Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

[Seethe]

At this point, even when Obsidian or whatever Studio that Bethesda decided to make Spin-Off with, making a game that clearly superior in every possible way. (just like New Vegas to 3)

Majority of Bethestard will still prefer Fallout 4 for some fucking reason i can't possibly to understand.

They are that Fanatic, just like Religious Fanatism.

Honestly it scared me like a hell.

Bioware fans are much the same, at least those that bother to frequent reddit and the official forums.

The thing is, we have to realize this is a new generation, young adults or kids who never played any of the classic rpgs, who don't have a clue what good tb combat is, or what isometric 2d graphics bring to the table.

Things won't get better, in fact they will get much worse and the codex and like-minded enthusiast communities will fade away into obscurity with even the indie studies ignoring their pleas for incline.

Bioware fans are worse, believe it or not.

 

[MWaser]

Filthy MMO role-players

 

[an Administrator]

At this point, even when Obsidian or whatever Studio that Bethesda decided to make Spin-Off with, making a game that clearly superior in every possible way. (just like New Vegas to 3)

Majority of Bethestard will still prefer Fallout 4 for some fucking reason i can't possibly to understand.

They are that Fanatic, just like Religious Fanatism.

Honestly it scared me like a hell.

I remember someone told me that he didn't like Fallout New Vegas because it lacks "Todd Howard's spirit ".

 

[Zerginfestor]

Wow, I think someone should delete Seethe's post, that amount of stupid he linked is possibly a secret weapon to spread stupid across the RPG Codex. Already I can feel any remaining intelligence being slowly drained away by reading that Bioware cuck's post.


WHY SEETHE, WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO US. SOME SECRETS ARE BETTER LEFT FORGOTTEN!

 

[Excidium II]

At this point, even when Obsidian or whatever Studio that Bethesda decided to make Spin-Off with, making a game that clearly superior in every possible way. (just like New Vegas to 3)

Majority of Bethestard will still prefer Fallout 4 for some fucking reason i can't possibly to understand.

They are that Fanatic, just like Religious Fanatism.

Honestly it scared me like a hell.

Bioware fans are much the same, at least those that bother to frequent reddit and the official forums.

The thing is, we have to realize this is a new generation, young adults or kids who never played any of the classic rpgs, who don't have a clue what good tb combat is, or what isometric 2d graphics bring to the table.

Things won't get better, in fact they will get much worse and the codex and like-minded enthusiast communities will fade away into obscurity with even the indie studies ignoring their pleas for incline.

Bioware fans are worse, believe it or not.

Must feel truly heroic having a dead economy and taking 5 hours to find a dungeon group.

 

[MWaser]

At this point, even when Obsidian or whatever Studio that Bethesda decided to make Spin-Off with, making a game that clearly superior in every possible way. (just like New Vegas to 3)

Majority of Bethestard will still prefer Fallout 4 for some fucking reason i can't possibly to understand.

They are that Fanatic, just like Religious Fanatism.

Honestly it scared me like a hell.

Bioware fans are much the same, at least those that bother to frequent reddit and the official forums.

The thing is, we have to realize this is a new generation, young adults or kids who never played any of the classic rpgs, who don't have a clue what good tb combat is, or what isometric 2d graphics bring to the table.

Things won't get better, in fact they will get much worse and the codex and like-minded enthusiast communities will fade away into obscurity with even the indie studies ignoring their pleas for incline.

Bioware fans are worse, believe it or not.

Must feel truly heroic having a dead economy and taking 5 hours to find a dungeon group.

