Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

[HotSnack]

The TLDR version: FO4 (and the trend with Bethesda's games in general) are less about being a roleplaying games and more like a box of toys. Just look at the Sims minigame they added. But hey, Will Wright made a career on that style of gameplay, and with EA somehow managaging to run The Sims and Simcity into the ground it was only a matter of time for another big studio to tap that market.

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

Potatoes really do take their postapoc larping serious. Just look at that scenario.

To post-soviets, FO4 is high fantasy.

 

[potatojohn]

That guy's conclusion that because the stats start at 1 at assignment this time that it means that "1 is average" is idiotic.

Overall I question if he actually played the game.

You're definitely not going to be more of a master of everything in Fallout 4 by the end than in any other Fallout game. By the time you're finished the game you'll have invested around 40 points into attributes or perks, out of a total of around 300.

And let's not even talk about New Vegas where you were the master of 99.9% of the game by level 10 by maxing Guns and Speech.

I don't understand how being able to invest into attribute points is "dumbing down" anything. Fuck, Arcanum has the same system as Fallout 4 and by reading Arcanum threads I've come away with the opinion that its system is impenetrably complex to the average Codexer.

Overall the criticism of F4's systems so far have only amounted to misconceptions or whining that it's not exactly the same as before, while being categorically unwilling to concede that the new system might be better in any way.

 

[Akratus]

You've finally reached the modern rpg standard, bethesda. Bravo.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

spookyout

 

[ArchAngel]

The Errant Signal guy is dead wrong. Gifted = super hero status. Also, game is still better than POE.

No.

Not.
Even.
Close.

 

[CrawlingDead]

That guy's conclusion that because the stats start at 1 at assignment this time that it means that "1 is average" is idiotic.

Overall I question if he actually played the game.

You're definitely not going to be more of a master of everything in Fallout 4 by the end than in any other Fallout game. By the time you're finished the game you'll have invested around 40 points into attributes or perks, out of a total of around 300.

And let's not even talk about New Vegas where you were the master of 99.9% of the game by level 10 by maxing Guns and Speech.

I don't understand how being able to invest into attribute points is "dumbing down" anything. Fuck, Arcanum has the same system as Fallout 4 and by reading Arcanum threads I've come away with the opinion that its system is impenetrably complex to the average Codexer.

Overall the criticism of F4's systems so far have only amounted to misconceptions or whining that it's not exactly the same as before, while being categorically unwilling to concede that the new system might be better in any way.

Joined: Jan 2, 2012

 

[Jick Magger]

Just did a quest for a family of pre-war socialites who've been made immortal via a magic potion made from the blood of their insane father who's been locked in Arkham for centuries because he's been possessed by an artifact he found during an archaeological dig in Arabia.




























This really happened.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Even taking into account the general quest quality of AAA rpgs, fallout 4 manages to establish a new low, fucking Bethesda.

 

[Zerginfestor]

-snip-

Even the rewards for the quest is derpy as fuck. You either get a gamma gun (which are shit), or you drink some sludge coming out of the insane man's vein.

 

[pippin]

Just did a quest for a family of pre-war socialites who've been made immortal via a magic potion made from the blood of their insane father who's been locked in Arkham for centuries because he's been possessed by an artifact he found during an archaeological dig in Arabia.

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

To post-soviets, FO4 is high fantasy.

What about the originals?

Low fantasy, duh.
And if you've been to Ukraine, you'd know that Stalker is a sim.

 

[baturinsky]

-snip-

Even the rewards for the quest is derpy as fuck. You either get a gamma gun (which are shit), or you drink some sludge coming out of the insane man's vein.

Real reward for this quest is Charisma bobblehead.

And what's so wrong with this quest's plot? Immortals and pop references are what F 2 and NV are filled to the brim too. Game's problem is not individual quests, but the fact hat they don't connect with each other.

 

[Zerginfestor]

Oh yes, another thing about Cabot's quest, one of the lines of Dialogue in the massive shitstorm of a quest shows possibly how Butthurt Bethesda is of Obsidian's New Vegas, something along the lines of stating an alien city is buried under the Mojave, making it possible of a DLC there where the entire regin is fucked over by AYY LMAOs, and ruining everyone's experience in NV.

 

[Gerrard]

> Get into Vault 81 by trading them 3 fusion cores they desperately need.
> Trader inside has 2 fusion cores for sale.

Sounds like you got played like a fiddle.

 

[baturinsky]

You can pass Cha check instead of paying with cores.

 

[Jick Magger]

-snip-

Even the rewards for the quest is derpy as fuck. You either get a gamma gun (which are shit), or you drink some sludge coming out of the insane man's vein.

And what's so wrong with this quest's plot? Immortals and pop references are what F 2 and NV are filled to the brim too. Game's problem is not individual quests, but the fact hat they don't connect with each other.

Those pop-culture references are the absolute worst part of Fallout 2, and you only get them if you take an optional trait in Fallout New Vegas, and are otherwise ignorable. Sure, there are characters that're functionally immortal in New Vegas, too, but as with a majority of stuff in the series, that's been accomplished through science, not fucking magic. Yes, there were moments like that in Fallout 2 as well, and guess what? They were the absolute worst parts of the game. Justifying shitty moments because prior games also had shitty moments like it does not make it any less shitty.

 

[Grotesque]

No my good friend that does not says anything about me

You're the equivalent of someone having a "blast" while listening the most obnoxious form of 'manele', but in your case Todd "The Wonder Boy" Howard is the one that reigns over you with his excretions.

 

[Akratus]

Holy shit I just saw a bit of good writing. That was like seeing a ghost or something.


(excuse the stupid meme ending to that video.)

And then he says: "I came up with your schematics. Wasn't easy, motor skills turned to shit."

Nice little conversation in a sea of ass.

 

[Immortal]

Holy shit I just saw a bit of good writing. That was like seeing a ghost or something.


(excuse the stupid meme ending to that video.)

And then he says: "I came up with your schematics. Wasn't easy, motor skills turned to shit."

Nice little conversation in a sea of ass.

It's not -that- good.
What kind of Noxer panders down to this shit. Have some self-respect.

 

[Akratus]

I didn't say it was that good.

 

[Sodafish]

You can pass Cha check instead of paying with cores.

That was my dump stat.

 

[Akratus]

It's like the only stat that has a use besides unlocking perks.

 

[baturinsky]

You can pass Cha check instead of paying with cores.

That was my dump stat.

You can easily get +10 Cha with clothes and Grape mentats

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Holy shit I just saw a bit of good writing. That was like seeing a ghost or something.


(excuse the stupid meme ending to that video.)

And then he says: "I came up with your schematics. Wasn't easy, motor skills turned to shit."

Nice little conversation in a sea of ass.

I like this guy already :D
Railroad is annoying in Fallout 4, just as that stalker jerk Victoria Watts was in FO3.
And we're supposed to see those self righteous gits as the good guys.