle]

Old World Blues Dr. 8 and Star Wars games with subtitles for alien gibberish. Or cut phrases from existing speeches.

For a fallout mod you can make all the voiced NPCs be robots so that you can get away with using speech synthesis software

 

[Invictus]

I truly hope that some of New Vegas rubs off on Fallout 4, especialy the C&C, diversity of character and quest designs...but you never can tell with people like Todd where he might look at the critical success of NV and decide he knows best

 

[Excidium]

I hope there are good body hair mods.

 

[Tigranes]

I truly hope that some of New Vegas rubs off on Fallout 4, especialy the C&C, diversity of character and quest designs...but you never can tell with people like Todd where he might look at the critical success of NV and decide he knows best

Skyrim sold twice as much as FNV, so clearly Skyrim's design is twice as good as FNV, so the more like Skyrim and the less like FNV you make F4, the more copies it will sell

 

[sea]

Voiced mods' main prolem is that very few people can use software like Adobe Audition to fix flaws of amateur voicing. When mod author is recording his over the top speech or can't figure correct intonations it can't be fixed, but voice flaws most of the time could be corrected to have decent quality.

No professional uses Adobe Audition. Buggy, unsupported, likes to crash a lot, lacking features. Should be using a professional DAW like Pro Tools, REAPER, Sonar, Logic etc. instead.

Also, "studio magic" can never fix a bad performance or recording.

 

[hexer]

Skyrim sold twice as much as FNV, so clearly Skyrim's design is twice as good as FNV, so the more like Skyrim and the less like FNV you make F4, the more copies it will sell

I can see into the future! After 10 years of following such logical design decisions, Fallout and TES will merge into a single game except for different box art - just like those special magazine covers where you pick the one you like the most but the text inside is same. Such is the way of all things Bethesda.

 

[uaciaut]

I truly hope that some of New Vegas rubs off on Fallout 4, especialy the C&C, diversity of character and quest designs...but you never can tell with people like Todd where he might look at the critical success of NV and decide he knows best

I'd sooner hope they let Obsidian make a follow-up tbh, like how NV was to F3.

I truly hope that some of New Vegas rubs off on Fallout 4, especialy the C&C, diversity of character and quest designs...but you never can tell with people like Todd where he might look at the critical success of NV and decide he knows best

Skyrim sold twice as much as FNV, so clearly Skyrim's design is twice as good as FNV, so the more like Skyrim and the less like FNV you make F4, the more copies it will sell

On a serious not, FNV did manage to overtake F3 in sales as time went by? Not that the majority of that money goes to Obsidian, but still.

 

[Invictus]

I guess you are right Tigranes and I bet the reason they decided to stop DLCs for Skyrim is that they knew that Fallout 4 would be the killer app to sale more consoles; they way it is set up they will probably announce the game around May for release on next years hollidays, by then the consoles will have a year of sales with a pretty good installed user base

 

[tuluse]

On a serious not, FNV did manage to overtake F3 in sales as time went by? Not that the majority of that money goes to Obsidian, but still.

New Vegas did outsell Fallout 3, but sequels generally do so it's not surprising.

Obsidian doesn't get any money for sales. They got a set amount of money to make the game and they get a bonus if the metacritic score is 85 or higher.

 

[shihonage]

I can see into the future! After 10 years of following such logical design decisions, Fallout and TES will merge into a single game except for different box art - just like those special magazine covers where you pick the one you like the most but the text inside is same. Such is the way of all things Bethesda.

I predicted this earlier. The logical path for Bethesda is to join Fallout and Elder Scrolls universes into one. It already exists, they just need to license the world from that "Reign of Fire" movie, which portrayed a post-apocalyptic world with dragons.

 

[Ninjerk]

I can see into the future! After 10 years of following such logical design decisions, Fallout and TES will merge into a single game except for different box art - just like those special magazine covers where you pick the one you like the most but the text inside is same. Such is the way of all things Bethesda.

I predicted this earlier. The logical path for Bethesda is to join Fallout and Elder Scrolls universes into one. It already exists, they just need to license the world from that "Reign of Fire" movie, which portrayed a post-apocalyptic world with dragons.

Until Disney buys them, at which point the future alternate universes of the X-Men converge with the Capital Wasteland and the Avengers stumble into a time distortion and, together with the heroic and pure crusader order known as the Brotherhood of Steel, the entire world is saved and the postnuclear world is made clean and safe again.

 

[uaciaut]

On a serious not, FNV did manage to overtake F3 in sales as time went by? Not that the majority of that money goes to Obsidian, but still.

New Vegas did outsell Fallout 3, but sequels generally do so it's not surprising.

I don't think NV got as much publicity and hype going into it as F3 had, i'd actually argue that NV was a bit in F3's shadow due to marketing and other factors.

Obsidian doesn't get any money for sales. They got a set amount of money to make the game and they get a bonus if the metacritic score is 85 or higher.

Wow, they got shafted really hard. Metacritic is reading 84 atm, does that mean they didn't get the bonus either, despite making a clearly better game than F3?
Happen to know what the set ammount of money was btw?

 

[Taxnomore]

They didn't get the bonus because they scored one point too few. Exactly.

 

[Outlander]

Fallout and TES will merge into a single game

Didn't they already do that with Fallout 3?

 

[Frozen]

Didn't they already do that with Fallout 3?

Exactly
Only thing that separates TES from Fallout 3 is that in every TES game you start in a prison and in Fallout 3 you start in a Vault...oh, wait..