Just
Like
A
Real
Jedi

 

[markec]

https://archive.is/d4p4g

Let's Rank The Fallout Games, Best To Worst

Patricia Hernandez

In the 18 years since the Fallout franchise was introduced to the world, all of the games have been met with praise—which means that ranking them isn’t easy. It’s especially difficult to pit the games against each other when you consider that the post-nuclear franchise underwent a genre change.
Still, here we are. The Pecking Order god is not satisfied with our Grand Theft Auto, Pokemon, Final Fantasy and Halo rankings. It wants more. So we’ll feed the beast another feature, this one ranking the Fallout games, from best to ‘worst.’ Here’s some things you should keep in mind before we get started:
1) We’ll only be covering the main entries in the Fallout franchise; no spin-offs or DLC. Sorry, Tactics!
2) Remember, this is my personal opinion. You might disagree! You’re welcome to comment with your own rankings, if not debate my personal order—although naturally I’ll do my best to justify my choices.
Let’s do this.
This post originally appeared on 10/14, but has been updated to include Fallout 4.
1) Fallout 2

Okay, yes: Fallout 2 altered how I viewed America and its politics, and it gave me a safe space to explore my sexual identity. But objectively, I see it as the pinnacle of what Fallout has to offer: a zany, post-apocalyptic game with an incredible amount of choice, a smart critique of American ideals—all packaged in a more cerebral genre than the modern titles. (It’s a turn-based RPG.)
This is a game where you can lose countless hours to exploration...or you can beeline to the final boss within 30 minutes of starting the game. It’s a game where you can become a porn star or a made-man, just for funsies. Oh, and the conversations! What a joy, to speak to everyone you come across and learn a little more about this world. My favorite moment: talking to the AI responsible for ending the world in the great war. Fallout 2 has the sort of freedom and versatility that most modern games that brag about “choice,” and “consequences” can’t touch.
2) Fallout 1

When I initially ran this post over a year ago, Fallout 1 was dead last on the list. I actually replayed this game in 2015, and my opinion has changed!
Lets be absolutely clear here: the game has not aged gracefully. The UI is terrible. There’s no tactical side to the combat—it’s mostly praying to the RNG gods, even when you have the best gear available. And the graphics are so bad, it’s very easy to miss important stuff you need to interact with.
AND YET. What the first Fallout nails is the atmosphere. There are no frills here; the stuff about the 1950s, and the vault experiments, don’t make an appearance. It’s just a desolate, savage wasteland—and you can feel it the second you leave the vault. And the horrors hiding in that post-apocalypse, well...people have only heard rumors. Fallout 1 built the sort of mystery and intrigue that would only be possible in 1997, back when Deathclaws and Super Mutants were brand new to everyone. These enemies aren’t just fodder. They’re truly terrifying, and Fallout 1 makes you understand why.
Also, this was the game with The Master—one of the greatest villains in video game history. I will never forget the way Fallout 1 allows you to convince the big bad that he’s wrong. Superb.
3) Fallout 3

For a hardcore Fallout fan like myself, the fact 3 exists at all feels like a miracle—before Bethesda took charge, I assumed my beloved franchise was all but dead. I still remember how quickly I reserved the collector’s edition of Fallout 3. I still remember the excitement I felt waiting in line outside of a Gamestop, waiting for the midnight release. All I could think of was, ‘is this really happening? Is there really a new Fallout game?’
While I lament the genre change—there is no shortage of shooters out in the world, and XCOM proved that you can modernize a franchise without turning it into an FPS—Fallout 3 felt, well, right. Experiencing vault life first-hand in the introduction is one of the best openings in a game, ever. The Capital Wasteland is a great setting, especially for a game all about America. And the experience of actually walking through Fallout 3 in its full, open-world glory, is a joy. Many of my favorite characters in the franchise, like Moira Brown, are fromFallout 3. Fallout 3’s Tranquility Lane is the best level in the entire series. And the quests? Remember The Replicated Man? So good!
4) Fallout: New Vegas

Many consider New Vegas to be superior to Fallout 3, namely because of the writing. And sure, it’s good. At the same time, New Vegas’ entire schtick with the casinos and gambling has been done already! Fallout 2 had New Reno, remember?
I’ll quote Richard Cobbett on why New Vegas is disappointing when compared to New Reno, as he puts it well:
While I enjoyed Fallout: New Vegas, the actual town of New Vegas—to be more exact, the Strip—was a bitter disappointment. You spend a good third of the game waiting to get into this fabled gambling utopia, only for the gates to finally open and reveal four deserted casinos squatting amongst post-apocalyptic debris. No texture, no threat, no soul. Not so in New Reno.
Gaining control of the Vegas strip is cool in theory, but it feels inconsequential to the degree of control that you have over Reno in Fallout 2. Yeah, I appreciate that New Vegas is a more refined RPG experience than Fallout 3, and I love how much your character build/skills matter in this world. I’m definitely not saying it’s a bad game or anything. But, big picture, New Vegas didn’t manage to wow me to the same degree Fallout 3 did, nor did it explore particularly new territory.
5) Fallout 4

Here’s where things get particularly tricky for me. As it stands, Fallout 4 is my most-played game of 2015. I’ve spent hundreds of hours within the Commonwealth, and still feel like I’ve only seen a small percentage of whatFallout 4 has to offer. No matter where I go or what I’m doing, there’s always something interesting out in the distance, waiting to be discovered. I love companions like Nick Valentine and Curie. I love how Diamond City feels like a real place. Building settlements is also way more addicting than it has any right to be. And let’s not forget, this is is the first Fallout game with combat that isn’t garbage!
Fallout 4 is an excellent experience, as far as exploration and adventure are concerned. But compared to the other Fallout games, well....there’s something missing. Unlike the other games, role-playing and world-building isn’t as important in Fallout 4. Instead, Fallout 4 seems more concerned with keeping you busy shooting stuff and finding loot—which is fun, yes, but not really what Fallout games have traditionally been ‘about.’ I wrote at-length about this disappointment here:

Fallout 4 Is Not The Fallout Fans Fell In Love With
Last night, while wandering in Fallout 4, I heard something strange in the distance. A man on a…Read more
I don’t mind the new direction the series is taking, and I look forward to where Bethesda takes Fallout 4 next in the DLC. But, for the purposes of this list—which is entirely concerned with considering the Fallout games in relation to one another—Fallout 4 is in last place. Fortunately, the Fallout pedigree still means we’re dealing with a terrific game here.

 

[Infinitron]

How Accurately Does Fallout 4 Portray 50s Culture and Nuclear War?

 

[boot]

Bioware fans are much the same, at least those that bother to frequent reddit and the official forums.

The thing is, we have to realize this is a new generation, young adults or kids who never played any of the classic rpgs, who don't have a clue what good tb combat is, or what isometric 2d graphics bring to the table.

Things won't get better, in fact they will get much worse and the codex and like-minded enthusiast communities will fade away into obscurity with even the indie studies ignoring their pleas for incline.

You're absolutely right, those growing up now will be raised on crappy games and they probably won't have even heard of the things you mentioned. It's kind of disheartening, but as long as places like the Codex exist, I believe good games will find a way.


Stay vigilant against decline. If I'm ever infected, kill me hurt my butt. I'd do the same for you.

 

[Sranchammer]

We are all grognards, now.

 

[Athelas]

I'm one of the few who thinks FO3 is better than New Vegas. Don't get me wrong, I like both quite a lot. And I still have intentions of playing 2. New Vegas had some pretty great writing, but something about the quest options just felt lackluster to me. In theory having the different factions to fight or befriend was cool. Except the factions shouldn't have been so clearly defined as Good and Evil (you get good karma for killing powder gangers or legionnaires, and bad karma for killing the NCR). In FO3 the choice between brotherhood or enclave seemed more balanced—you could rationalize either one seeming like the good idea to support.

Beyond that, I find New Vegas to feel more like a caricature whereas FO3 tried presenting the world with more realism, which made it easier for me to get into.

 

[typical user]

Nah, things won't get worse because someone will always point towards those old games or rant how games turn more and more into movies with braindead elements treating player as mindless monkey. Dark Souls isn't great "old school" experience but there is no level scaling and game rapes you at the start. Because of that it has grown popular even when there is no huge progress in series development. I was around 5 years old when Fallout 2 launched, my cousin which was 4 years older showed it to me when I was 12 or something and I immediately sank in. It was around 2005 or so, year later Crysis released and I still play to that day games like Heroes 3 or Age of Empires 2 because they give fun. Witcher 3 is a masterpiece but frankly it becomes boring at some point because of repetetive combat and quests that are unique but don't require much of a thinking thanks to detective mode and streamline you almost all the time.

You praise isometric view but I think you do it because of nostalgia. I can imagine good games in 3d or Fallout as RPG-FPS but problem is most of the elements from isometric games aren't carried over to newest games. GTA V is good example how it falls short on GTA San Andreas even with 3 protagonists it still misses elements from 9 years older game, elements that people ask to be included in DLC or make mods for it.

It is same for RPGs, I miss games with no quest markers, questioning my intelligence or testing my memory and ability to read comprehensibly. I miss times when I had to poke every person and look into every hole to find secrets and fight for XP and equipment. Fallout 2 is "here you are, want to have fun, then go find it". Now games just treat you like 8 year old even with 18+ sticker. Bethesda's games are the most known for it. They avoid topics like prostitution or slavery when they bring it up then you just feel like you are watching cartoon

 

[Seethe]

https://archive.is/d4p4g

 

[pippin]

What's the point of discussing what some retards said on the internet? We all know what they think, we all know bethdrones are in damage control mode 24/7, etc. There's no point in reposting their shit, like those MrMattyPlays' videos. If you were looking in the right places, people are starting to play and appreciate NV more, and even picking up the older games. When they can't do things, they ask for help. If you're going to stick with teenagers' opinions, then you're going to live in a world of shit and rightfully so.

 

[Seethe]

What's the point of discussing what some retards said on the internet? We all know what they think, we all know bethdrones are in damage control mode 24/7, etc. There's no point in reposting their shit, like those MrMattyPlays' videos. If you were looking in the right places, people are starting to play and appreciate NV more, and even picking up the older games. When they can't do things, they ask for help. If you're going to stick with teenagers' opinions, then you're going to live in a world of shit and rightfully so.

Where's the fun in that?

 

[Kazuki]

What's the point of discussing what some retards said on the internet? We all know what they think, we all know bethdrones are in damage control mode 24/7, etc. There's no point in reposting their shit, like those MrMattyPlays' videos. If you were looking in the right places, people are starting to play and appreciate NV more, and even picking up the older games. When they can't do things, they ask for help. If you're going to stick with teenagers' opinions, then you're going to live in a world of shit and rightfully so.

Idk, it's sort like a guilty pleasure for me. Watching my mind slowly being fucked by Bethestard/Biodrones for their constant inanity and blind praise for their games.

 

[Lemming42]

If you were to swap 3 and NV around, Hernandez' list is fine. The lip service to Fallout 4 is grating, though, why does everyone feel the need to preface criticism of this shit by saying that they "really enjoyed" it and it's "still a fun game" before tearing it to pieces in a way that suggests they almost definitely didn't actually enjoy it?

 

[Jozoz]

Everyone is like "Don't get me wrong..." and "I still really enjoyed it" etc when criticizing Fallout 4.

It's just because the fanboys will rage. Too much raging and the author might fear he will lose credibility and respect.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

If you were to swap 3 and NV around, Hernandez' list is fine. The lip service to Fallout 4 is grating, though, why does everyone feel the need to preface criticism of this shit by saying that they "really enjoyed" it and it's "still a fun game" before tearing it to pieces in a way that suggests they almost definitely didn't actually enjoy it?

True that, its actually interesting that her favorite is 2.
Also she never spoke with the AI that caused the Great War, that was just at best a in-world theory for the war.

 

[Seethe]

:D

 

[pippin]

thank doge

 

[United Nations]

Dialogue options in are the worst I've seen from Bethesda yet.

Selecting the bottom (down arrow) option is always the best way to cut to the chase.

The non-green dialogue options are nothing more than a dumb game of chance.

The only character that has something interesting to say is Nick Valentine.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

http://i.imgur.com/XFuuuNL.gifv

HE'S BAAACK

 

[pippin]

At this point, silly mods are the only thing keeping Bethesda games alive.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

http://i.imgur.com/XFuuuNL.gifv

HE'S BAAACK

"SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!"


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